Bible Party of the USA

Yes one has to take responsibility for their own salvation, and it is God who is in us (Christians) that work in us, both the will and the good work as verse 13 says.

Philippians 2:12-13 (KJV)
12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

When Jesus said that some of His disciples would live to see the coming of the Kingdom, He meant the Roman Catholic Church. I'm certain of it.

I would not be overly concern with laws written by men who would make it illegal to speak God's word. The first disciples were threatened time and time again from doing what Jesus commissioned them to do, but that did not prevent them. While I would rather be in a situation where the law or those who put laws into effect respect my right as a human being, I know that my rights and responsibility does not come from men but from God....the responsibility of any government is to respect the rights of all people; they cannot create rights, but they can and have made laws which restricts people rights, in other words, I don't need the government or a government to tell me what my rights are.

In truths, laws are for those who are unable to tell the difference between rights and wrong. However, it is important for those who write laws to know the difference between right from wrong, which is not always the case.

No that's not it...they did see the kingdom as Jesus said, when He was transfigured before them.


Matthew 16:28 (KJV)
28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

They later saw the kingdom when Jesus was transfigure

Matthew 17:1-9 (KJV)
1 And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart,
2 And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light.
3 And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him.
4 Then answered Peter, and said unto Jesus, Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias.
5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.
6 And when the disciples heard it, they fell on their face, and were sore afraid.
7 And Jesus came and touched them, and said, Arise, and be not afraid.
8 And when they had lifted up their eyes, they saw no man, save Jesus only.
9 And as they came down from the mountain, Jesus charged them, saying, Tell the vision to no man, until the Son of man be risen again from the dead.

[SIZE="4"]Brian Vs. Volunteer[/SIZE]
who will win????

you guys are so alike you don't even realize it! Would it make you feel better if i said you were both wrong?

You don't have to. I'm here. Vote for me. Follow me. :bigok:

i'd rather follow a effeminent man in assless chaps into a bar

Hmm....TMI, FF. TMI. You have such a vivid imagination. I gotta ask -- when was the last time you actually did that?:leghump:

wow, i've never known someone to make as many assumptions as you do on a regular basis!

no wonder you're one of the sheeple

Better to be a sheep than a goat.

If any want change in this a "democratic republic" to reflect the values of its citizens, as some 70 to 80 percent of our population profess to having the "CHRISTIAN" faith, how would one go about changing our Government? It is very apparent that the politicians in Washington are simply out of touch with the American public, as proven with the recent attempt to shove more superfluous law down our throats to appease the "less than silent" minority that want to open our borders to "international" laws and treaties as binding and superior to our rule of law, even to that of our constitution. And those that lead the charge for a New World Order and do battle under the guise of protecting our civil liberties are the very same ones that leave the gate "ajar" in the dark of night to let the "barbarians" at our gate "stealthily" enter unobserved or at least allow a small fracture of our constitutional rights crumble one piece at a time to allow the international "elitist" to gain control of our government and its rule of law, of course I am speaking of the ACLU and its never ending assault on our constitution with its flooding of our judicial system with their pointless lawsuits. So, Biblically speaking, what is our charge as Christians, how are we to react to such obvious infractions of our rights?

Are we to request great mobs to demand change? Are we to lay down our lives to enact change? In effect are we to revolt? After all we do command the majority. What does the scriptures say about how we are to conduct ourselves concerning things of government? Is it not a Christians duty to aspire to lead a quite life? (1 Thessalonians 4:11) I say if we are to in effect make change as we do control the majority, we must do it first on an "individual" basis, starting at home, after all Christianity is a religion focused upon individual faith. And faith does not come within a mob mentality. One Christian, one vote. Make the changes required at the ballot box, if your representative does not listen to you, its time for change, regardless of how long he/she has held the position. Faith does not come to people because we happen to live in a democratic society, just as faith does not occur simply due to someone living inside a dictatorial society, just as our society seems to be morphing into, as both the Executive and Legislative branches of our government seem to have laid down their rights to constitutionally challenge the "alogical" judicial system that has became somewhat despotical. As they now feel that it is their right to "legislate" from the bench unimpeded by constitutional restraint. Faith cometh from hearing the WORD, we simply have stopped listening to what we are speaking, if not, why does 80% of the population let 10% on the radical fringes of society dictate their will upon on?

The first step to overcoming anything is to appeal to the one that does have the power to control any and all governments as they are there but at the will of God in the first place to levy punishment to wrongdoers and praise those that do good. (1st Peter 2:13-17)

So I would suggest that there must be a "re-commitment" made by the "professed" 70% of the population to make sure that the government of our fathers remains true to its higher calling. While the results of such a re-commitment might be silent it will not go unnoticed as the politicians seemed to have forgotten that they serve at our will and not vice versa. It's time for the "silent majority" to once again speak softly and carry the big stick of political change. Regardless of what our children are taught in public school it remains our responsibility to ensure that they know the truth, and judging by the "deafening" sound of our silence as the MAJORITY we have been lax in our duties at home, for we must never forget that WE THE PEOPLE are the government, and its time to prove it once again. RD

Forgive me, but the other day I overhead two Biblical Fundies discussing the Bible, life and world affairs in the teachers' lounge. While I like them, they're scary. Their literal interpretations and exaggerations of the importance of Biblical prophecy were frighteningly ignorant.

better to be an intelligent free thinking individual, who is self-reliant!

The Bible can be liberaly interpreted to mean whatever the person wishes it to mean!