Bible Party of the USA

Golly. I was going to say the same to you.

You are on the wrong side. Politically AND spiritually.

Look at the poor state of politics AND religion in this country. You folks already had your chance and blew it. People are growing weary of the trouble you've caused in the world because of God and country.

Interest in organized religion is at an all time low. Interest in politics fares no better.

Because the leaderships of both have become corrupted and now represent corruption. That's is how people see you, and it's long overdue.

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Are you claiming that the Palestinians don't speak out against the extremists?

1) There are some Palestinians, and some Muslims, who do speak out against it.

3) It's true that Palestinians and Muslims are fixated on what Israeli does wrong, and they don't pay enough attention to their own wrongdoings.

4) A majority of Palestinians support suicide bombings. However, an overwhelming majority also support an end to suicide bombings if a fair peace deal is negotiated. So, simply telling them not to be violent has no chance of working. But a peace deal that addresses both sides' legitimate grievances does. And i think the same is probably true in reverse. Most Israelis would probably be willing to make concessions if they thought it would end the terrorism.

Yet, you portray the situation as if your side is right and the other side is wrong, and the other side isn't willing to make any concessions. You portray it as if it's black and white, but all i've seen you base these beliefs on are generalizations, simplifications, and bias. Thus, I think you're probably just a cheerleader for the side you relate to the most (which in this case happens to be the modern, Democratic Judeo Christian side).

People like you are a hindrance to peace. I approach the issue as a pragmatist; not as a cheerleader.

No, but the noise of their speech is not deafening.

What side should one be on spiritually? What side politically?

Are you advocating anarchy or Sharia?

Perhaps you do not fully understand the issue,

By merely speaking out against them, you've become a target, your life then is at risk. Remember the outrage with the Muhammad picture? Remember the outrage from the pope's speech? Do you remember? Try to live amongst these people. You espouse many things volunteer, lets us see how loudly you espouse them when your life is on the line.

You don't need one religion or another to be a good person.

Just be a good person.

If an uneducated, dirt poor African Bushman can invite you into his home, why can't an educated white person who professes belief in the ideas of a book, do the same?

Religion is not required. Only compassion is required.

Complex religions should not be built on such a simple thing.

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Duh? You make my point.

Volunteer, you're making a false dichotemy. You're implying that we have to choose between supporting Israel's actions 100% or supporting the Palestinians actions 100%. We don't. You're also implying that all Palestinians (and Muslims in general) speak with one voice. They don't. You imply that they're unwilling to accept any compromise and that they want global conquest. The vast majority do not. Not only are these claims false. They are laughable.

Semantics don't scare me.

Neither do the racist views of certain religions who see themselves as somehow "chosen" above the rest of the people.

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Until that has been accomplished, such people should avoid positions of leadership, as you will just spread your own beliefs around instead of encouraging people to move beyond belief into the realm of direct perception.

Therefore, a secular government is the only one that can treat all people as equals.

Your idea of government would brand people. And force religious ideas upon them they may disagree with.
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Jews are chosen by God. However, prior to the coming of Jesus the Christ anyone could become a Jew and be justified by faith.

Christians are not chosen above anyone. Not one of us is pure or clean in and of themselves. Anyone can choose to believe the Word of God. God is not willing that anyone should be condemned by their sin. He does insist on our free will and we can choose to believe or not to believe in His Word. This is not semantics. It is fact.

What is the role of government? A secular government does not treat people as equals any more than any other government. It is not the government that treats people in any fashion, it is the people who make up the government who treat other people in the fashion displayed by their government.

What makes your ideas better than mine?

I disagree with many of your ideas. I disagree with many of the ideas of the people now in office in the House and Senate. Does that mean they should be barred from office as you suggest people who hold the beliefs of the Bible Party of the USA should? I believe people who disagree with action taken by other people in their name have a responsibility to stand up and participate.

If we took your premise and said a person who claims to be a Christian was a god as you claim to be, then why would their values be somehow less worthy than yours?

The bottom line is that they are not. What you are concerned about is that yours is a minority view and that people who hold your view have a proclivity to avoid public service. Therefore you don't want people who strongly believe something else to become active in the public policy debate and put that belief into action.

Balderdash. God chose nobody because God does not judge. Only men do.

Let's examine a few facts.

The bible was written by Jews. I suppose that out of this written work, it was mere chance that Jews were listed as the chosen people above all others on earth?

Couldn't be a little literary licence at work, could it? Write yourself into history as the "chosen". It worked for a long time too. Now the plating has begun to wear off the myth. Turn out Jews are just as crappy as everybody else.

New testament. Also written by Jews. Once again, Jews to the rescue of mankind. After 2000 years, that top is beginning to loose it's spin as well.

Zionism is the new God, and certain Jews within government are preparing to make you bow to them. They've grown tired of waiting for God. These radicals are taking things into their own hands, because in Judaism, the Messiah is a mortal man. A leader. The danger is this leader is a zionist, not an enlightened soul.

Zionism is attempting to fulfill the prophcies of the Jewish faithful to bring them into the family, thereby cementing their hold on Judaism in both dogma and action.

Your party is not helping the situation.

You're contributing to the approaching abomination that your own scriptures warn you of.

That's why religion is dying. That's why it should.
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You and any other person is welcome to have input in the system. But we can never allow any one religion to have a majority rule. It has to be balanced.

Because those beliefs will eventually become law that all must live under. That would likely conflict with the religious beliefs of others. It would certainly inflame people like me who don't want to live under that kind of law.

This isn't a Christian country anymore. At least not the white bread/white skinned America it tends to represent. America is now going in the other direction, away from organized religion.

I'm helping.

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Let me put it to you more directly.

Zionism is going down. Israel with it.

If you have any connection to it, or it's intrusion into the federal government, you'll be taken out with the rest of the trash when the time comes.

People are tired of the religious influence in government.

If you think I'm alone, think again.

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