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Reply Mon 27 Aug, 2007 04:11 pm
@aaronssongs,
aaronssongs;32945 wrote:
36 "Teacher, which commandment in the law is the greatest?" 37 He said to him, "'You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.' 38 This is the greatest and first commandment. 39 And a second is like it: 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' 40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Really, what does it mean to you, to love your neighbor as yourself? Please explain that to me...because I wouldn't want someone to dictate to me, policy, religion, do's and don'ts...so likewise, I try to refrain from doing that to others...
How is it you imposing your view of the Bible and Scripture, and how it relates to you, personally, like loving your neighbor as yourself? And don't even tell me what God or the Bible says....what do you say? God gave you a brain, use it.


What I say doesn't really matter. Your argument is with God's Word, not with me. I wouldn't be a participant in this forum if it weren't for God's Word. You wouldn't be arguing so much if the counter to your argument was not God's Word. If it was just a man you argue with, you'd say pft and walk away. You can't with God's Word. It follows you everywhere.
aaronssongs
 
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Reply Mon 27 Aug, 2007 05:24 pm
@Volunteer,
Volunteer;33141 wrote:
What I say doesn't really matter. Your argument is with God's Word, not with me. I wouldn't be a participant in this forum if it weren't for God's Word. You wouldn't be arguing so much if the counter to your argument was not God's Word. If it was just a man you argue with, you'd say pft and walk away. You can't with God's Word. It follows you everywhere.


My argument is not with God's Word...my argument is with your interpretation of God's Word, as the "gospel truth"....You are but a man...and men have a tendency to get things undeniably wrong...by another name, "spin"....You fundamentalists have a tendency to corrupt what is written, and "spin" it to your philosophy of life.....definitely not a live and let live mentality.
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Mon 27 Aug, 2007 06:01 pm
@Volunteer,
Fundamentalism is indeed dangerous.
aaronssongs
 
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Reply Mon 27 Aug, 2007 06:22 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;33165 wrote:
Fundamentalism is indeed dangerous.


would you include the Jerry Falwells and the Pat Robertsons of the world, in that?
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Reply Tue 28 Aug, 2007 03:41 pm
@aaronssongs,
aaronssongs;33157 wrote:
...You are but a man...and men have a tendency to get things undeniably wrong.......


Roger that
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Reply Tue 28 Aug, 2007 03:51 pm
@aaronssongs,
aaronssongs;33157 wrote:
....You fundamentalists have a tendency to corrupt what is written, and "spin" it to your philosophy of life.....definitely not a live and let live mentality.


Beg to differ on whether or not I am a fundamentalist.

You will live and I will live; for eternity. I have no problem with that. I don't want to stop you from living the way you want to live. However, I would like you to accept and honor God's Word, not to impose anything on you, but to enable you love God more than yourself and to live eternity in a better place. I can't make that decision for you. No man can. God can't or won't make that decision for you either.

I don't want your living the way you want to live to prevent me from living the way I want to live. I want to live by honoring God's Word. Where we each live eternity is up to God, not us.

Please see below:
Definition of fundamentalism - Merriam-Webster Online Dictionaryhttp://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary
Main Entry: 2pejorative
Function: adjective
Etymology: Late Latin pejoratus, past participle of pejorare to make or become worse, from Latin pejor worse; akin to Sanskrit padyate he falls, Latin ped-, pes foot -- more at FOOT
: having negative connotations; especially : tending to disparage or belittle :

Now, who is calling names??
aaronssongs
 
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Reply Tue 28 Aug, 2007 07:49 pm
@Volunteer,
Volunteer;33410 wrote:
Beg to differ on whether or not I am a fundamentalist.

You will live and I will live; for eternity. I have no problem with that. I don't want to stop you from living the way you want to live. However, I would like you to accept and honor God's Word, not to impose anything on you, but to enable you love God more than yourself and to live eternity in a better place.
Go to Hades...you would like!!!!! I give a rat's booty what you would like.
Don't you see by suggesting you are, in fact, "imposing"????????
What are you using for brains? Look at your words? I am highly offended.
Please don't respond to any more of my posts...I want nothing to do with you. You are unredemptive.



I can't make that decision for you. No man can. God can't or won't make that decision for you either.
Excuse me, but much to your chagrin, you, of all people don't and can't speak for God Almighty...you need to stop that..how dare you. Such arrogance. I hope he strikes you where you live for your arrogance.

I don't want your living the way you want to live to prevent me from living the way I want to live. I want to live by honoring God's Word. Where we each live eternity is up to God, not us.

Live as you choose...but keep your recommendations to yourself...you see below....It's over...

Please see below:

You're a hateful, arrogant hypocrite. And get the log out of your eye before you attempt to adjust another's toothpick.....DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
Volunteer
 
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Reply Wed 29 Aug, 2007 05:15 pm
@aaronssongs,
aaronssongs;33464 wrote:
Volunteer;33410 wrote:
Beg to differ on whether or not I am a fundamentalist.

