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The Jews.

 
 
Brandon9000
 
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Mon 31 Jul, 2006 02:31 am
McTag wrote:
Brandon9000 wrote:
InfraBlue wrote:
My side does't side with terrorists or war pigs.

Were the Zionist terrorists animals?

Your side attacks women and children on purpose, and the Israelis do not. Care to challenge that assertion without changing the subject? And don't tell me about stuff that happened before 1950.


Brandon, you must be aware that hundreds of women and children are dying daily under Israeli bombardment. The best you can say is that the Israelis are caleless that women and children are close to their intended targets. But I think it is worse than that. They kill civilians because they want to depopulate the target areas.

Civilians have died in every war probably since the beginning of time. It isn't at all in the same category with the murdering swine who deliberately assasinate women and children. If you have some evidence that beyond what has always happened in wars, the Israelis are deliberately taregetting babies, present it. I can sure show it for the Palestinians. How about Leon Klinghoffer? Maybe you can justify murdering crippled senior citizens. If the Palestinians ever had a legitimate complaint, and it's not clear that they did, they long ago forfeited it by virtue of their advocates' numerous crimes against humanity.
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McTag
 
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Mon 31 Jul, 2006 02:37 am
Brandon, I sense that we do not have a meeting of minds here. But the information is out there, if you care to read it.
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Brandon9000
 
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Mon 31 Jul, 2006 02:42 am
McTag wrote:
Brandon, I sense that we do not have a meeting of minds here. But the information is out there, if you care to read it.

I respect you, which I can't say about everyone, but unless you can present an argument here, I have to consider that my viewpoint has prevailed.
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McTag
 
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Mon 31 Jul, 2006 03:29 am
I think your viewpoint is a blinkered one. You will not find me an apologist for atrocities committed by muslims, such as you mention. My point is that the State of Israel is pursuing policies which are criminal, and this while seeking sympathy for crimes committed against its citizens.
This is not only chuzpah writ large; it is hypocrisy.
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McTag
 
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Mon 31 Jul, 2006 04:24 am
Brandon9000 wrote:
McTag wrote:
Brandon, I sense that we do not have a meeting of minds here. But the information is out there, if you care to read it.

I respect you, which I can't say about everyone, but unless you can present an argument here, I have to consider that my viewpoint has prevailed.


I offer this in support of my contention that Israel is pursuing a policy of bombing civilians with a view to depopulate South Lebanon (and similar in Gaza):

A field researcher from the American based Human Rights Watch (HRW), Lucy Mair, sent pictures to military experts at the organisation's New York office of munitions being transported to Israel's northern border and fired into Lebanon from howitzers. She was shocked to discover they were cluster munitions.
Mair said researchers on the other side of the border documented an attack using the munitions on the village of Blida last week which killed one person and injured 12 and that the explosives - which disperse after impact - are 'inaccurate and unreliable', and should not be used in populated areas.
Mair, who heads HRW's Jerusalem office, said a disturbing picture was emerging of the use of weapons, fired from air and land, which pointed at best to a lack of due care regarding civilian life and at worst to the direct targeting of civilians.
'The overwhelming impression is that time and time and again civilians are attacked and only civilian infrastructure is targeted. In cases of civilian casualties our investigators have studied, they have not been able to find the presence of Hizbollah rockets or launchers - only civilian targets,' she said.
The group believes the use of cluster munitions in populated areas may violate the prohibition on indiscriminate attacks contained in international humanitarian law. Critics say the law of war requires a distinction between soldiers and civilians, so when an army is using an outdated, unreliable weapon in a populated area it is likely the attack will violate international law.
Regarding reports that Israel was intentionally trying to depopulate a large swathe of territory in the south, Mair said: 'It's hard for us to speak about this. But given there is such a massive displacement, it's difficult to imagine a situation where the population can move back.'
There have also been reports in Lebanon that Israel is using phosphorus munitions, with doctors reporting burn wounds to civilians.


http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/story/0,,1833616,00.html
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Mon 31 Jul, 2006 05:13 am
Posted that yesterday on the "Iran-thread":

Walter Hinteler wrote:
And this photo from today's The Observer (page 27):

http://i7.tinypic.com/21dr2ow.jpg
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cicerone imposter
 
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Mon 31 Jul, 2006 09:40 am
The hypocrisy of the Bush administration is beyond human; they provide cluster bombs to Israel, while telling the world they want a cease fire.

