Bible Party of the USA

So until the US passes a law saying that all kids must be sent to public schools and cannot attend private schools or be homed schooled your argument is not valid. In fact it is untrue. As a Christian parent it was my responsibility to teach my children about God. Not the governments.

Volunteer


You do realize that during Jesus lifetime , Roman rule was the law of the land and that teaching about God was not main stream? The romans had many God and myths they worshipped and yet the Jewish God believers still remained stead fast in their faith?


You do realize that at many times down through history Christians have faced death if they met together to worship God?

Compared to history we are in a fairly good state where our religion is concerned in this country. We can teach our children as we please and we can meet together without fear of a army arresting and killing us all.

The hate crime legislation just passed. I don't hear anybody telling Christians or pastors they cannot teach the bible anywhere. Now perhaps you will hear that somebody landed in jail that should have been taught the entire bible. Like some poor person who had parents that taught them that being gay is wrong without teaching them that Christ also said we are not to take it upon oursleves to judge or take revenge. You might hear some person who was not taught the real teachings of Christ gets prosecuted under the Hate crimes act because they killed or beat somebody up. But then they would not really be acting on the teachings of christ , because he never told us to beat or kill anybody.

Volunteer


You do realize that during Jesus lifetime , Roman rule was the law of the land and that teaching about God was not main stream? The romans had many God and myths they worshipped and yet the Jewish God believers still remained stead fast in their faith?


You do realize that at many times down through history Christians have faced death if they met together to worship God?

Compared to history we are in a fairly good state where our religion is concerned in this country. We can teach our children as we please and we can meet together without fear of a army arresting and killing us all.

Roger that, it is the responsibility of every Jew and Christian to teach their children the Word of God and to live by that Word. When the government contradicts that teaching or ridicules the children for their Biblical beliefs, it has crossed that imaginary line people keep touting about separation of church and state.

Have you read about the Judicial ruling that prevents parents from opting their children out of public school classes that teach promiscuity and sexual experimentation? I know this may not be happening in WV, but it is elsewhere in the USA. Do you have the income to send you children or grandchildren to private school? Did you when your children were children?

The mythical separation of church and state is one major example. There is no statement in the Constitution or Bill of Rights of the USA that implies a separation of church and state. Yet this has become the law of the land based on a ruling from the Supreme Court of the USA.

This ruling has opened the door for the removal of all prayer from our puiblic schools; the removal of the Bible as a book of instruction in our public schools; changing the history taught to our children and grandchildren in our public schools from the actual facts, in which the nature of our founders' Christian relationship with God has been replaced by a sanitized version that excludes the role of Christianity in the founding and building of the USA. It has also led to an exclusion of publicly professing Christians from many walks of life.

With the introduction of the hate crimes legislation now being considered as an ammendment to the FY 2008 Defense Appropriations Act, if this passes, Christians will be prohibited from teaching their children the Word of God and church leaders will be prohibited by law from preaching the Gospel.

Already, the forces of the anti-Christ are forcing Christians to remove the cross from their gravestones/markers. Christian symbols placed on memorials are in jeopardy every day from a concerted effort to remove all reference to Christ Jesus and His Father from the public eye.

If you believe this does not constitute a prohibition against the individual Christian obeying God's Word, then consider this as only one passage that these societal actions have caused Christians to ignore or shun:

Dt 11:18-11:19, “Impress these words of Mine on your hearts and souls, bind them as a sign on your hands, and let them be a symbol on your foreheads. Teach them to your children, talking about them when you sit in your house and when you walk along the road, when you lie down and when you get up.”

Maybe not yet, just wait. They will. Please don't tell me you are like the president of Iran, wishing to hasten the end of the world by allowing evil to grow exponentially.

One reason we have the crime we have is that people have a vested interest in using the quote about, judging not lest ye be judged, to justify their behavior. They can do this by lifting it from the context and ignoring the fact that identification of the bad behavior as bad behavior is different from judging whether someone is a good enough Christian. The passage in question does not tell us not to call sin, sin. It tells us not to judge the salvation of another Christian.

People who want to persist in their sin use this line to shut you up and intimidate you into silence so you won't remind them what they are doing is sin/wrong. If their concience has quit working and no one tells them they are wrong to behave in a certain way, then they can persist in that behavior without consequence in the here and now. That seems fine for them since they have blinded themselves to the Truth.

On the side of the Christian it is another matter. The Christian who chooses to remain silent is not helping those who continue in sin to be saved from an eternity in Hell. Are you content to allow that situation to continue? Are you content to let someone whose conscience has become flabby die in sin in the delusion that there will be no consequence?

