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Bible Party of the USA

 
 
Volunteer
 
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Reply Mon 30 Mar, 2009 02:34 am
@xexon,
xexon;64793 wrote:
Surely you have more to say than that.

If you're trying to inject another political party into government, you better be vocal.

Consider me a test audience. A tough one.

Otherwise, the turbulence later will disperse your atoms into the wind. I'm giving you a view into the future as you attempt to bring a religious based party into mainstream government.

Expect many to tell you what you can do with the Star of David and the Cross. You've been associated with what's wrong in the world now. The economy. The Iraq war. Government corruption. Patriot Act. War on terrorism.

I hope you're limber. There's going to be a long line forming behind me.

Armageddon is YOUR end, not mine. Your beliefs are corrupted. The fruit is rotten.

New Jerusalem is about people who no longer need belief.

x


Doing what is right and sufficient does not require responding to every Tom, Dick, and Harry who thinks their beliefs have more merit than yours in every instance in which they challenge your right to hold your opinions or act upon your values. It (doing what is right and sufficient) does require you to stand up for your values and work to ensure your values are not suppressed.

The fact that you oppose any organization of Christians or Jews or a combination of both (i.e., people who believe in God and God''s Word as recorded in the Bible) is not news. This has been the case since the beginning. It will be the case to the end, judgement day. The fact that you are so vociferous about it supports the historical record and the judgements that can be made about that record. It also shows the size of your ego when you think that you are being original.

You are not the audience. You are the heckler/sniper on the outside of the audience. By choosing the opinions you have, you put yourself on the outside of that audience. This is the case with the Bible also.

I pity you, but youir issues are not my problems to solve. They are yours. Nor does your choice obligate me to pay attention to your issues or modify my values to incorporate yours. I don't expect you to respect my views, you don't respect mine.

The point of this party is to organize people who do respect the values shown in its charter, which is based on the values detailed in God's Word, the Bible. The charter and the idea of this party are based on the recognition of the situation you have outlined, that there are evil people out there who say and show they will do anything to destroy western culture and its basis, the belief in and honoring of God's Word as recorded in the Bible.
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Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Mon 30 Mar, 2009 11:20 am
@xexon,
xexon;64778 wrote:
I'm an equalizer.



Does not every radical believe this much? All radicals think of themselves as robin-hoods. Terrorists think themselves heroes, but it is their deeds and the way that they plan to accomplish their goals that separates them from real heroes. Do not let ambition blind you and rob you of morality.
xexon
 
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Reply Mon 30 Mar, 2009 10:24 pm
@Fatal Freedoms,
Now you're taking me much too seriously.

I'm playing, with what other people believe in.

My only ambition is to play with you so you can see what is inside of you.




x
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jkelley56
 
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Reply Wed 1 Apr, 2009 02:35 pm
@Fatal Freedoms,
Fatal_Freedoms;64810 wrote:
Does not every radical believe this much? All radicals think of themselves as robin-hoods. Terrorists think themselves heroes, but it is their deeds and the way that they plan to accomplish their goals that separates them from real heroes. Do not let ambition blind you and rob you of morality.


I like it.

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Volunteer
 
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Reply Sun 12 Apr, 2009 06:28 am
@Volunteer,
Happy Easter!!!! He is Risen!!!!

