Bible Party of the USA

A libertarian is more self-centered than anyone. We've had this discussion before. You didn't pay attention to your histoiry lessons or our educational system has revised the history it teaches to the point that you didn't get anything but propaganda in your lessons. Your statement above is factually wrong.

They've done a good job of subversion of critical institutions and values in the west.

A twisted barbarian warrior ethos is what we are fighting in the Islamofascist world.

Is there a muslim region of the country I do not know about? Israel's existence is a crusade by any other name. When Britain stormed up palestine it had not had an army invade that land since the last crusades. We are all Crusaders in denial. The Muslims know what it is. Israel is under control of the Jews who are under control of the Chuches of Europe and America. The Crusaders have conquered the most holy of holies in the three great religions of the world.

Until the West starts thinking this way they can never fully understand why men like Osama Bin Laden exist.

Airborne. What do ya wanna be!?! AIRBORNE!!!!!!!:headbang:

A apologist for Islam working as a scribe in the Vatican? Better alert the Swiss Guard, LOL.

OK, I'm on leave this week. Expect more posts.

Huh??? Please explain your comment. You are being unclear.

Osama Bin Laden and people like him exist because they hate. It is as with Cain.

Israel cannot trust Palestine to stop attacking it. Therefore, Israeli occupation must be oppressive, by design. As usual, there are too many fanatical Muslims in the mob for the moderates to control. All it takes is a handful of murderers to impugne an entire group.

It is not oppression. It is prevention of actions that are designed to destroy the state of Israel. If there were no action designed to destroy the state of Israel, Israel would have not need to establish curfews or checkpoints, or restict movement.

There is no such thing as Palestine. What is called Palestine now, is land lost by other Arab countries during wars they started with Israel in the 20th century. The countries that lost land in the wars with Israel in the latter half of the 20th century did not cede their land to create a state called Palestine. They had no intention of doing so. The peopel who call themselves Palestinian reject their previous nationality in Syria, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, etc...

Now, the Islamic world is using the same issues they've had since their father slept with Haggar when he wouldn't wait for God to fulfill His promise. Instead of embracing their illigitimacy, the Islamics should embrace Christ, obey his words, and become adopted into the family of the Children of Israel like the rest of us. The Islamics probably won't do that because they hate and teach their children to hate. They teach them to hate Christians and Jews.

This is the same pattern used by all dictatorships. Blame someone else for your woes and your populace won't blame you (the government).

This might sound contradictory, but I do believe the Israeli occupation is oppressive. If one examines the extent to which Israel has carved up and cordoned off Palestine, the theme of active oppression should come to mind. But, as you pointed out, it's for purposes of protecting Israel. As long as Muslims remain uncivilized, no one can trust them.

In chaos, evil can flourish.

One purpose of the Islamists in their terror activities is to create conditions that cause popular support. In Islamic countries, they do this by pitting one faction against another the Shia aganist the Sunni. They do this by staging attacks to make it look like the opposite side has committed a heinous crime. Then they do the same and make it look as if the other side did it. They continue to do this until both sides are at each others' throats.

In free countries, the west, they are attempting the same thing. they do this by taking actions (attacks) that increase the divide between what could be considered moderate muslims and the greater society of a nation. At some point the majority of a nation must impose tight security on the segment of society that is or appears to be the source or support for these attacks.

Is this oppression? If it is, the oppression comes from those who wish to destabilize the country so they can gain power. This is borne out again and again. This is the battle that has been raging in Africa for the last 60 years. The Islamic base has grown by use of this successful strategy.

That is one reason we need a party like the one proposed in this thread. We need it to counter the erosion of Western (Judeo-Christian) values in those countries that are still relatively free of this activity. The best place to start is at home.

Independence Day in the year of Our Lord, 2007 Anno Domini (AD).

WallBuilders - Historical Writings - The Founders As Christians

Samuel Adams
Father of the American Revolution, Signer of the Declaration of Independence
I ... recommend my Soul to that Almighty Being who gave it, and my body I commit to the dust, relying upon the merits of Jesus Christ for a pardon of all my sins.

Will of Samuel Adams
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Charles Carroll
Signer of the Declaration of Independence
On the mercy of my Redeemer I rely for salvation and on His merits; not on the works I have done in obedience to His precepts.