You will live and I will live; for eternity. I have no problem with that. I don't want to stop you from living the way you want to live. However, I would like you to accept and honor God's Word, not to impose anything on you, but to enable you love God more than yourself and to live eternity in a better place.
Go to Hades...you would like!!!!! I give a rat's booty what you would like.
Don't you see by suggesting you are, in fact, "imposing"????????
What are you using for brains? Look at your words? I am highly offended.
Please don't respond to any more of my posts...I want nothing to do with you. You are unredemptive.



I can't make that decision for you. No man can. God can't or won't make that decision for you either.
Excuse me, but much to your chagrin, you, of all people don't and can't speak for God Almighty...you need to stop that..how dare you. Such arrogance. I hope he strikes you where you live for your arrogance.

I don't want your living the way you want to live to prevent me from living the way I want to live. I want to live by honoring God's Word. Where we each live eternity is up to God, not us.

Live as you choose...but keep your recommendations to yourself...you see below....It's over...

Please see below:

You're a hateful, arrogant hypocrite. And get the log out of your eye before you attempt to adjust another's toothpick.....DO YOU UNDERSTAND?


Yes, I understand. Your ideal is if I or anyone says something you don't like you want them to go away and leave you alone, or worse.

You are very fragile if these words offend you. Your opinions and chosen life style corrupt society. This offends me. According to the Word of God, it offends God also. I can't help it and frankly don't care if you are offended by these things. Nothing in life says you have a right not to be offended.
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2007 12:10 pm
@Volunteer,
1 Samuel 8, “When Samuel grew old, he appointed his sons as judges over Israel. His firstborn son's name was Joel and his second was Abijah. They were judges in Beer-sheba. However, his sons did not walk in his ways—they turned toward dishonest gain, took bribes, and perverted justice.

So all the elders of Israel gathered together and went to Samuel at Ramah. They said to him, "Look, you are old, and your sons do not follow your example. Therefore, appoint a king to judge us the same as all the other nations have."

When they said, "Give us a king to judge us," Samuel considered their demand sinful, so he prayed to the LORD. But the LORD told him, "Listen to the people and everything they say to you. They have rejected you; they have rejected Me as their king. They are doing the same thing to you that they have done to Me, since the day I brought them out of Egypt until this day, abandoning Me and worshiping other gods. Listen to them, but you must solemnly warn them and tell them about the rights of the king who will rule over them."

Samuel told all the LORD's words to the people who were asking him for a king. He said, "These are the rights of the king who will rule over you: He can take your sons and put them to his use in his chariots, on his horses, or running in front of his chariots. He can appoint them for his use as commanders of thousands or commanders of fifties, to plow his ground or reap his harvest, or to make his weapons of war or the equipment for his chariots. He can take your daughters to become perfumers, cooks, and bakers. He can take your best fields, vineyards, and olive orchards and give them to his servants. He can take a tenth of your grain and your vineyards and give them to his officials and servants. He can take your male servants, your female servants, your best young men, and your donkeys and use them for his work. He can take a tenth of your flocks, and you yourselves can become his servants. When that day comes, you will cry out because of the king you've chosen for yourselves, but the LORD won't answer you on that day."

The people refused to listen to Samuel. "No!" they said. "We must have a king over us. Then we'll be like all the other nations: our king will judge us, go out before us, and fight our battles."

Samuel listened to all the people's words and then repeated them to the LORD. "Listen to them," the LORD told Samuel. "Appoint a king for them." Then Samuel told the men of Israel, "Each of you, go back to your city."”
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aaronssongs
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2007 02:05 pm
@Volunteer,
Volunteer;33641 wrote:
aaronssongs;33464 wrote:


Yes, I understand. Your ideal is if I or anyone says something you don't like you want them to go away and leave you alone, or worse.

You are very fragile if these words offend you. Your opinions and chosen life style corrupt society. This offends me. According to the Word of God, it offends God also. I can't help it and frankly don't care if you are offended by these things. Nothing in life says you have a right not to be offended.


Perhaps....but everything in life says that I can change the channel....just like I do, when the hypocritical televangelists get on the tube, quote a few scriptures, make ugly faces, and give you the digits to call to send your hard-earned money, so their dogs can have air conditioned kennels...I'm changing your channel...goodbye
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Reply Tue 11 Sep, 2007 04:59 pm
@aaronssongs,
aaronssongs;36090 wrote:

Perhaps....but everything in life says that I can change the channel....just like I do, when the hypocritical televangelists get on the tube, quote a few scriptures, make ugly faces, and give you the digits to call to send your hard-earned money, so their dogs can have air conditioned kennels...I'm changing your channel...goodbye


Now who has the mote in their eye.