John 3:1-21, “There was a man from the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews. This man came to Him at night and said, " Rabbi, we know that You have come from God as a teacher, for no one could perform these signs You do unless God were with him."
Jesus replied, " I assure you: Unless someone is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."
"But how can anyone be born when he is old?" Nicodemus asked Him. "Can he enter his mother's womb a second time and be born?"
Jesus answered, " I assure you: Unless someone is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. Whatever is born of the flesh is flesh, and whatever is born of the Spirit is spirit. Do not be amazed that I told you that you must be born again. The wind blows where it pleases, and you hear its sound, but you don't know where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit."
"How can these things be?" asked Nicodemus.
"Are you a teacher [e] of Israel and don't know these things?" Jesus replied. “I assure you: We speak what We know and We testify to what We have seen, but you do not accept Our testimony. If I have told you about things that happen on earth and you don't believe, how will you believe if I tell you about things of heaven? No one has ascended into heaven except the One who descended from heaven—the Son of Man. Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up, so that everyone who believes in Him will have eternal life.
"For God loved the world in this way: He gave His One and Only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send His Son into the world that He might judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him. Anyone who believes in Him is not judged, but anyone who does not believe is already judged, because he has not believed in the name of the One and Only Son of God.
"This, then, is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved darkness rather than the light because their deeds were evil. For everyone who practices wicked things hates the light and avoids it, so that his deeds may not be exposed. But anyone who lives by the truth comes to the light, so that his works may be shown to be accomplished by God."
John 19:5-20:18, “Then Jesus came out wearing the crown of thorns and the purple robe. Pilate said to them, "Here is the man!"
When the chief priests and the temple police saw Him, they shouted, "Crucify! Crucify!"
Pilate responded, "Take Him and crucify Him yourselves, for I find no grounds for charging Him."
"We have a law," the Jews replied to him, "and according to that law He must die, because He made Himself the Son of God."
When Pilate heard this statement, he was more afraid than ever. He went back into the headquarters and asked Jesus, "Where are You from?" But Jesus did not give him an answer. So Pilate said to Him, "You're not talking to me? Don't You know that I have the authority to release You and the authority to crucify You?"
"You would have no authority over Me at all," Jesus answered him, "if it hadn't been given you from above. This is why the one who handed Me over to you has the greater sin."
From that moment Pilate made every effort to release Him. But the Jews shouted, "If you release this man, you are not Caesar's friend. Anyone who makes himself a king opposes Caesar!"
When Pilate heard these words, he brought Jesus outside. He sat down on the judge's bench in a place called the Stone Pavement (but in Hebrew Gabbatha). It was the preparation day for the Passover, and it was about six in the morning. Then he told the Jews, "Here is your king!"
But they shouted, "Take Him away! Take Him away! Crucify Him!"
Pilate said to them, "Should I crucify your king?"
"We have no king but Caesar!" the chief priests answered.
So then, because of them, he handed Him over to be crucified.
Therefore they took Jesus away. Carrying His own cross, He went out to what is called Skull Place, which in Hebrew is called Golgotha. There they crucified Him and two others with Him, one on either side, with Jesus in the middle. Pilate also had a sign lettered and put on the cross. The inscription was:
JESUS THE NAZARENE
THE KING OF THE JEWS
Many of the Jews read this sign, because the place where Jesus was crucified was near the city, and it was written in Hebrew, Latin, and Greek. So the chief priests of the Jews said to Pilate, "Don't write, 'The King of the Jews, ' but that He said, 'I am the King of the Jews.' "
Pilate replied, "What I have written, I have written."
When the soldiers crucified Jesus, they took His clothes and divided them into four parts, a part for each soldier. They also took the tunic, which was seamless, woven in one piece from the top. So they said to one another, "Let's not tear it, but toss for it, to see who gets it." [They did this] to fulfill the Scripture that says: They divided My clothes among themselves, and they cast lots for My clothing. And this is what the soldiers did.
Standing by the cross of Jesus were His mother, His mother's sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene. When Jesus saw His mother and the disciple He loved standing there, He said to His mother, " Woman, here is your son." Then He said to the disciple, "Here is your mother." And from that hour the disciple took her into his home.
After this, when Jesus knew that everything was now accomplished that the Scripture might be fulfilled, He said, "I'm thirsty!" A jar full of sour wine was sitting there; so they fixed a sponge full of sour wine on hyssop and held it up to His mouth.
When Jesus had received the sour wine, He said, "It is finished!" Then bowing His head, He gave up His spirit.
Since it was the preparation day, the Jews did not want the bodies to remain on the cross on the Sabbath (for that Sabbath was a special] day). They requested that Pilate have the men's legs broken and that [their bodies] be taken away. So the soldiers came and broke the legs of the first man and of the other one who had been crucified with Him. When they came to Jesus, they did not break His legs since they saw that He was already dead. But one of the soldiers pierced His side with a spear, and at once blood and water came out. He who saw this has testified that you also may believe. His testimony is true, and he knows he is telling the truth. For these things happened so that the Scripture would be fulfilled: Not one of His bones will be broken. Also, another Scripture says: They will look at the One they pierced.
After this, Joseph of Arimathea, who was a disciple of Jesus—but secretly because of his fear of the Jews—asked Pilate that he might remove Jesus' body. Pilate gave him permission, so he came and took His body away. Nicodemus (who had previously come to Him at night) also came, bringing a mixture of about 75 pounds of myrrh and aloes. Then they took Jesus' body and wrapped it in linen cloths with the aromatic spices, according to the burial custom of the Jews. There was a garden in the place where He was crucified. A new tomb was in the garden; no one had yet been placed in it. They place Jesus there because of the Jewish preparation and since the tomb was nearby.
On the first day of the week Mary Magdalene came to the tomb early, while it was still dark. She saw that the stone had been removed from the tomb. So she ran to Simon Peter and to the other disciple, the one Jesus loved, and said to them, "They have taken the Lord out of the tomb, and we don't know where they have put Him!"
At that, Peter and the other disciple went out, heading for the tomb. The two were running together, but the other disciple outran Peter and got to the tomb first. Stooping down, he saw the linen cloths lying there, yet he did not go in. Then, following him, Simon Peter came also. He entered the tomb and saw the linen cloths lying there. The wrapping that had been on His head was not lying with the linen cloths but was folded up in a separate place by itself. The other disciple, who had reached the tomb first, then entered the tomb, saw, and believed. For they still did not understand the Scripture that He must rise from the dead. Then the disciples went home again.
But Mary stood outside facing the tomb, crying. As she was crying, she stooped to look into the tomb. She saw two angels in white sitting there, one at the head and one at the feet, where Jesus' body had been lying. They said to her, " Woman, why are you crying?"
"Because they've taken away my Lord," she told them, "and I don't know where they've put Him." Having said this, she turned around and saw Jesus standing there, though she did not know it was Jesus.
"Woman," Jesus said to her, "why are you crying? Who is it you are looking for?"
Supposing He was the gardener, she replied, "Sir, if you've removed Him, tell me where you've put Him, and I will take Him away."
Jesus said, "Mary."
Turning around, she said to Him in Hebrew, "Rabbouni!" —which means "Teacher."
"Don't cling to Me," Jesus told her, "for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to My brothers and tell them that I am ascending to My Father and your Father—to My God and your God."
Mary Magdalene went and announced to the disciples, "I have seen the Lord!" And she told them what He had said to her.”
xexon
 
