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Bible Party of the USA

 
 
Silverchild79
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 04:45 pm
@Silverchild79,
LA Times;15932 wrote:

41% favored making abortion illegal with a few exceptions.
12% favored making abortion totally illegal.


CBS;15932 wrote:

25% favor no abortion access.


CNN/USA Today/Gallup;15932 wrote:

55% responded sometimes legal
20% always illegal


multiple sources
Volunteer
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 04:48 pm
@Silverchild79,
Silverchild79;15932 wrote:
I already posted this once

U.S. public opinion polls on abortion: Year 2005

all the major polls conducted in 2005, it was the most recent info I can find. While many Americans want certain restrictions placed on abortion (I for one am glad that partial birth was outlawed), the vast majority favor abortion to be kept legal for one reason or another.


There we go. Now I understand. You lack discernment. Are you aware of the bias inherent in any poll based on the views or agenda of the organization sponsoring the poll? If the poll is posted on the organization's web page, the level of suspicion should increase exponentially. Look at the about section and organizational mission of religioustolerance.org. How can you trust their posts or their polls? Get real.
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Volunteer
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 04:49 pm
@Silverchild79,
Silverchild79;15936 wrote:
multiple sources


Multiple sources quoting the same set of data. Same ilk of organization. LA Times? Come on. CNN? Come on. CBS of Dan Rather fame? Come on.
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Silverchild79
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 04:51 pm
@Volunteer,
yes I am fully aware that anything that disagrees with you will in your mind be a fabrication
Volunteer
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 04:53 pm
@Silverchild79,
Silverchild79;15939 wrote:
yes I am fully aware that anything that disagrees with you will in your mind be a fabrication


Not everything. Are you aware that our media is aimed at one thing, selling us things and ideas? It is as polarized as every other part of our society.
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Silverchild79
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 04:57 pm
@Volunteer,
how about the pro Christian/Judaeo right wing Fox news? (which I watch daily BTW)

FOXNews.com - 03/07/06 FOX News Poll: Majority Opposes South Dakota Abortion Law - Polls | AP Polls | Gallup Poll | Opinion Polls


"Fully 83 percent of Americans think abortion should be legal if the pregnancy puts the mother’s life at risk, and another 62 percent think it should be legal if the mother’s mental health is at risk...

...Overall, about half (49 percent) of Americans say on the issue of abortion they are pro-choice and four in 10 (41 percent) say pro-life...

...The South Dakota law is clearly too narrow for many Americans, as more than seven in 10 (74 percent) think abortion should be legal in the cases of rape or incest — including majorities of independents (82 percent), Democrats (79 percent) and Republicans (67 percent)..."

so they're biased liberal secularists too?

face it, your stance is under-evolved and uneducated. I'm tired of spoon feeding you information

you show me a poll that defends your position.
Volunteer
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 05:03 pm
@Silverchild79,
Silverchild79;15941 wrote:
"Fully 83 percent of Americans think abortion should be legal if the pregnancy puts the mother’s life at risk, and another 62 percent think it should be legal if the mother’s mental health is at risk...

...Overall, about half (49 percent) of Americans say on the issue of abortion they are pro-choice and four in 10 (41 percent) say pro-life...

...The South Dakota law is clearly too narrow for many Americans, as more than seven in 10 (74 percent) think abortion should be legal in the cases of rape or incest — including majorities of independents (82 percent), Democrats (79 percent) and Republicans (67 percent)..."

so they're biased liberal secularists too?

face it, your stance is under-evolved and uneducated. I'm tired of spoon feeding you information

you show me a poll that defends your position.


Hey, I thought you were the Master-debater. You just proved my original point. Society has been shaped by the media and the left over the last 40 years to accept things it never would have accepted had it adhered to its core values learned through the WWII years. Why did this happen? I know, your explanation is that society became enlightened.
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Volunteer
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 05:05 pm
@Silverchild79,
I don't need to show a poll. I look at society and see it every day. Your acceptance of abortion in society unless it is your woman is a good example of a lack of criticaility in personal ethics.
Volunteer
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 05:06 pm
@Silverchild79,
Sorry, time to eat and get to bed.
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Silverchild79
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 05:13 pm
@Volunteer,
http://images.quizilla.com/J/jackee/1037956181_-sir-robin.jpg
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Silverchild79
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 05:14 pm
@Silverchild79,
Silverchild79;15912 wrote:
let me ask you something, why do you ignore every quote, document, known fact but which that supports your position

the truth is a puzzle where every piece fits


and you never adressed this
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 05:49 pm
@Volunteer,
'Master Debater'? Ha.
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Silverchild79
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 05:52 pm
@Volunteer,
Volunteer;15945 wrote:
I don't need to show a poll. I look at society and see it every day. Your acceptance of abortion in society unless it is your woman is a good example of a lack of criticality in personal ethics.


Now that is exactly what I didn't say. Your rather good at putting words into other peoples mouths.

What I said was that abortion is something that must be overturned in the classroom rather then the courts. With a lack of public opinion court precedents will merely be overturned by future courts.

The greatest tool against abortion is the truth of abortion. By teaching high school children in detail exactly what an abortion is America will end or limit abortion herself. And if we can stop hiding sex in our society and provide real sexual education, the kind that is proven to reduce teen pregnancy in Europe, then we can start to make it more of a non issue.

Once these things are done I believe America will choose to end most abortion, Rudy Giuliani said it best "In today's society if you end up with an unwanted pregnancy you have failed".

What you purpose to do is impose your theology over an American population that wouldn't pass that as a national ballot measure. You seek Tyranny in the name of God, imposing your will above democracy. It is you who lack critical thinking in this manner. Abortion is a cultural issue far more then a legal one.
Reagaknight
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 07:22 pm
@Silverchild79,
Silverchild79;15950 wrote:
and you never adressed this


Sorry to jump in, but I seem to recall many things that you never address, don't be so quick to criticize.
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Silverchild79
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 08:13 pm
@Volunteer,
if I haven't then it isn't intentional, when someone asks questions of me I'm quick to answer if I notice them. He seems content to ask of me often but never answers mine
Silverchild79
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 08:13 pm
@Volunteer,
and what's up with the dog-pile on the agnostic attitude?
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2007 04:59 am
@Silverchild79,
Silverchild79;15959 wrote:
and what's up with the dog-pile on the agnostic attitude?


What's wrong, 'Master Debater'? Can't you keep up? After all, weren't you some sort of 'captain' of a debate team? Or did you misspell it? Is it supposed to read, "Master Bater"? Just curious.:headbang:
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Silverchild79
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2007 07:17 am
@Volunteer,
hey look it's the name caller, thankx for the spam
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2007 07:42 am
@Volunteer,
Volunteer;15921 wrote:
What church?
Good one, seems some also get blinded by passion?
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2007 07:46 am
@Silverchild79,
Silverchild79;15922 wrote:
If not your church then your Religion

The Totalitarianism of your politics is apparent, you would bend the entire nation to the will of your view of God. Making you no different then the theologies we combat in the Middle East. That fact that you claim "my religion is the right one" changes nothing, Bin Laden would claim that as well.

The country and her politics are about people with differences of opinion finding the common ground and acting, it is not about the "I'm right, your evil" mentality that you display.
Would you be right in a summation that what Extreme terrorists do is Evil? Maybe your trying to do a little bending as well? If you find what they do is Evil does that make you no better?
 

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