Bible Party of the USA

What's your point?

Libertarians are the ultimate cowards within our system. They withdraw, give up, walk away, and let the bad guys gain strength in their absence. All the while, they continue to reap the benefits of living in this great land. :no:

Take a look at the link below for a global incident map. The page automatically updates every 360 seconds.

Global Incident Map Displaying Terrorist Acts, Suspicious Activity, and General Terrorism News

Great tool. I'm going to use it, big time. Thanks.

I didn't know about this until today. The following text is quoted from:

Real US History

Alexander Hamilton
“The Ratifier of the Constitution”, author of 51 of the 85 Federalist Papers

I have a tender reliance on the mercy of the Almighty, through the merits of the Lord Jesus Christ. I am a sinner. I look to Him for mercy; pray for me.” (July 12, 1804 at his death)


Hamilton worked with the Reverend James Bayard to form the Christian Constitutional Society to help spread over the world the two things which Hamilton said made America great:
(1) Christianity
(2) a Constitution formed under Christianity

"I now offer you the outline of the plan they have suggested. Let an association be formed to be denominated 'The Christian Constitutional Society,' its object to be first: The support of the Christian religion. Second: The support of the United States ." (Alexander Hamilton explained in an 1802 letter to James Bayard)

"For my own part, I sincerely esteem it a system which without the finger of God, never could have been suggested and agreed upon by such a diversity of interests." (1787 after the Constitutional Convention)

More from:Real US History
Consider these FACTS of history :

17 th Century America

Dating back as early as 1606 we read from The First Charter of Virginia “ We, greatly commending, and graciously accepting of, their Desires for the Furtherance of so noble a Work, which may, by the Providence of Almighty God, hereafter tend to the Glory of his Divine Majesty, in propagating of Christian Religion to such People, as yet live in Darkness and miserable Ignorance of the true Knowledge and Worship of God…” (The First Charter of Virginia, granted by King James I, on April 10, 1606)

If we go back to 1620 and the landing of the Pilgrims at Plymouth , we find the very birth certificate of America . In this charter they recorded their purpose—clearly stating that it was for “the glory of God and the advancement of the Christian faith.” (The Mayflower Compact)

This first American experiment in federation, written in 1643, stated that the one single aim of the American colonies was “to advance the Kingdom of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to enjoy the liberties of the Gospel thereof in purities and peace.…” ( New England Confederation of 1643)

The famous William Bradford wrote that they [the Pilgrims] were seeking:
• 1) "a better, and easier place of living”; and that “the children of the group were being drawn away by evil examples into extravagance and dangerous courses [in Holland]“
• 2) “The great hope, and for the propagating and advancing the gospel of the kingdom of Christ in those remote parts of the world" The Mayflower Compact (authored by William Bradford 1620)



John Adams
Second President of the United States , delegate to the firstand second Continental Congress

“ The general principles upon which the Fathers achieved independence were the general principals of Christianity… I will avow that I believed and now believe that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God.”
“[July 4th] ought to be commemorated as the day of deliverance by solemn acts of devotion to God Almighty. ”( John Adams in a letter written to Abigail on the day the Declaration was approved by Congress)



Samuel Adams
Political leader of the American Revolution and signerof the declaration of independence

“ He who made all men hath made the truths necessary to human happiness obvious to all… Our forefathers opened the Bible to all.” ("American Independence ," August 1, 1776. Speech delivered at the State House in Philadelphia)

“ Let divines and philosophers, statesmen and patriots, unite their endeavors to renovate the age by impressing the minds of men with the importance of educating their little boys and girls, inculcating in the minds of youth the fear and love of the Deity… and leading them in the study and practice of the exalted virtues of the Christian system.” (October 4, 1790)



John Quincy Adams
Sixth president of the United States :

“Why is it that, next to the birthday of the Savior of the world , your most joyous and most venerated festival returns on this day [the Fourth of July]?" “Is it not that, in the chain of human events, the birthday of the nation is indissolubly linked with the birthday of the Savior? That it forms a leading event in the progress of the Gospel dispensation? Is it not that the Declaration of Independence first organized the social compact on the foundation of the Redeemer's mission upon earth? That it laid the cornerstone of human government upon the first precepts of Christianity "? (July 4th, 1837 when he delivered a Fourth of July speech at Newburyport, Massachusetts)

Great words from great men. Wonder why no quotes of separation, LOL. Maybe because there isn't any?

Thank you. Thank you very much. It feels good to be appreciated, for a change.

Roger that.

aren't you insulting him with that statement? How is that different from
calling someone an idiot?

You know that, with the exceptions of the Adams family, most of the other
founding fathers were deist, right? Some seem to have been Atheist.

Okay, even Adams wasn't a "Christian," as he also rejected the divinity of Jesus.

Adams was raised a Congregationalist, but ultimately rejected many
fundamental doctrines of conventional Christianity, such as the Trinity and
the divinity of Jesus, becoming a Unitarian. In his youth, Adams' father urged
him to become a minister, but Adams refused, considering the practice of law
to be a more noble calling. Although he once referred to himself as a "church
going animal," Adams' view of religion overall was rather ambivalent: He
recognized the abuses, large and small, that religious belief lends itself to, but
he also believed that religion could be a force for good in individual lives and
in society at large. His extensive reading (especially in the classics), led him
to believe that this view applied not only to Christianity, but to all religions.

The religion of John Adams, second U.S. President

I hereby declare victory. I have won.

LOL!!! What are you talking about? 52 of the 56 signers of the Constitution were Christian.

One is deemed a personal attack, the other is not. By my definition.
Edit. I looked for the post i said that so i could see the context. Couldn't find it, you got a link?

wow, south america and africa are apparently terrorism free and the places to
be.


Not. I guess they don't count, or maybe when terrorism is a part of daily life it's
not worth noting?

There were a handful of deists among them. Two happened to be very important -- Franklin and Jefferson. Their fame created the myth that our Founders were predominantly non-Christian.

according to their journals and dairies they weren't necessarily "Christian."
For some reason, at that time, people weren't sold on the divinity of Jesus.
A lot of them were Unitarians, which espouses that God exists, he doesn't
directly influence the world and all religions are a good attempt to better
the world, but maybe they all go a little wrong.

Jefferson and Franklin (and, to a smaller, more private degree, Washington)
seemed to flirt with agnosticism and atheism in their thinking.

A big thing to consider is that England had a state church, which existed here
in the colonies, too, and you were sworn to support the king through the
religion. They viewed that as a very bad situation, and they didn't want that
happening here.

Look, I'm an Atheist, but I was raised catholic and in catholic schools. I
happen to like Jesus and his teachings a great deal, and I don't care where
they came from, there's place for them to be considered and studied and
wisdom and lessons to be learned from them.

I don't want any government directly, literally basing state policies on them,
though, anymore than I want to live under sharia law.

Many of them rejected the divinity of Jesus.

people's views, and their willingness or ability to be open about them, change
over time. In many writings a lot of them expressed doubts and different views,
even while attending church, because they thought it was something that was
good for the community of the new country.

They were familiar with the King's Church, though, which would have made the
revolution that made this country exist a sin in the eyes of God. That weighed
on them, and defined their feeling about how much influence the state should
have in religion and vice versa.

Everything I've ever read suggests otherwise. But, as a history teacher, and someone who loves history and has a degree in it, I know the field of History is rife with violent disagreement, so much so, I dropped out of my master's program in it. I got a master's in something totally unrelated, because I couldn't stand the absolutely hateful, left-wing LYING conducted on a regular basis by so many History PhDs at university level. Believe what you want. There's a so-called 'backed up' version of everything out there.