From an autographed letter in our possession written by Charles Carroll to Charles W. Wharton, Esq., on September 27, 1825, from Doughoragen, Maryland.

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William Cushing
First Associate Justice Appointed by George Washington to the Supreme Court
Sensible of my mortality, but being of sound mind, after recommending my soul to Almighty God through the merits of my Redeemer and my body to the earth ...

Will of William Cushing

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John Dickinson
Signer of the Constitution
Rendering thanks to my Creator for my existence and station among His works, for my birth in a country enlightened by the Gospel and enjoying freedom, and for all His other kindnesses, to Him I resign myself, humbly confiding in His goodness and in His mercy through Jesus Christ for the events of eternity.

Will of John Dickinson
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John Hancock
Signer of the Declaration of Independence
I John Hancock, . . . being advanced in years and being of perfect mind and memory-thanks be given to God-therefore calling to mind the mortality of my body and knowing it is appointed for all men once to die [Hebrews 9:27], do make and ordain this my last will and testament…Principally and first of all, I give and recommend my soul into the hands of God that gave it: and my body I recommend to the earth . . . nothing doubting but at the general resurrection I shall receive the same again by the mercy and power of God . . .

Will of John Hancock
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Patrick Henry
Governor of Virginia, Patriot

This is all the inheritance I can give to my dear family. The religion of Christ can give them one which will make them rich indeed. Will of Patrick Henry
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John Jay
First Chief Justice of the US Supreme Court
Unto Him who is the author and giver of all good, I render sincere and humble thanks for His manifold and unmerited blessings, and especially for our redemption and salvation by His beloved son. He has been pleased to bless me with excellent parents, with a virtuous wife, and with worthy children. His protection has accompanied me through many eventful years, faithfully employed in the service of my country; His providence has not only conducted me to this tranquil situation but also given me abundant reason to be contented and thankful. Blessed be His holy name!

Will of John Jay
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Daniel St. Thomas Jenifer
Signer of the Constitution
In the name of God, Amen. I, Daniel of Saint Thomas Jenifer . . . of dispossing mind and memory, commend my soul to my blessed Redeemer . . .

Will of Daniel St. Thomas Jenifer
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Henry Knox
Revolutionary War General, Secretary of War
First, I think it proper to express my unshaken opinion of the immortality of my soul or mind; and to dedicate and devote the same to the supreme head of the Universe-to that great and tremendous Jehovah, - Who created the universal frame of nature, worlds, and systems in number infinite . . . To this awfully sublime Being do I resign my spirit with unlimited confidence of His mercy and protection . . .

Will of Henry Knox
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John Langdon
Signer of the Constitution
In the name of God, Amen. I, John Langdon, . . . considering the uncertainty of life and that it is appointed unto all men once to die [Hebrews 9:27], do make, ordain and publish this my last will and testament in manner following, that is to say-First: I commend my soul to the infinite mercies of God in Christ Jesus, the beloved Son of the Father, who died and rose again that He might be the Lord of the dead and of the living . . . professing to believe and hope in the joyful Scripture doctrine of a resurrection to eternal life . . .
Will of John Langdon
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John Morton
Signer of the Declaration of Independence
With an awful reverence to the great Almighty God, Creator of all mankind, I, John Morton . . . being sick and weak in body but of sound mind and memory-thanks be given to Almighty God for the same, for all His mercies and favors-and considering the certainty of death and the uncertainty of the times thereof, do, for the settling of such temporal estate as it hath pleased God to bless me with in this life . . .

Will of John Morton
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Robert Treat Paine
Signer of the Declaration of Independence
I desire to bless and praise the name of God most high for appointing me my birth in a land of Gospel Light where the glorious tidings of a Savior and of pardon and salvation through Him have been continually sounding in mine ears.
Robert Treat Paine, The Papers of Robert Treat Paine, Stephen Riley and Edward Hanson, editors (Boston: Massachusetts Historical Society, 1992), Vol. I, p. 48, March/April, 1749.

[W]hen I consider that this instrument contemplates my departure from this life and all earthly enjoyments and my entrance on another state of existence, I am constrained to express my adoration of the Supreme Being, the Author of my existence, in full belief of his providential goodness and his forgiving mercy revealed to the world through Jesus Christ, through whom I hope for never ending happiness in a future state, acknowledging with grateful remembrance the happiness I have enjoyed in my passage through a long life . . .