Thank you for saying goodbye.



goodbye

SYLLABICATION: good•bye
PRONUNCIATION: gd-b
VARIANT FORMS: or good-bye also good-by
INTERJECTION: Used to express an acknowledgement of parting.
NOUN: Inflected forms: pl. good•byes also good-•bys
1. An acknowledgment at parting, especially by saying “goodbye.” 2. An act of parting or leave-taking: many sad goodbyes.
ETYMOLOGY: Alteration (influenced by good day) of God be with you.
WORD HISTORY: No doubt more than one reader has wondered exactly how goodbye is derived from the phrase “God be with you.” To understand this, it is helpful to see earlier forms of the expression, such as God be wy you, god b'w'y, godbwye, god buy' ye, and good-b'wy. The first word of the expression is now good and not God, for good replaced God by analogy with such expressions as good day, perhaps after people no longer had a clear idea of the original sense of the expression. A letter of 1573 written by Gabriel Harvey contains the first recorded use of goodbye: “To requite your gallonde [gallon] of godbwyes, I regive you a pottle of howdyes,” recalling another contraction that is still used.
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Tue 11 Sep, 2007 07:00 pm
@aaronssongs,
aaronssongs;33174 wrote:
would you include the Jerry Falwells and the Pat Robertsons of the world, in that?


Definitely, although they have done some good deeds.
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Reply Wed 12 Sep, 2007 04:06 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;36448 wrote:
Definitely, although they have done some good deeds.


Pino,

Sorry, your attitude doesn't make sense and doesn't track with the Bible.

I know you believe the Bible is just a conglomeration of man made writings that has been corrupted over time.

I disagree.
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Wed 12 Sep, 2007 07:10 pm
@Volunteer,
Volunteer;36692 wrote:
Pino,

Sorry, your attitude doesn't make sense and doesn't track with the Bible.

I know you believe the Bible is just a conglomeration of man made writings that has been corrupted over time.

I disagree.


I never said they've been corrupted. Where did you get that? The Bible is invaluable Judeo-Christian religious literature. I love the Bible and read it almost every day. I just don't believe it's a substitute for Jesus or God. Fundies worship the Bible. They believe the Bible is God. It isn't. Such thinking is horribly irrational. God pre-dates the Bible, by a long-shot. God is not a collection of writings.
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Reply Thu 13 Sep, 2007 05:08 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;36712 wrote:
I never said they've been corrupted. Where did you get that? The Bible is invaluable Judeo-Christian religious literature. I love the Bible and read it almost every day. I just don't believe it's a substitute for Jesus or God. Fundies worship the Bible. They believe the Bible is God. It isn't. Such thinking is horribly irrational. God pre-dates the Bible, by a long-shot. God is not a collection of writings.


I got it from your previous posts and your insistence that I am a "fundie" because I believe the Bible is the Word of God. I don't believe the Bible is God, just that it is His Word. That doesn't mean I worship it. It means I respect it. It seems you do also to a certain degree.

Using a label like fundamentalism or fundamentalist is dangerous. First because it is inaccurate and second because it carries baggage.
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Reply Thu 13 Sep, 2007 06:36 pm
@Volunteer,
So far, I'm impressed with Aaron. I've been watching him closely, poised to report abuse. He's a new man, or so it seems right now.
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Reply Sat 15 Sep, 2007 03:30 pm
@Volunteer,
Well, I just looked at my post count. I'd like to know how it got to 1074?

Time really must fly when you're having fun?
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Red cv
 
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Reply Sat 15 Sep, 2007 05:13 pm
@aaronssongs,
aaronssongs;36090 wrote:
Volunteer;33641 wrote:


Perhaps....but everything in life says that I can change the channel....just like I do, when the hypocritical televangelists get on the tube, quote a few scriptures, make ugly faces, and give you the digits to call to send your hard-earned money, so their dogs can have air conditioned kennels...I'm changing your channel...goodbye


Yes it's much more amusing to watch two pit bulls fight to the death than provide them adequate shelter. A dead dog doesn't need food or water either, wow this dog fighting thing is very economical isn't it.
aaronssongs
 
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Reply Sat 15 Sep, 2007 10:17 pm
@Red cv,
Red;37353 wrote:
aaronssongs;36090 wrote:


Yes it's much more amusing to watch two pit bulls fight to the death than provide them adequate shelter. A dead dog doesn't need food or water either, wow this dog fighting thing is very economical isn't it.


If you followed the thread...my commentary was concerning someone demeaning Whoopi Goldberg, who voiced an opinion (not mine) about the subculture ( a very minute representation, contrary to the blanket indictment bandied about), of dogfighting in black culture. I don't condone the behavior, and support the judgement against Vick....but all that got thrown out, baby with the bathwater, because all that was emphasized was my defense of Whoopi, not as a person, but of her position. People are so quick to judge, and don't examine the facts, or reality. The remarks were racist and indefensible....as one cannot tell someone else what is or isn't offensive to them. You can't un-ring a bell.
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Reply Sun 16 Sep, 2007 08:30 am
@Red cv,
Red;37353 wrote:
aaronssongs;36090 wrote:


Yes it's much more amusing to watch two pit bulls fight to the death than provide them adequate shelter. A dead dog doesn't need food or water either, wow this dog fighting thing is very economical isn't it.


FYI All,

The original quote provided by Aaron was improperly formatted. This implied that the quote was my statement. Subsequent quotes of Aaron's statement continue this mistake.

Whatever the reason for this, this thread is not about dog fighting or race issues. These issues are introduced to this thread in an deliberate or subconscious attempt to divert from the subject of the thread, establishment of a new US political party, The Bible Party of the USA.
 

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