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Let see you get a knock on the door at 3 Am and you are told we are here to deport you because forty years ago your parents enter the country illegally or hell maybe your grandparents did so 60 years ago.

The man should had been born in Nazis Germany.

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FRANKFORT, Ky. " Republican Rand Paul has told a Russian TV station that he would like to block citizenship to babies born in the U.S. to illegal immigrants.

The U.S. Senate candidate said in the interview done shortly after his Kentucky primary victory last week that the U.S. shouldn't provide an easy route to citizenship. The interview was done with RT, an English-language station in Russia.

Legislation dubbed the Birthright Citizenship Act was introduced in the House last year seeking to prevent citizenship to babies born to illegal immigrants even though the 14th Amendment to the Constitution guarantees citizenship to everyone born in the U.S.

Campaign chairman David Adams said Friday that Paul stands behind the statement "because illegal immigration is a real problem in this country."

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I honestly can't figure out if he will win. Plenty of dumb people, but it's hard to know if it will be enough.

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@failures art,

I feel as you do.

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Kinda puts another nail in the coffin of the argument that conservatives follow the Constitution.

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@failures art,

Isn't Kentucky a solidly Red State, no matter whom the Republican party nominates?

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@Thomas,

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Isn't Kentucky a solidly Red State, no matter whom the Republican party nominates?

I would hope that my fellow Americans even in the red states are slightly better then to elected someone with Rand Paul outlook on life.

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@Thomas,

There's that chance that the Libertarian Party might throw in a spoiler candidate that might milk valuable votes from Ms. Paul.

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@MontereyJack,

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Kinda puts another nail in the coffin of the argument that conservatives follow the Constitution.

I love/disdain hearing Republicans claim the desire to appoint nonactivist judges who don't dictate their decisions by belief and ideology but make them on the proper interpretation of the Constitution.

Then we get to hear about this type of blatantly obvious unConstitutional nonsense!

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Its a dumb idea on his part, if he plans on passing it the way it is presented here.

I have already said how it could be done and still survive a court challenge, and I will say it again here.

If a pregnant woman comes to the US illegally just to have her baby, we let her. After all, there is nothing wrong with wantng your kids to be US citizens.

HOWEVER, we give her a choice to make.
No matter what she chooses, she is going to be deported.
Her choices are simple...

She can keep the baby and both her AND her baby get deported and the baby does NOT get US citizenship
OR
The baby gets US citizenship, but she never sees the child again. It is taken away from her and placed with another family to grow up.

Since the choice would be totally up to the mother, there is no way that it could be unconstitutional.

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@mysteryman,

Let me explain this in real simple terms the baby had as must rights to his citizenship as you do not one bit less because of the statue of his parents.

The mother or you or all the right wing nuts in Texas or Congress for that matter have no rights at all to removed his citizenship.

You are free to deported his parents and they if they wish to can leaved with the baby however he can enter the US and claimed his citizenship as an adult.

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Rand Paul is a............

great name for the villain in an action film starring a wrestler (especially Stone Cold Steve Austin)

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@mysteryman,

Um... How could that survive a court challenge?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

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Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

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@DrewDad,

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subject to the jurisdiction thereof

They are going to try to play games with the jurisdiction issue however no US court no matter how many right wings judges are places on the courts are at all likely to do anything but laugh at such an argument.

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@BillRM,

Those damn Right-wing Activist judges will try!!

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@tsarstepan,

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Those damn Right-wing Activist judges will try!!

Well the supreme court once rules that no black person could be a citizen even free blacks in the north so who can say for sure!!!!!

As Rand Paul wish to undo the civil rights acts also maybe he will also try to bring back black slavery.

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@DrewDad,

You even needed to ask, DD? MM is Ican's apprentice.

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second cousin of rue paul

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@mags314772,

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...a hell of a lot more intelligent than BillRM, tsarstepan or monterayjack, but then that's not a high hurdle to jump.

Even assuming he had his way on this issue the notion that it would lead to the arrest of someone who was born in this country to immigrants is absurd.

Just as it is absurd to argue that the positions of one candidate, irrespective of what they are, extend to all conservatives or liberals.

But the height of absurdity is the charge that Paul wants to "undo" the civil rights act.

Paul is a Libertarian, and like many of his kind, feels compelled to strictly apply his ideology. In that sense he is refreshingly unpolitical, but he ends up with some impractical and silly conclusions. Never-the-less, he is preferable to the Democratic candidate.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

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Even assuming he had his way on this issue the notion that it would lead to the arrest of someone who was born in this country to immigrants is absurd.

Just as it was absurd that Hitler really did mean his words when it came to Jews or that the Jews who was consider by most Germans as solid citizens at the time would ever be allow to be treated as Hitler wish them to be treated.

In any case Finn my friend that is what "they" are asking the right to deport anyone who had parents here without paperwork and it is not just one man but also a group of men some of who are also in the US congress with him that are trying for this silliness and evilness.

Paul does indeed wish to deport US born citizens who happen to had been born of illegal immigrates and he only retreated somewhat from his words on the civil rights acts when hit by a tide wave of complains over the matter.

Yes, he cannot really mean what he is saying any more then Hitler could now could he and his supporters.

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