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Brian764
 
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Reply Mon 19 Nov, 2007 06:30 pm
@Volunteer,
Volunteer;46058 wrote:
Do you know how to read?

If you do, then you can read and interpret for yourself. I suggest you do try to read the Bible. Then read the other "sacred texts" and see which stacks up against your gut.



Our own personal interpretation is not how we should approach that scriptures

2 Peter 1:20-21 (KJV)
20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

God reviles the truth of the scriptures to His people

1 Corinthians 2:9-10 (KJV)
9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
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Volunteer
 
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Reply Mon 19 Nov, 2007 06:30 pm
@Fatal Freedoms,
Fatal_Freedoms;45917 wrote:
:cool:


Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. If you seek Him you shall find Him.
Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Mon 19 Nov, 2007 06:33 pm
@Volunteer,
Volunteer;46064 wrote:
A lot you know. There are many people throughout the world who believe in the religions you maintain are dead. I've met them. There is actually a resurgence of those religions in the countries of their origin and in offshoots in other countries. You need to get out more, go to strange and interesting places and meet the people.


But you said you've met these people, which i am quite certain that you have not!
Volunteer
 
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Reply Mon 19 Nov, 2007 06:34 pm
@Fatal Freedoms,
Fatal_Freedoms;45918 wrote:
because some freedoms like freedom of speech are easy to promote, untill your life is on the line....

many people were afraid to post comics criticizing Muhammad and his followers.....that is freedom of the press and freedom of speech are you gonna let fear prevent you from expressing your right to free speech? I sure as hell won't! It's fear that gives them their power!

What is a terrorist who cannot encite terror in his victims?
Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Mon 19 Nov, 2007 06:37 pm
@Volunteer,
Volunteer;46072 wrote:


why would i have meant that, i'm an atheist!?
Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Mon 19 Nov, 2007 06:40 pm
@Volunteer,
Volunteer;46066 wrote:
Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. If you seek Him you shall find Him.


...and this is what believers usually resort to, oppinion.

i am not here to change you beliefs, nothing i say will change your mind, but remember this....your belief is based on faith and mine is based on logic, and we shall keep it at that!
Volunteer
 
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Reply Wed 21 Nov, 2007 03:49 pm
@Fatal Freedoms,
Fatal_Freedoms;46069 wrote:
But you said you've met these people, which i am quite certain that you have not!


No, you took a general statement I made and made it specific to the items you wished. I said I had interacted with people from those cultures and met or interacted with people who believe in some of those religions.
Volunteer
 
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Reply Wed 21 Nov, 2007 03:50 pm
@Fatal Freedoms,
Fatal_Freedoms;46074 wrote:
why would i have meant that, i'm an atheist!?


Subconscious talking.
Volunteer
 
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Reply Wed 21 Nov, 2007 04:00 pm
@Fatal Freedoms,
Fatal_Freedoms;46075 wrote:
...and this is what believers usually resort to, oppinion.

i am not here to change you beliefs, nothing i say will change your mind, but remember this....your belief is based on faith and mine is based on logic, and we shall keep it at that!


What I said is not just my opinion. It is what the Word of God says about finding Him.

My belief is based on trust in God and an understanding of the world and the Word of God.

My understanding is based on 50 years of learning and experience on four continents in every type of climatic condition and geographic locale on earth. The experience includes interacting with inhabitants in the countries on those continents or sub-continents and the knowledge and understanding gained from those interactions.

Whether or not you believe this doesn't matter to me. It is the truth and the truth doesn't change to suit a conversation.
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Wed 21 Nov, 2007 04:14 pm
@Fatal Freedoms,
Fatal_Freedoms;46075 wrote:
...and this is what believers usually resort to, oppinion.

i am not here to change you beliefs, nothing i say will change your mind, but remember this....your belief is based on faith and mine is based on logic, and we shall keep it at that!


Logic? Ha. Keep'm coming. I feel like laughing my ass off right now. :rollinglaugh:
Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Wed 21 Nov, 2007 06:00 pm
@Volunteer,
Volunteer;46414 wrote:
No, you took a general statement I made and made it specific to the items you wished. I said I had interacted with people from those cultures and met or interacted with people who believe in some of those religions.


i first stated the gods and you said that you have met people who believed in those gods, so i did NOT make specific to what i was talking about....

You still haven't met anybody who believes in Thor or Zeus, as you said you have!
Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Wed 21 Nov, 2007 06:01 pm
@Volunteer,
Volunteer;46415 wrote:
Subconscious talking.


Your subconsious is telling you there is no god, why is it that you are afraid of death if heaven awaits you?
Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Wed 21 Nov, 2007 06:06 pm
@Volunteer,
Volunteer;46416 wrote:

My belief is based on trust in God and an understanding of the world and the Word of God.



No, your faith is your trust of the men who wrote the bible....The simple truth is that you can't justify your trust of the bible without using a circular argument or personal rhetoric!
Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Wed 21 Nov, 2007 06:09 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;46419 wrote:
Logic? Ha. Keep'm coming. I feel like laughing my ass off right now. :rollinglaugh:


and belief in an invisible man in the sky is logical? and belief in a talking snake is logical? Belief in a magical tree is logical? belief of jewish carpenter with magic powers is logical?

sorry pinochet but you're gonna have to do better than that! Very Happy
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Wed 21 Nov, 2007 07:02 pm
@Volunteer,
Stump'm, Volly. Stump'm hard.:banana::afro::afro::afro::banana:
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Wed 21 Nov, 2007 07:04 pm
@Fatal Freedoms,
Fatal_Freedoms;46445 wrote:
and belief in an invisible man in the sky is logical? and belief in a talking snake is logical? Belief in a magical tree is logical? belief of jewish carpenter with magic powers is logical?

sorry pinochet but you're gonna have to do better than that! Very Happy


:rollinglaugh:LaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughing:rollinglaugh:

:hititsmiley::leghumper::leghumper::leghumper::leghumper::leghumper::hititsmiley:
Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Wed 21 Nov, 2007 07:10 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;46447 wrote:
:rollinglaugh:LaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughing:rollinglaugh:

:hititsmiley::leghumper::leghumper::leghumper::leghumper::leghumper::hititsmiley:


Yet again you are speechless...What!?? have nothing to say to that???

Hide behind your smilies, they'll get you no where!
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Wed 21 Nov, 2007 07:12 pm
@Fatal Freedoms,
Fatal_Freedoms;46448 wrote:
Yet again you are speechless...What!?? have nothing to say to that???

Hide behind your smilies, they'll get you no where!


Not even the nasty ones?:dunno:
Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Wed 21 Nov, 2007 07:41 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;46450 wrote:
Not even the nasty ones?:dunno:


Nope, not even the nasty ones!
:no:
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Volunteer
 
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Reply Thu 22 Nov, 2007 08:04 am
@Fatal Freedoms,
Fatal_Freedoms;46442 wrote:
i first stated the gods and you said that you have met people who believed in those gods, so i did NOT make specific to what i was talking about....

You still haven't met anybody who believes in Thor or Zeus, as you said you have!


As to the mythological creatures, Thor and Zeus, not that I know of. Although I didn't pry into peoples' belief systems. If I became aware of what they believed it was because I broke bread with them or was invited into some aspect of their lives.
 

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