Where are all the world's criminal court? Don't they see the same pictures where children are getting killed? Where's their ethics and conscience?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Mon 31 Jul, 2006 10:16 am
cicerone imposter wrote:

Where are all the world's criminal court? Don't they see the same pictures where children are getting killed? Where's their ethics and conscience?


Well, we don't have a "world criminal court".
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BernardR
 
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Mon 31 Jul, 2006 11:50 pm
Mr.Walter Hinteler- I am afraid you must forgive Mr. Imposter. He gets confused easily. I am sure he is referring to the International Court of the Hague in the Netherlands which was established by the UN sometime after World War II. There are also some other courts in Belgium called criminal courts for the International Community but I don' t think they are used very often.

Of course, it is necessary to point out that the jurisdiction of the court is possible on the basis of consent of all parties involved.

Perhaps Mr. Imposter can read up. I do not think he does that very often!
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McTag
 
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Tue 1 Aug, 2006 06:36 am
More comment about the causes of the current conflict:

"GW Bush: The current conflict in Lebanon "started, out of the blue, with two Israeli soldiers kidnapped and rockets being fired across the border".

I agree that Hizbullah fired the first shots. But out of the blue? Israel's earlier occupation of southern Lebanon; its continued occupation of the Golan Heights; its occupation and partial settlement of the West Bank and gradual clearance of Jerusalem; its shelling of civilians, power plants, bridges and pipelines in Gaza; its beating and shooting of children; its imprisonment or assassination of Palestinian political leaders; its bulldozing of homes; its humiliating and often lethal checkpoints: all these are, in Bush's mind, either fictional or carry no political consequences. .."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,1834553,00.html
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McGentrix
 
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Tue 1 Aug, 2006 06:46 am
Gee, I wonder why they do that McTag?

Quote:
Israel Mourns 4 Children, Mother Murdered in Terror Attack

By Joel Leyden
Israel News Agency

Jerusalem----May 2....Palestinian terrorists murdered 4 young Jewish children and their pregnant mother this afternoon. The terror attack targeted the family vehicle while it was traveling on the road that leads to the Gaza Strip settlement bloc of Gush Katif.

Another Israeli civilian traveling in a separate car suffered moderate gunfire wounds in the attack near the Netzer Hazani settlement.

The terrorists arrived by car from the nearby Palestinian village of Dir al Ballah and began to fire at passing Israeli vehicles, consequently killing the mother and her four children. Another Israeli traveling in the opposite direction, was also wounded.

After spraying the station wagen with bullets, the Palestinian terrorists walked up to the 4 terrified little girls and shot each one of them twice in the head, police said. The 8-month-old pregnant mother was shot in her belly at point blank range as she tried to cover her children

The victims of the attack were identified as Tali Hatuel, 34, and her daughters Hila (11), Hadar (9), Roni (7) and Merav (2). Tali's husband was not in the car at the time of the attack, ynet reported. The Hatuels lived on the Gush Katif settlement of Katif.

An Israel Defense Forces jeep arrived at the scene and engaged in gunfire with the terrorists, killing them. During the gun battle an explosion took place but it was still unclear whether it was caused by a grenade or by a bomb.

Two IDF Givati brigade soldiers were wounded during the gun battle and were airlifted to Soroka hospital in Be'er Sheva together with the Israeli civilian.

Following the terror attack, Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz canceled his participation in the groundbreaking ceremony of the Center of Human Dignity Museum of Tolerance, sponsored by the Simon Wiesenthal Center, in Jerusalem Sunday.

Israel responded with an IDF helicopter attack launching three missiles at a building in Gaza City housing radio stations affiliated with the Hamas terror group and Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat's Fatah party.

The missiles, which hit the top corner of the 14-story building near the radio stations' offices, caved in part of the roof and cut off electricity to the building. The roof's red tiles were blown off and smoke rose through the exposed rafters.

Military sources said the IDF had attacked a Hamas radio station that had been broadcasting messages of incitement.

After the first missile hit, the building shook and glass started flying everywhere, said Fathi Sabbah, an editor at Al Ayyam.

"Everybody was trying to get out ... but then they hit the building again. Glass flew everywhere, and the building shook," he said.

"The blasts were very powerful," said Moin Saraj, 35, a journalist at Al Ayyam.

People ran in panic through the streets after the attack. Ambulances and fire engines raced to the scene.

"I feel the pain of the family and I wish that the wounded will heal," said Prime Minister Ariel Sharon. "Israel will not yield and will continue fighting terror until it is destroyed just like we are fighting it now."

