A Child's Abortion

It was also confirmed that contraception is a sin and by its confirmation thousands die in Africa.

Millions of RC catholics yes millions use contraceptives every night...

For all have sinned, and do need the glory of God.

Thousands die because of the lack of clean water but the church sits on billions of dollars of wealth and covets its gold eagles as its sanctimonious view on life's value is paraded like some grand crusade against moral corruption..It stinks ..

There are reasons for saying that contraception if a sin. The ban on contraceptives isn't killing people in Africa. Sin is. They are rational moral agents. They have the ability to stop screwing around. They choose not to. Their blood be upon their own heads.

In any case, what do you have against faith driven morality? What if it's right? How can you be positive that it isn't?







The Church is one of the largest humanitarian agencies on the face of the planet.

Your answers are predictable and obnoxious as they are naive.Give me one reason why one ounce of gold should sit in church when one child's life,you know the lives you hold so dear,is in peril through lack of finance.You have no moral authority to condemn us heathens ,when the church would rather drink wine than let its flock drink clean water.Get the behind me, for you words degrade the teachings of love from a man called Jesus.

That "once ounce of gold" is generally a donation by the local laity, given specifically for the purpose of being decorative. If I gave you a watch and I was like "Hey, wear this," and you sold it and purchased a homeless guy a burger, I would rightfully be annoyed.

There can be no archaic doctrine of faith, since these deal primarily with God, Who does not change, and Whose nature is necessary and intrinsic. Granted, there are cases in which God reveals contingent truths to us (like transubstantiation), but they nonetheless cannot be archaic unless God decrees otherwise, since they come from God (and God can only decree otherwise on contingent truths (like transubstantiation...it didn't happen before Christ was born, so far as I a aware)), Whose very name is Truth.

The Church is one of the largest humanitarian agencies on the face of the planet.

i dont actually believe your a real person,well you dont act like a human i could recognise.Ill give you a choice ,you know those big gold eagles you see in cathedrals where the geezer with the expensive robes preaches piety,one of those or a thousand children's lives.Its your decision a gold eagle or a thousand children?

Of course there can be archaic doctrines of faith. Many beliefs before the advent of monotheism would be dubbed, now, archaic doctrines of faith.

What "comes from God" is open for interpretation, and it's clear the "God" notion has changed during the evolution of our species. The doctrine is constructed by us, so of course it will change, and of course it can be flawed, and of course it can have varying interpretation. There is no "necessary and intrinsic nature", whatever this metaphysical nonsense means.

Therefore, if the terrestrial power err, it will be judged by the spiritual power; but if a minor spiritual power err, it will be judged by a superior spiritual power; but if the highest power of all err, it can be judged only by God, and not by man, according to the testimony of the Apostle: 'The spiritual man judgeth of all things and he himself is judged by no man' [1 Cor 2:15]. This authority, however, (though it has been given to man and is exercised by man), is not human but rather divine, granted to Peter by a divine word and reaffirmed to him (Peter) and his successors by the One Whom Peter confessed, the Lord saying to Peter himself, 'Whatsoever you shall bind on earth, shall be bound also in Heaven' etc., [Mt 16:19]. Therefore whoever resists this power thus ordained by God, resists the ordinance of God [Rom 13:2], unless he invent like Manicheus two beginnings, which is false and judged by us heretical, since according to the testimony of Moses, it is not in the beginnings but in the beginning that God created heaven and earth [Gen 1:1]. Furthermore, we declare, we proclaim, we define that it is absolutely necessary for salvation that every human creature be subject to the Roman Pontiff.

By "faith," I understand the data of divine revelation...I don't think that those other doctrines are actually revealed. Except maybe by devils.

I don't think that a true doctrine of faith is man-constructed.

Xris, if your grandfather makes out a will and writes in the will "I leave Xris 20,000 dollars in order that he might purchase a car. This money may not be used in a different fashion," do you have any right to give that money away? No, you either buy the car or forfeit your claim to the money.

Religion is a crime against humanity.

I don't mean that religion is entirely bad, what I mean is that religion has significantly slowed the progress of anything meaningful.

It will always exist, though. If religion didn't exist, we would have no reason to fight over land and resources (though it would be like communism). But then that would also allow people to kill for whatever reason.

But then that would also allow people to kill for whatever reason.

This aggression toward religion (which is pervasive on this forum) is more than hot-headedness -it's dangerous bigotry.

I admire the atheist for his moderation. We theists make an unnecessarily extreme claim when we say that God does exist, and the atheist refrains. But these extreme reactions to religion, simply because one disagrees with what is, essentially, a metaphysical expression, ignites the spark of violent hatred - and all over semantic preference.

Religion has done nothing bad/wrong/ect. That is a fact. Yah wanna know why? Because "religion" has no volition. People, on the other hand, do have volition. When we look for a suspect, we should probably limit our search to those who are capable of committing the crime. Something without volition cannot be quilty of something that requires volition.

Today I seen a segment on cable new's of a a 9-year old child that was raped by her step father and developed twin's. The doctors had told the mother and child that she would die from the pregency.

There family are catholic's and the vatican had ex-comunicated the mother and the child for choosing to have an abortion.

What are your thoughts of this matter?

Religion has done nothing wrong?

then answer my angry questions.

Yes i am angry with the RC church for more than one reason.