Bible Party of the USA

No, what "responsibilities" is a person meant to fulfill?

It depends on the person, the time, the place. Responsabilities are the rights of others so to say. Truth be told I simply dislike the concept of rights, I believe we don't have inherent material rights. They would eventually keep us from learning.

Nice opinion, Why?

What do you believe freedom as being?

Well when you have a party that supports polices which Christians believe is mass murder, (abortion) it is hard for a religious people to vote for such a party. Also the believers in abortion are usually those who support that party, as a result, the party that does not believe in abortion has grow in numbers, while the party that supports abortion has not. Even with an unpopular Republican President, the Democratic party may still find it hard to come up with enought votes to elect a Democrat to the white house. There was a good article written about this not long ago, called, The Cradle will rock. President Bush was the first president to sign into law a ban on late term abortions. Christians will remember that, and they will know that the best chance they have for stopping abortion is with the Republican party. Most Democrats do not seem interested in stopping abortion. I believe time will show that not only have the Democrats supported polices that have led to the death of 60 million American children, I believe time will show Democrats, that those polices will also usher in the death of their own party.

The woman has no right to kill the fetus. It isn't hers to kill.

It's called adoption, and unless you can back up your claims that the mothers of such children were prevented from aborting them, they're not valid. And how about asking such children if they'd rather be dead?

You're sixteen years old....I'm not going to engage you...your post has, once again, proved my claim.....you don't know anything, and you haven't lived long enough to know you don't know anything. End of line

You people are liable to ad hominem, ain'cha?

You people are liable to ad hominem, ain'cha?

An ad hominem argument, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin: "argument to the person", "argument against the man") consists of replying to an argument or factual claim by attacking or appealing to the person making the argument or claim, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument or producing evidence against the claim. It is most commonly used to refer specifically to the ad hominem abusive, or argumentum ad personam, which consists of criticizing or personally attacking an argument's proponent in an attempt to discredit that argument.


"You people"....don't know what that means. (Was that an "ad hominem" attack on your part, perhaps?) Do as I say, not as I do, huh?

It was not, in any shape, form or fashion, an "ad hominem" argument...my argument is no matter how skilled or bright a 16 year old child thinks he is...he is "ill-equipped" to coherently discuss topics of which he has limited knowledge and comprehension of.
I am an adult. And I don't know about you, but if my 16 year old son were to try to tell me anything about politics, religion, or matters of importance, I would take what he said with a grain of salt, given his inexperience, his ignorance, and his youth. Children don't know more than their parents, typically. A child of 16, certainly, doesn't know more than I.

An ad hominem argument, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin: "argument to the person", "argument against the man") consists of replying to an argument or factual claim by attacking or appealing to the person making the argument or claim, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument or producing evidence against the claim. It is most commonly used to refer specifically to the ad hominem abusive, or argumentum ad personam, which consists of criticizing or personally attacking an argument's proponent in an attempt to discredit that argument.


"You people"....don't know what that means. (Was that an "ad hominem" attack on your part, perhaps?) Do as I say, not as I do, huh?

It was not, in any shape, form or fashion, an "ad hominem" argument...my argument is no matter how skilled or bright a 16 year old child thinks he is...he is "ill-equipped" to coherently discuss topics of which he has limited knowledge and comprehension of.
I am an adult. And I don't know about you, but if my 16 year old son were to try to tell me anything about politics, religion, or matters of importance, I would take what he said with a grain of salt, given his inexperience, his ignorance, and his youth. Children don't know more than their parents, typically. A child of 16, certainly, doesn't know more than I.

And another thing....
You know "talk" is cheap. Everybody wants to talk about how to make situations better, or what's best for everybody...but people are lacking on solutions.
My question is what have you done, on a personal level, to contribute back to society, other than "lip service"???
Your question to me would be , What have I done?
Well, having no personal disposable income or savings, at the time, I endeavored and researched a fundraiser, held at the Kilworth Manor, in mid-town Houston, in December 2002, entitled, "An Evening at the Manor", featuring performance of my poetry (from my book and other collected works), an in-house performance by the Houston band, Tru Sol, and performances by local artists and poets, including a silent auction (featuring a signed copy of The Cosby Show Retrospective, on DVD, contributed by the show's star, Phylicia Rashad)....all which raised in excess of $15,000 for Children with AIDS outreach program of the Houston AIDS Foundation.

I'm quite confident that is more than anyone else has done on this very board. So can you put your money where your mouth has been?

Calling a logical fallacy isn't ad hominem.

And yes, I know more than you.

Alot more than you.

Why does it matter?

What if I said I've contributed nothing to anyone else, ever?

I am so sick of anti-abortion folk. While I don't favor abortion, I believe it is of no one's concern except the woman in question and her maker. Get out of the business of judgement, and leave that to God...He don't need yours or my help.
And for godssake...abortion is but one concern facing America and the 2008 election. If we're going to vote one party over another on the basis of one issue, we are sorely lacking in our vision, that there are other things equally important, and some that may be much more important that the sole issue surrounding abortion and abortion rights. Get your heads out of the sand.
Self-righteous hypocrites.
You want to put all that energy in saving the fetus, but once it arrives you wash your hands of the responsibility of that child's welfare...then it becomes that of the family, or the state. Yes, you saved the fetus...but what about it's healthcare, nutrition, education, safety, etc.....and you don't have an answer for that. All you have to do is look at the reality....children are being left behind, right and left, falling through the cracks...oh but you saved the fetus, from being aborted.
When the hell on Earth that some of these children have to endure, they would have been better "aborted"...and that's the god's honest truth.