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Bible Party of the USA

 
 
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Reply Tue 14 Aug, 2007 06:39 pm
@aaronssongs,
aaronssongs;30646 wrote:
You got it! You're using scripture for your own personal edification...that is blasphemy, in case you didn't know.


Emphasis added.

Huh???

Please see below:

Definition of edification - Merriam-Webster Online DictionaryDefinition of edify - Merriam-Webster Online Dictionaryto instruct and improve especially in moral and religious knowledge : UPLIFT; also : ENLIGHTEN, INFORM
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Reply Thu 16 Aug, 2007 05:28 pm
@Volunteer,
Is the battle real?

From the article at:

Four Key Questions Every Christian Must Answer | Christianpost.com

"There are six key indicators from the culture itself that suggest the battle is certainly real. Those indicators are:

1. Open hostility toward biblical Christianity in the marketplace.
2. The majority of people no longer believe absolute truth exists.
3. The rise and acceptance if immorality.
4. The loss of civility and the rise of harsh rhetoric in public debates.
5. The trashing of traditional agents of stability in the culture such as marriage, the family, and sexual abstinence until marriage.
6. The elevation of science to god-like status and the emphasis on genetics as the cause of sinful behavior."
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Fri 17 Aug, 2007 08:18 am
@Volunteer,
Volunteer;31466 wrote:
Is the battle real?

From the article at:

Four Key Questions Every Christian Must Answer | Christianpost.com

"There are six key indicators from the culture itself that suggest the battle is certainly real. Those indicators are:

1. Open hostility toward biblical Christianity in the marketplace.
2. The majority of people no longer believe absolute truth exists.
3. The rise and acceptance if immorality.
4. The loss of civility and the rise of harsh rhetoric in public debates.
5. The trashing of traditional agents of stability in the culture such as marriage, the family, and sexual abstinence until marriage.
6. The elevation of science to god-like status and the emphasis on genetics as the cause of sinful behavior."



Whenever I return to Colorado to see my extended family, I am assaulted by the above belief-system. My sister-in-law believes strictly in science and genetic superiority. She hates religion, and pretty much dominates my brother's thinking. One of her claims to fame is that her father worked for NASA as an engineer his entire life. I asked if he was in charge of the tile program. If so, he was definitely a screw-up.Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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Reply Sat 18 Aug, 2007 06:51 am
@Volunteer,
I heard about what seems to be a worthwhile endevour yesterday. Back to the Bible's current project is called City Impact India. This project, described below, broadcasts scripture based programs to a city of 7 million people.

International Ministries
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Reply Sun 19 Aug, 2007 12:02 pm
@Volunteer,
Here is one dedicated Christian soldier, Ya'll. One question: Is our fight against flesh and blood?

Here is the text of the rap from:

BadAssMarine.com

She called...

Blacks, Whites...wait
African Americans and Caucasians, Asians, excuse me.
Vietnamese, Philipenes, Koreans and Jamaicans or
Haitans, waitin' Hispanics y'all.

Please be paitent
Mexican, Puerto Ricans, Venezualean, Cuban, Dominican, Panamanian Democrats
I beg your pardon, you partied with the late, great Reagan?
Republican, Independent, Christian, Catholic,
Methodist, Baptist, 7th Day Adventist, 5 Percenters,
Hindu, Sunii Muslim, Brothers and Sisters who never seen the New York city
skyline when the twin towers still existed.
But still She called.

From the bowels of Ground Zero she sent this 911 distress signal.
Because She was in desperate need of a hero,
and didn't have time to decipher what to call 'em,
so she called 'em all Her children.
The children of the stars and bars who needed to know nothing more than the fact that she called.
The fact that someone attempted to harm us
this daughter who covered us all with her loving arms.
And now these arms are sprawled across New York City streets.
A smoke filled lung, a silt covered faced,
and a solitary tear poured out of her cheek.
Her singed garments carpets Pennsylvania Avenue and the Pentagon was under her feet.
As she began to talk, she began to cough up small particles of debris
and said, "I am America, and I'm calling on the land of the free."
So they answered.

All personal differences set to the side
because right now there was no time to decide which state building the Confederate flag should fly over,
and which trimester the embryo is considered alive,
or on our monetary units, and which God we should confide.
You see, someone attempted to choke the voice
of the one who gave us the right for choice,
and now she was callin.
And somebody had to answer.
Who was going to answer?