"The disengagement plan is a harsh blow to the Palestinians who will do anything to prevent it from being accepted. The murder was intended to delay and interfere with the plan," he added.

"We will fight terror and do everything possible to prevent such incidents in the future and that is why I am struggling for my plan."

The IDF helicopter attack was most likely the first wave of defensive action taken by Israel.

The terror attack against Israeli children only provided fuel for Jewish leaders in Gaza saying that the attack proves that Likud members must vote against the disengagement plan in order not to give a prize to terrorists.

Meanwhile Sunday, the Israel Likud party referendum on Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's unilateral disengagement plan opened at 8 AM with polls to close at 10 PM. Final results will be announced at 2 AM Monday.

Some 443 polls have been set up for the 193,000 card-carrying Likud members who are eligible to vote. Roughly 1, 300 security guards and police will secure the proceedings throughout the country. 176 lawyers have been tasked with overseeing the vote's legality.

An explosive device was detonated near the site of the shooting while the Israel Defense Forces troops were chasing the terrorists, but it caused no injuries.

Both Hamas and Islamic Jihad and Popular Resistance Committees, an umbrella group, claimed responsibility for the "heroic" attack in a call to The Associated Press.

The resistance committees said the attack was in response to Israel's recent assassinations of the founder of the Hamas militant group, Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, and his successor, Abdel Aziz Rantisi.

"The attack is part of the Palestinian reprisals for the daily crimes committed by the Israeli army against the Palestinian people, especially the killings of Yassin and Rantisi," the group said.

David Hatuel wept in front of five mounds of brown soil, the fresh graves of his pregnant wife and four daughters - his entire family.

"I am all alone, there is no one left," he said in a whisper.

TV footage showed rescue workers sifting through the white Citroen station wagon, a poster reading "A Jewish heart votes no" plastered across the car hood.

A medic wiped blood off a baby seat, two small bright pink shoes lay on the blood-soaked carpet of the bullet-riddled car.

Settlers and opponents of the Sharon plan have said a withdrawal from Gaza would be a reward for attacks like these. A bumper sticker on the back of the car read "Uprooting the settlements - a victory for terror".

At the funeral, David Hatuel apologised to his family for spending so much time away from them campaigning against the plan to uproot the Gaza homes.

"Only on Friday, the girls drew me a picture and said 'Daddy, we are so proud of you for working so hard to save our home," he said, calling his daughters, his "flowers". "Tali," he said, "everything I have, everything I did, I did for her."

Tali Hatuel was a social worker and counselled the families of victims from attacks by Palestinian militants, friends said.

"She was quiet and shy ... she was a very serious person," her neighbour Ezra Haidu said.

In Gaza City, about 1,500 people joined an Islamic Jihad march celebrating the barbaric attack. Islamic Jihad said the attack was in response to Israel's assassination of Hamas leader Sheik Ahmed Yassin and Abdel Aziz Rantisi.

"The goal of this attack was to confirm the continuation of the resistance," said Khader Habib, an Islamic Jihad leader in Gaza.

The spotlight is now on PA Chairman Yasser Arafat as many Israeli sources consider him next in line for assassination after master terrorists Yassin and Rantisi were killed by Israeli security. Arafat, who signed the Oslo Peace Accords and agreed to the US brokered Road Map peace plan, has broken these commitments by not confronting terror organizations under his control. Recently Arafat ordered 20 wanted terrorists to leave his home in Rahmallah fearing an immediate Israeli attack against him.

Settlement leader Yehoshua Mor-Yosef said the dead were all Gush Katif residents. A resident of Gush Katif settlement Kfar Darom said the family was on its way to campaign against Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's disengagement plan. The attack took place the same day as the party referendum on the pullout from the Gaza Strip and parts of the West Bank.

Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz canceled scheduled appearances Sunday and planned to convene with top security officials to plan a response to the attack, military sources said.

Opponents and proponents of the disengagement plan interpreted the attack according to their respective political convictions, with Likud MK Yuval Steinitz saying the attack did not make the plan any less necessary and Likud MK Ehud Yatom saying the attack must enhance the fierce opposition to disengagement.

The attack was the first to kill civilians in Gaza in more than a year.

Israel MK Ehud Yatom, who opposes PM Sharon's disengagement plan, stated: "The purpose of the attack is to create a situation where the surrender to terrorism and escape come sooner. Therefore, Likud voters' response to terrorism must be opposition to the surrender plan".