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Reply Sun 12 Apr, 2009 06:44 am
@Volunteer,
Jews and Christians don't understand the nature of being reborn.

The proof is in the state of your respective religions and the people who come out the other end. Blind.

I don't want your unstable beliefs infesting secular government.

I object to the shallowness of your followers, the dogma they follow, and the political power they wield. Bad combination.

You people are dangerous.



x
Volunteer
 
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Reply Sun 12 Apr, 2009 07:05 am
@xexon,
xexon;64997 wrote:
Jews and Christians don't understand the nature of being reborn.

The proof is in the state of your respective religions and the people who come out the other end. Blind.

I don't want your unstable beliefs infesting secular government.

I object to the shallowness of your followers, the dogma they follow, and the political power they wield. Bad combination.

You people are dangerous.

x


And you're a bigoted blowhard on the left coast who makes up his own god as himself then is conflicted about the nature of humanity and its relationship with God and the universe.

The political power wielded by people who claim to be Christians or Jews that you are bothered by is given by Christians, Jews, and others who accept Judeo-Christian morals. Of the people, for the people, by the people. We're made in the image of God, by God. Everytime we have turned government of our societies from God, the result is corruption, destruction, and death (physical and spiritual). If you throw this away in exchange for a self-delusion, then you have a right to be bitter. But the bitterness is misdirected. Look within.
xexon
 
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Reply Sun 12 Apr, 2009 08:58 am
@Volunteer,
Your beliefs are responsible for more deaths in the world than natural diseases anymore.

Has nothing to do with governments turning to or from God.

It's YOU. The believer.

Based on what you believe in, and those who want nothing to do with you or your God. THAT'S the problem.

Stop using supernatural beings to hide behind. This is a human problem with human origins and a human fix.

Religion has outlived it's welcome. People are growing tired of it. Conservative Christians, i.e. zionist Christians are now identified with Bush and the neocons and warmongering in the Middle East on behalf of Israel.

You're tainted. And identifing with the babykillers in Israel is only going to taint you further.





x
Volunteer
 
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Reply Sun 12 Apr, 2009 12:34 pm
@xexon,
xexon;65001 wrote:
Your beliefs are responsible for more deaths in the world than natural diseases anymore.

Has nothing to do with governments turning to or from God.

It's YOU. The believer.

Based on what you believe in, and those who want nothing to do with you or your God. THAT'S the problem.

Stop using supernatural beings to hide behind. This is a human problem with human origins and a human fix.

Religion has outlived it's welcome. People are growing tired of it. Conservative Christians, i.e. zionist Christians are now identified with Bush and the neocons and warmongering in the Middle East on behalf of Israel.

You're tainted. And identifing with the babykillers in Israel is only going to taint you further.
x
but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD
xexon
 
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Reply Sun 12 Apr, 2009 02:15 pm
@Volunteer,
You seem to think I lack knowledge on this subject. If I'm harsh on Israel, I have well founded reasons to be. Like their abominable human rights record and the murder of over 400 Palestinian children.

I've chased after zionism for over 30 years. I've watched it go from people in the shadows during the Nixon era to today's modern daywalkers. People actually admit to it now. People in government like Pelosi and Biden are self confessed zionists.

This infection is spreading. Pro Israel hawks now dominate the federal government on many levels.

The only reason it continues is because people aren't being told the truth. If they were, there would be a march on Washington tomorrow.

Take a look at this kid. He's being raised to hate.
Settler Child on Flickr - Photo Sharing!

Have some more links. I want you to see what your precious Israel is up to.

Truth: Exposing Israeli Apartheid

ZionismExplained.org/Zionism: History and Effects

B'Tselem - Photo Archive



x
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xexon
 
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Reply Sun 12 Apr, 2009 02:24 pm
@Volunteer,
And what do some Israeli Jews think of the US and it's 60 years of generosity?