So they did.
Stern faces and chisled chins.
Devoted women and disciplined men,
who rose from the ashes like a pheonix
and said "don't worry, we'll stand in your defense."
They tightened up their bootlaces
and said goodbye to loved ones, family and friends.
They tried to bombard them with the "hold on", "wait-a-minute's", and "what-if's".
And "Daddy, where you goin?".
And, "Mommy, why you leavin?".
And they merely kissed them on their foreheads and said "Don't worry, I have my reasons.
You see, to this country I pledged my allegience
to defend it against all enemies foreign and domestic.
So as long as I'm breathin, I'll run though hell-fire,
meet the enemy on the front lines,
look him directly in his face,
stare directly in his eyes and scream,
"I AM AMERICA! WE WILL NOT BE TERRORIZED!
WE WILL NOT BE TERRORIZED!
I REFUSE TO BE AFRAID!
I'LL FIGHT YOU ANY COUNTRY, ANY CONTINENT, ANY TERRAIN.
I'LL FIGHT TO MY LAST BREATH!"

And if by chance death is my fate,
pin my medals upon my chest,
and throw Old Glory on my grave.
But, don't y'all cry for me.
You see, my Father's prepared a place.
I'll be a part of his Holy army standing a watch at the Pearly Gates.
Because freedom was never free.
POW's, and fallen soldiers
all paid the ultimate sacrafice
along side veterans who put themselves in harms way.
Risking their lives and limbs just to hold up democracy's weight,
but still standing on them broken appendages anytime the National Anthem was played.
You see, these were the brave warriors that gave me the right
to say that I'm Black. Or white.

Or

African American or Caucasian,
I'm Asian, excuse me.
I'm Vietnamese, Philipene, Korean, or Jamaican.
I'm Haitan, Hispanic

Y'all, Please be paitent.
I'm Mexican, Puerto Rican, Venezualean, Cuban,
Dominican, Panamanian, Democrat
I beg your pardon, you see I partied with the late, great Reagan.
I'm Republican, Independent, Christian, Catholic,
Methodist, Baptist, 7th Day Adventist, 5 Percenters,
Hindu, Sunii Muslim,

Brothers and Sisters We're just Americans.
So with that I say
"Thank You" to the Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marines,
for preserving my rights
to live and die for this life
and paying the ultimate price for me to be...FREE!
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Reply Sun 19 Aug, 2007 01:43 pm
@Volunteer,
I don't know, but I been told, the 197th was as good as gold.
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Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2007 05:03 pm
@Volunteer,
I really don't understand why some of these federal civil servants are being paid, specifically in the judicial series.

Illegal Presence in US Not a Crime, Court Says -- 08/21/2007

Illegal Presence in US Not a Crime, Court Says
By Jeff Golimowski
CNSNews.com Senior Staff Writer
August 21, 2007
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Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2007 05:45 pm
@Volunteer,
One step closer to a thoroughly Hispanicized America. Learn Spanish. I did.
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Reply Sun 26 Aug, 2007 11:57 am
@Volunteer,
This is an important web site that conveys what the Law is and why we should put our (Christian and Jew) faith into action in an organization like the proposed Bible Party of the USA.

The Way of the Master
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Sun 26 Aug, 2007 02:22 pm
@Volunteer,
Volunteer;32899 wrote:
This is an important web site that conveys what the Law is and why we should put our (Christian and Jew) faith into action in an organization like the proposed Bible Party of the USA.

The Way of the Master


Volly,

You can't be both a Christian and a Jew. You're either one or the other. Sometimes I think you've gotten them confused.
aaronssongs
 
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Reply Sun 26 Aug, 2007 02:52 pm
@Volunteer,
Volunteer;31008 wrote:
Emphasis added.

Huh???

Please see below:

Definition of edification - Merriam-Webster Online DictionaryDefinition of edify - Merriam-Webster Online Dictionaryto instruct and improve especially in moral and religious knowledge : UPLIFT; also : ENLIGHTEN, INFORM


Oh, how nice...you do have access to a dictionary...but I fail to see the point you were trying to make.
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Reply Sun 26 Aug, 2007 03:00 pm
@Volunteer,
Volunteer;32899 wrote:
This is an important web site that conveys what the Law is and why we should put our (Christian and Jew) faith into action in an organization like the proposed Bible Party of the USA.