Israel Minister Yisrael Katz said that the attack should not be linked to the disengagement poll, but added: "The attack reinforces the Chief of Staff's claim that disengagement gives terrorism a backwind".

MK Uri Ariel (National Union) demanded forceful action against the terrorists. "I demand that the Defense Minister order the demolition of houses on both sides of the Kissufim road and that the High Court of Justices refrains from again delaying action that is essential to the security of Israeli citizens", he said.

Israeli Minister Gideon Ezra, who does support the PM's plan, said: "Our hearts are with the Katif Block residents. The poll today is intended to address exactly those painful issues. The government is obligated to protect its citizens, to fight terrorism, and to remain only in places optimal for us".

Ezra added: "The Gaza region is protected by a fence, and whoever gets near it will by killed. We are obligated to go along with the Prime Minister, the Chief of Staff, and the chiefs of the GSS and of IDF Intelligence, who know better than all of us".

Palestinian terrorists repeatedly use their own children as suicide bombers and as human shields when attacking Israelis and have intentionally targeted Israeli children in recent months. Matan, 5, and Noam Ohion, 4, and their mother were shot and murdered by a Palestinian terrorist at Kibbutz Metzer in central Israel last November. The terrorists walked into the child's bedroom and shot the children as they were sitting in their beds.

Security sources said the body of the boys' mother, Revital, 34, was riddled with bullets, apparently because she had tried to shield her children as the gunman burst into the children's room.

The terrorist burst in as the mother was reading the children a bedtime story.The Islamic madman then killed two more Israelis at the kibbutz before escaping in the dark. Dozens of Israeli children have been murdered and hundreds injured on public buses and in restaurants which were targets for Palestinian terrorism. In April of 2002, both Israeli senior citizens and their small grandchildren were slaughtered when a Palestinian terrorist blew up the Park Hotel in Netanya, killing 29 Jews in what's referred to as the Passover Massacre.

Yasser Arafat, who was born in Egypt, claims that "Palestine" is occupied and that "armed resistance" is the only solution to ending the "occupation." The West Bank was Jordan and Gaza was Egypt prior to the 1967 Israel Arab war. When Palestinians claim that Palestine is occupied, they are not referring to Nablus, Jenin or Rahmallah, they are directly referring to all of the land between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean - the State of Israel.

Many Israeli and world leaders believe that regional stability will not be realized until Arafat has been expelled or assassinated and replaced with a Palestinian leader who will confront terror, create jobs for Palestinians and seek a true and lasting peace between Israel and the Palestinians.

Eight Israelis and one Belgian who are victims of terrorism have filed a lawsuit in Brussels charging Yasser Arafat with "genocide, murder and crimes against humanity."

The suit was organized by the Terror Victims Association of Israel.

Oscar Gudlovitch, the Belgian involved in the suit who claims he was wounded when PLO terrorists attacked a Brussels synagogue in 1982, said that until now, he "was afraid to file any legal action against Arafat."

Meanwhile, at a press conference to announce the suit, Meir Indor, chief of the Terror Victims Association, said the action gives the international community "a chance to put Arafat where he rightfully belongs - in prison for mass murder, and not in the parlors of Europe receiving prizes for peace."

Yaacov Rubin, a lawyer for the group, said he believes the world media is generally anti-Israel.

"The world press will now have to face the terrible genocide that Arafat has waged for 30 years against the Jewish people," he said in Brussels.

Paris criminal lawyer Robert Goldnadel will also represent the group. Both attorneys will work on a voluntary basis and are not charging fees for their service. Yehudit Shahor - who became a lawyer after her son was murdered by terrorists in Wadi Kelt - is also assisting the other attorneys, the Jerusalem Post newspaper said last week.

In Brussels representing the 30 Israeli signatories to the suit were Hanna Maoz, whose daughter was one of 15 killed in the Sbarro Pizzeria bombing in Jerusalem Aug. 9; Yisrael Liebman, whose brother was murdered in the settlement of Yitzhar; Frida Sweri, whose daughter, son and son-in-law were killed in a drive-by shooting near Beit Horon; Irena Rudin, whose daughter was killed in the Dolphinarium suicide-bombing in Tel Aviv; and Aryeh Bosnah, who was wounded in a 1974 PLO attack on a school in Maalot.

Officials with TVA say they have evidence that directly links Arafat to a number of terrorist attacks committed by groups such as Fatah, Force 17, Hamas and the Islamic Jihad.

