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@Fatal Freedoms,

Fatal_Freedoms;62165 wrote:

Black is beautiful.

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The founding fathers did not invent the dating system.

And they didn't have to use it but they did.

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@Fatal Freedoms,

Fatal_Freedoms;62165 wrote:

TRANSLATION: I know whats best for people more than they know whats best for themselves!

No. If non-Christians can impose their views on society through legislation, then we have the same liberty.

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@Fatal Freedoms,

Fatal_Freedoms;62165 wrote:

I am perfectly aware of this, why do you insult my intelligence so?

If you are aware of this, why do you use it as an example?

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@Fatal Freedoms,

Fatal_Freedoms;62165 wrote:

No, hold your religion, embrace your religion, but do not impose it on others, do not make laws based solely on religious doctrine. If you do make laws based on religious doctrine support it with facts that everybody can agree on.

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@Volunteer,

Volunteer;62256 wrote:

can you not does this by entangling politics?

Jefferson said that we should have a high wall of separation between church and state.

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@Volunteer,

Volunteer;62255 wrote:

If you are aware of this, why do you use it as an example?

Because you brought it up! :rollinglaugh:

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@Volunteer,

Volunteer;62254 wrote:

No. If non-Christians can impose their views on society through legislation, then we have the same liberty.

Depends on what views they are. I do not think our currency should read "In gods we trust" or "In no god we trust" so why would i think it was okay to put "In god we trust".

Why would you fight imposing with imposing? You are a christian, did Jesus not say to turn the other cheek?

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@Fatal Freedoms,

Fatal_Freedoms;62156 wrote:

As is done of all religions, you will not see a statue of Buddha in any place of government. The idea is for a religion neutral government, only once we achieve total neutrality in government can we truly have justice and equality.

There is no neutral government. The only place this can happen is in an academic exercise. Academic exercises are not the real world. If you are arguing from the view that there is a possibility of a neutral government, then you are operating from fantasy.

There can be true justice and equality if people treated each other by the golden rule and honored God's Word.

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@Fatal Freedoms,

Fatal_Freedoms;62259 wrote:

Depends on what views they are. I do not think our currency should read "In gods we trust" or "In no god we trust" so why would i think it was okay to put "In god we trust".

Why would you fight imposing with imposing? You are a christian, did Jesus not say to turn the other cheek?

Jesus also kicked the money changers out of His Father's house.

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@Fatal Freedoms,

Fatal_Freedoms;62257 wrote:

can you not does this by entangling politics?

Jefferson said that we should have a high wall of separation between church and state.

Jefferson put his pants on like any other man. His opinion was no better than anyone else's.

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@Volunteer,

Volunteer;62263 wrote:

Jefferson put his pants on like any other man. [SIZE="7"]His opinion was no better than anyone else's.[/SIZE]

You will eat those words.

Do you have the audacity to say such a thing? Do you have the audacity to sit there and tell me that the opinion of one of the key founder fathers, who is directly responsible for the creation and governance of this nation, does not matter? Can you tell me the opinion of a founding father is not important? Do you tell me the opinion which directly influenced the principals running this nation are equal to the opinion's of anyone else?

You are no countryman of mine!:no:

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@Volunteer,

Volunteer;62262 wrote:

Jesus also kicked the money changers out of His Father's house.

Did he then set up a money changing table himself?

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@Volunteer,

Volunteer;62261 wrote:

There is no neutral government. The only place this can happen is in an academic exercise. Academic exercises are not the real world. If you are arguing from the view that there is a possibility of a neutral government, then you are operating from fantasy.

There can be true justice and equality if people treated each other by the golden rule and honored God's Word.

Because perfection is impossibly should we then give up before we try? Don't be foolish!

Had Lincoln said that racial equality was impossible, then should he have never freed the slaves? :dunno:

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@Fatal Freedoms,

Fatal_Freedoms;62264 wrote:

You will eat those words.

Do you have the audacity to say such a thing? Do you have the audacity to sit there and tell me that the opinion of one of the key founder fathers, who is directly responsible for the creation and governance of this nation, does not matter? Can you tell me the opinion of a founding father is not important? Do you tell me the opinion which directly influenced the principals running this nation are equal to the opinion's of anyone else?

You are no countryman of mine!:no:

Duh, Yes! All men are created equal. There may be a difference in the fact from which they reason or a difference in their world-view, but one's opinion is no better than any other's.

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@Fatal Freedoms,

Fatal_Freedoms;62265 wrote:

Did he then set up a money changing table himself?

Short answer: No.

Did you intend to imply something with that question?

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@Fatal Freedoms,

Fatal_Freedoms;62266 wrote:

Because perfection is impossibly [sp] should we then give up before we try? Don't be foolish!

Had Lincoln said that racial equality was impossible, then should he have never freed the slaves? :dunno:

What did you mean when you talked about a neutral government?

You are mixing these issues, racial equality is not the same issue as neutral government. I said there is no such thing as a neutral government. No human being is or can be neutral. They must act according to their values and world-view. They can be cowardly about expressing their values, but they always act according to their values.

Racial equality is not an ideal, it is the natural (God given) order of things. Witness our Declaration of Independence.

Sin causes people to think they were better than other people. Sin, short-sighted self-interest, and avarice caused people to perpetuate and institutionalize racisim and slavery in the first thirteen United States of America.

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@Volunteer,

Volunteer;62273 wrote:

Short answer: No.

Did you intend to imply something with that question?

jesus did not fight money changing with money changing

why should you fight imposing with imposing?

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@Volunteer,

Volunteer;62272 wrote:

Duh, Yes! All men are created equal. There may be a difference in the fact from which they reason or a difference in their world-view, but one's opinion is no better than any other's.

So an economist's view on the future state of the economy is no better than the opinion of a 7 yr. old? :rollinglaugh:

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@Fatal Freedoms,

Fatal_Freedoms;62278 wrote:

jesus did not fight money changing with money changing

why should you fight imposing with imposing?

What exactly are you afraid of?

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@Fatal Freedoms,

Fatal_Freedoms;62279 wrote:

So an economist's view on the future state of the economy is no better than the opinion of a 7 yr. old? :rollinglaugh:

We are talking about adults. Are you seven years old? If not, why would you attempt to draw such a parallel?

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