Here's a nice Jewish boy of zionist upbringing. Let him answer.

YouTube - Jew: We killed Jesus, we're proud of it

Let's show that one on American TV, shall we?




x
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Volunteer
 
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Reply Wed 10 Jun, 2009 08:32 am
@Volunteer,
Two others—criminals—were also led away to be executed with Him. When they arrived at the place called The Skull, they crucified Him there, along with the criminals, one on the right and one on the left. Then Jesus said, "Father, forgive them, because they do not know what they are doing." And they divided His clothes and cast lots.

The people stood watching, and even the leaders kept scoffing: "He saved others; let Him save Himself if this is God's Messiah, the Chosen One!" The soldiers also mocked Him. They came offering Him sour wine and said, "If You are the King of the Jews, save Yourself!"

An inscription was above Him:
THIS IS
THE KING OF THE JEWS

Then one of the criminals hanging there began to yell insults at Him: "Aren't You the Messiah? Save Yourself and us!"

But the other answered, rebuking him: "Don't you even fear God, since you are undergoing the same punishment? We are punished justly, because we're getting back what we deserve for the things we did, but this man has done nothing wrong." Then he said, "Jesus, remember me when You come into Your kingdom!"

And He said to him, " I assure you: Today you will be with Me in paradise."

It was now about noon, and darkness came over the whole land until three, because the sun's light failed. The curtain of the sanctuary was split down the middle. And Jesus called out with a loud voice, "Father, into Your hands I entrust My spirit." Saying this, He breathed His last.

When the centurion saw what happened, he began to glorify God, saying, "This man really was righteous!" All the crowds that had gathered for this spectacle, when they saw what had taken place, went home, striking their chests. But all who knew Him, including the women who had followed Him from Galilee, stood at a distance, watching these things.
Numpty
 
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Reply Wed 10 Jun, 2009 08:47 am
@Volunteer,
Volunteer;65500 wrote:
"Father, forgive them, because they do not know what they are doing." And they divided His clothes and cast lots.

The people stood watching, and even the leaders kept scoffing: "He saved others; let Him save Himself if this is God's Messiah, the Chosen One!" The soldiers also mocked Him. They came offering Him sour wine and said, "If You are the King of the Jews, save Yourself!"

An inscription was above Him:
THIS IS
THE KING OF THE JEWS

Then one of the criminals hanging there began to yell insults at Him: "Aren't You the Messiah? Save Yourself and us!"

But the other answered, rebuking him: "Don't you even fear God, since you are undergoing the same punishment? We are punished justly, because we're getting back what we deserve for the things we did, but this man has done nothing wrong." Then he said, "Jesus, remember me when You come into Your kingdom!"

And He said to him, " I assure you: Today you will be with Me in paradise."

It was now about noon, and darkness came over the whole land until three, because the sun's light failed. The curtain of the sanctuary was split down the middle. And Jesus called out with a loud voice, "Father, into Your hands I entrust My spirit." Saying this, He breathed His last.

When the centurion saw what happened, he began to glorify God, saying, "This man really was righteous!" All the crowds that had gathered for this spectacle, when they saw what had taken place, went home, striking their chests. But all who knew Him, including the women who had followed Him from Galilee, stood at a distance, watching these things.


Your point being?
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ThoughtCriminal
 
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Reply Wed 10 Jun, 2009 08:47 am
@Volunteer,
Volunteer;65500 wrote:
"Father, forgive them, because they do not know what they are doing." And they divided His clothes and cast lots.

The people stood watching, and even the leaders kept scoffing: "He saved others; let Him save Himself if this is God's Messiah, the Chosen One!" The soldiers also mocked Him. They came offering Him sour wine and said, "If You are the King of the Jews, save Yourself!"

An inscription was above Him:
THIS IS
THE KING OF THE JEWS

Then one of the criminals hanging there began to yell insults at Him: "Aren't You the Messiah? Save Yourself and us!"

But the other answered, rebuking him: "Don't you even fear God, since you are undergoing the same punishment? We are punished justly, because we're getting back what we deserve for the things we did, but this man has done nothing wrong." Then he said, "Jesus, remember me when You come into Your kingdom!"

And He said to him, " I assure you: Today you will be with Me in paradise."

It was now about noon, and darkness came over the whole land until three, because the sun's light failed. The curtain of the sanctuary was split down the middle. And Jesus called out with a loud voice, "Father, into Your hands I entrust My spirit." Saying this, He breathed His last.

When the centurion saw what happened, he began to glorify God, saying, "This man really was righteous!" All the crowds that had gathered for this spectacle, when they saw what had taken place, went home, striking their chests. But all who knew Him, including the women who had followed Him from Galilee, stood at a distance, watching these things.


And?

TC
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