The Way of the Master


As long as I'm breathing, I'll fight against any dissolution of the separation of church and state...I won't subscribe to a fascist government. I'll be damned if I subscribe to a fascist religious entity. The Bible was never meant to be used as a weapon or to subjugate....it is invitational...perhaps you've forgotten the teachings of Christ...name one instance where he demanded his followers to follow him....yet, you would force your brand of religion on all peoples...I can't think of anything more un-American. And downright scary.
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Reply Sun 26 Aug, 2007 03:13 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;32926 wrote:
Volly,

You can't be both a Christian and a Jew. You're either one or the other. Sometimes I think you've gotten them confused.


Pino,

I know which I am. I haven't gotten them confused. Can't have one without the other.
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Reply Sun 26 Aug, 2007 03:23 pm
@aaronssongs,
aaronssongs;32933 wrote:
As long as I'm breathing, I'll fight against any dissolution of the separation of church and state...I won't subscribe to a fascist government. I'll be damned if I subscribe to a fascist religious entity. The Bible was never meant to be used as a weapon or to subjugate....it is invitational...perhaps you've forgotten the teachings of Christ...name one instance where he demanded his followers to follow him....yet, you would force your brand of religion on all peoples...I can't think of anything more un-American. And downright scary.
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Reply Sun 26 Aug, 2007 03:24 pm
@Volunteer,
Deuteronomy is The Law. It convicts. Christ came to enable a pardon.
aaronssongs
 
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Reply Sun 26 Aug, 2007 04:19 pm
@Volunteer,
Volunteer;32940 wrote:



Excuse me, but I didn't make a statement about "ultimate destination"....that would be akin to judging...and I'm am in no position to judge where you gon' wind up, or where George Bush will wind up. I try not to judge....don't always succeed...but I try.
And yes, indeed, we "all fall short"....that being said, how can I tell you what is right for you, when I have a hard time figuring what is right for me....hey, but people make that mistake, everyday. Don't make it right.

I don't care that separation of church and state isn't spelled out in the Bill of Rights and/or the Constitution, and I have doubts about that, because I think, somewhere, it is....but given that, it still 'sounds" right to me....church is church and state is state...and the two shouldn't mix...does that mean that we don't enact laws which respect and guarantee people's individual beliefs? Of course not...we do, and should. Should God and his laws be taken into account...I think so, but you have the right not to, if you feel that is not right for you. Freedom. Liberty, and the pursuit of personal happiness...which may or may not include a God of your understanding...
This is not an Episcopal nation...not a Catholic nation, not a Baptist nation, not a Jewish nation, not a Buddhist nation, not a Ba'hai nation, not an Islamic nation, not a nation of atheists...but all have a stake here...and one should not be oppressed by another...a Bible Party would unfairly and unjustly impose its' views and positions on the others, who have just as much right to their views....its' no different from Zionism or radical Islam.
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Reply Sun 26 Aug, 2007 04:26 pm
@Volunteer,
Volunteer;32941 wrote:
Deuteronomy is The Law. It convicts. Christ came to enable a pardon.


36 "Teacher, which commandment in the law is the greatest?" 37 He said to him, "'You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.' 38 This is the greatest and first commandment. 39 And a second is like it: 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' 40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Really, what does it mean to you, to love your neighbor as yourself? Please explain that to me...because I wouldn't want someone to dictate to me, policy, religion, do's and don'ts...so likewise, I try to refrain from doing that to others...
How is it you imposing your view of the Bible and Scripture, and how it relates to you, personally, like loving your neighbor as yourself? And don't even tell me what God or the Bible says....what do you say? God gave you a brain, use it.
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Reply Sun 26 Aug, 2007 05:58 pm
@Volunteer,
Volunteer;32935 wrote:
Pino,

I know which I am. I haven't gotten them confused. Can't have one without the other.


Right....and you are one, not both. You're just one.
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Reply Sun 26 Aug, 2007 06:01 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;32949 wrote:
Right....and you are one, not both. You're just one.


Oh, my! Is it "trouble in paradise"???
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Reply Mon 27 Aug, 2007 04:09 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;32949 wrote:
Right....and you are one, not both. You're just one.


Roger that.
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