Are you unaware that under the hate crimes construct, stating that something is wrong to someone who is doing something wrong is defined as verbal assault if that statement conflicts with the recipient's view of the world and they can show that your statement distressed them? The element of physical violence is not the issue since physical violence was already against the law. If the hate crimes ammendment did ride on the backs of our troops into law, the issue is now thought crimes, not action.

If you are happy this law is about to or has passed, I feel sorry for you and predict there will come a day when you, if you remain a Christian, will feel its bite.

I'm not disregarding the rest of your post. Quote: What Does the Bible Teach About Hell? is one of the sites that explains this simply. Volunteer if you desire to know the truth of God's word I suggest you read this site and we can discuss it further.
I was just replying to this. It isn't the last word on Hell. End Quote,

Look at Luke, chapter 16 verse 19-31. It is the only place I see the idea of Hell for the humans from then till now. The grave. 6 feet under and having knowledge of our separated or saved state with the Lord and His Father. I am surprised others don't pick up on this.

volunteer you must be one of those people who only believes part of the Holy Scriptures? Is this true?...

There is no point if you are one of those who sees as though through a thick veil and has eyes that are covered in scales. And I am not insulting you, I see no point in further discussions if we are not on the same page or learning curve being taught by the Holy Spirit . Let me know? I am not interested in talking with people who spew forth the teachings of men as God's Word. I am only interested in what God has to say on the matter.

1. I believe the Holy Scriptures are God's Word. No.

2. I concur with what God says through His Word.

My question to you: What is a Christian?

A christian is one who acknowledges our Lord Jesus 's sacrifice for us . That he died , and rose again that many might be saved .
John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, that whoever believeth on him shall not persih but have ever lasting life.

[SIZE="5"] And a christian is one who follows the teachings of Christ.[/SIZE]

Saved from what?

[SIZE="3"] Saved from separation from God![/SIZE]

What is the wrath of God?

Should we fear it?

I don't fear it as i am a child of God , though he slay me I will have faith.

But the world should fear it as the bible says this time the earth will be destroyed by fire.

Roger, I understand that and I surmise that unless you were born Jewish, you probably have been a grafted child of Israel since baptizism near birth, confirmed or baptized in water around age 10 and continued from that age in the firm knowledge of your salvation through the sacrifice of Christ Jesus.

However, put yourself outside yourself (as a child of Israel) for a minute and think about it from an unsaved person's point of view. What does separation from God in this situation mean?

Then, think about God's grace that you rely upon. When you come face-to-face with Jesus or Yahweh, what will your reaction be based on descriptions of Their holiness and your knowledge of our sinful state, even as people who've been redeemed? Despite the fact you and I are saved, based on descriptions given in the Bible, when we come face-to-face with Him, we will be hit with an almost physical understanding of how unclean we are and unworthy we are of that grace.

My point in the post you had a problem with was that while we are saved, those who have not heard or been taught God's Word are lost and without a shepherd in the world we live in. This leaves them completely vulnerable in today's world. Without The Word, they have no valid measure with which to discern right and wrong.

The purpose of this party is to reverse that situation by strengthening the moral fiber of our nation.

Consider this article at:

Air America Launches Nationwide Atheism Program -- 10/08/2007

Air America Launches Nationwide Atheism Program
By Nathan Burchfiel
CNSNews.com Staff Writer
October 08, 2007

(CNSNews.com) - The liberal talk radio network Air America announced this week it will launch a nationwide show focusing on atheism. The first national show will feature Christopher Hitchens, author of "God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything."

The Freethought Radio Program, hosted by the co-presidents of the Freedom From Religion Foundation, has been airing on Air America's Madison, Wis., affiliate since April 2006.

On Saturday, Oct. 6, the show will begin airing on 14 other affiliates from Palm Springs, Fla., to Eugene, Ore., and on XM Satellite radio.

"You can turn on the radio or TV 24/7 to be preached at," Annie Laurie Gaylor, co-president of the FFRF, said in a statement. "This is one hour a week of the public airwaves that offers an alternative."

Gaylor said the program "offers irreverent views, news, music and interviews," including a regular news feature called "Theocracy Alert."

Peter Sprigg, vice president for policy at the Family Research Council, noted that atheists have the same free speech rights as all Americans. Yet, as he told Cybercast News Service, "I doubt atheist radio will be any more popular than liberal radio."

"Conservative talk radio dominates, as do Christian radio programs," he said. "I don't think Dr. James Dobson, with Focus on the Family, has anything to worry about from atheist radio."

Sprigg further said that liberals often claim that one can be a Christian and a liberal at the same, but, in his view, the step to promote atheism on the airwaves is indicative perhaps that liberalism is incompatible with traditional religious belief.