Will of Robert Treat Paine
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Charles Cotesworth Pinckney
Signer of the Constitution
To the eternal, immutable, and only true God be all honor and glory, now and forever, Amen!...

Will of Charles Cotesworth Pinckney
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Rufus Putnam
Revolutionary War General, First Surveyor General of the United States
[F]irst, I give my soul to a holy, sovereign God Who gave it in humble hope of a blessed immortality through the atonement and righteousness of Jesus Christ and the sanctifying grace of the Holy Spirit. My body I commit to the earth to be buried in a decent Christian manner. I fully believe that this body shall, by the mighty power of God, be raised to life at the last day; 'for this corruptable (sic) must put on incorruption and this mortal must put on immortality.' [I Corinthians 15:53].

Will of Rufus Putnam
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Benjamin Rush
Signer of the Declaration of Independence
My only hope of salvation is in the infinite, transcendent love of God manifested to the world by the death of His Son upon the cross. Nothing but His blood will wash away my sins. I rely exclusively upon it. Come, Lord Jesus! Come quickly!
Benjamin Rush, The Autobiography of Benjamin Rush, George Corner, editor (Princeton: Princeton University Press for the American Philosophical Society, 1948), p. 166, Travels Through Life, An Account of Sundry Incidents & Events in the Life of Benjamin Rush.

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Roger Sherman
Signer of the Declaration of Independence, Signer of the Constitution
I believe that there is one only living and true God, existing in three persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. . . . that the Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments are a revelation from God. . . . that God did send His own Son to become man, die in the room and stead of sinners, and thus to lay a foundation for the offer of pardon and salvation to all mankind so as all may be saved who are willing to accept the Gospel offer.
Lewis Henry Boutell, The Life of Roger Sherman (Chicago: A. C. McClurg and Company, 1896), pp. 272-273.

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Richard Stockton
Signer of the Declaration of Independence
I think it proper here not only to subscribe to the entire belief of the great and leading doctrines of the Christian religion, such as the Being of God, the universal defection and depravity of human nature, the divinity of the person and the completeness of the redemption purchased by the blessed Savior, the necessity of the operations of the Divine Spirit, of Divine Faith, accompanied with an habitual virtuous life, and the universality of the divine Providence, but also . . . that the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom; that the way of life held up in the Christian system is calculated for the most complete happiness that can be enjoyed in this mortal state; that all occasions of vice and immorality is injurious either immediately or consequentially, even in this life; that as Almighty God hath not been pleased in the Holy Scriptures to prescribe any precise mode in which He is to be publicly worshipped, all contention about it generally arises from want of knowledge or want of virtue.
Will of Richard Stockton
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Jonathan Trumbull Sr.
Governor of Connecticut, Patriot
Principally and first of all, I bequeath my soul to God the Creator and Giver thereof, and body to the Earth . . . nothing doubting but that I shall receive the same again at the General Resurrection thro the power of Almighty God; believing and hoping for eternal life thro the merits of my dear, exalted Redeemer Jesus Christ.
Will of Jonathan Trumbull
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John Witherspoon
Signer of the Declaration of Independence
[I entreat] you in the most earnest manner to believe in Jesus Christ, for there is no salvation in any other [Acts 4:12]. . . . f you are not reconciled to God through Jesus Christ, if you are not clothed with the spotless robe of His righteousness, you must forever perish.
John Witherspoon, The Works of John Witherspoon (Edinburgh: J. Ogle, 1815), Vol. V, pp. 276, 278, The Absolute Necessity of Salvation Through Christ, January 2, 1758.

Nice post Vol. Who would of thought our founders were men of faith, LOL.

Yeah......because Jefferson and Franklin were not, a lot of knuckle-headed Americans think all of our founders were Enlightenment heretics.

The founders were not elected to represent atheists. They were elected by others who believed as they did. If the majority of the founders were God fearing, then the majority of the colonists were God fearing. These people all crafted and approved of a government that honored, or was structured to allow people to use their free will to honor God's Word.

And, as the successors of these people, we should be proud of this part of our heritage, and strive to preserve it, without apology, shame or hesitation.

51 pages and counting :wtf:

A perfect post. Thank you, Vol. You made my day.

I concur.