The suit charges Arafat "with murders which he ordered and which were carried out by members of organizations which Arafat controls," according to a statement issued on the group's website.

The suit also charges Arafat's assistants - Mohammed Dahlan, Marwan Barghoutti and Jibril Rajoub - with murder and genocide.

Arafat's crimes transcend the murder of Jews.

Yassir Arafat has compiled a record of atrocities which would be the envy of past war criminals. If one compiles a list in date order from the PLO's inception in 1964, specifying all those attacks which were ordered by Arafat. From the blowing-up of planes, through thousands of terrorist attacks, ordering the execution of American Ambassador to Sudan, Cleo No'l, charges des affaires George Moore and the Belgium aid, Guy Eid in Khartoum.

During the 12 year Civil War in Lebanon, caused by Yassir Arafat's assuming power through terror, his terrorists committed mass murder. Whole villages of Christians like Damour were massacred, chopped into pieces with machetes. Out of the 30,000 Christians, 10,000 were slaughtered by Arafat's PLO. The town was then occupied and kept as Arafat's stronghold. David Shipler of the New York Times wrote the story of Damour June 21, 1982. There were individual murders. One horrific, but typical, example is when the Muktar (leader) of a village refused to be cooperative with Arafat and his terrorists. The Muktar's teenage daughter was abducted and raped. Her breasts were cut off and she was delivered to the doorstep of her father in a sack.

In any hospital controlled by Arafat's terrorists, captured Christians became live blood banks for wounded Palestinians. Israeli soldiers who captured these hospitals found bodies drained of all their blood and stacked, like cordwood, in the hallways.

As of late September 2003, according to the head of Israeli military intelligence, Maj.-Gen. Zeevi-Farkash, Arafat orders for terrorist attacks were actually coming directly from Arafat's headquarters.

More recently, Yasser Arafat's Fatah faction of the PLO shot and killed George Khoury (20) as he was jogging in Jerusalem's French Hill neighborhood. Khoury was the son of an Israel Arab lawyer who has for years championed the "Palestinian" effort to build a state in the Land of Israel, and who has represented terror suspects in Israeli courts.

Arafat, in a clear racist gesture, stated that this was a case of mistaken identity - because their victim turned out to be an Arab instead of a Jew.

Nearly 30 years ago, Arab terrorists murdered Khoury's grandfather in downtown Jerusalem.

After the terror attack, Arafat personally called Khoury's father, Elias, to apologize for the "accidental" killing, confirming to many the conviction that the terror chief is personally responsible for acts of terrorism that have claimed hundreds of lives on both sides.

The U.S. State Department has renewed a $5 million reward for information leading to the arrest or conviction of those involved in the terror attack of a U.S. diplomatic convoy in Gaza last October.

The October 15 roadside terror bombing killed three American security personnel working for the U.S. military contractor DynCorp as they guarded American diplomats traveling into Gaza to interview Palestinians who were candidates for Fulbright Scholarship grants.

Israel News Agency


The continued defense of terrorists who kill and main and destroy so much sickens me. There is no reason to defend them, they are monsters of their own making and deserve nothing more then our spit on their graves.
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McTag
 
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Tue 1 Aug, 2006 07:00 am
If you read what I post, you will be able to see that I am not condoning criminal acts. I am writing to show that the "terrorists" and those whom the claim to represent, the Palestinians, are the victims of state crime perpetrated by Israel.
The perpetual cry of "They are terrorists, we are only doing what is necessary to defend ourselves" is a plain perversion of the truth.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Tue 1 Aug, 2006 10:09 am
McT, You're expressing my feelings and opinions perfectly; keep up the good work. I'm behind you 100 percent!
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BernardR
 
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Thu 3 Aug, 2006 01:15 am
If you are correct, Mr. McTag then the UN should NOT send troops to form a buffer zone INSIDE Lebanon, but rather shoulld make a zone inside Israel- the perpetrators of, as you call it--"State Crime"

We shall see which option the UN chooses!!
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McTag
 
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Thu 3 Aug, 2006 02:48 am
BernardR wrote:
If you are correct, Mr. McTag then the UN should NOT send troops to form a buffer zone INSIDE Lebanon, but rather shoulld make a zone inside Israel- the perpetrators of, as you call it--"State Crime"

We shall see which option the UN chooses!!


That is an interesting if flawed concept. You have a fecund mind, Bern. You should put it to good use sometimes. :wink:
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McTag
 
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Thu 3 Aug, 2006 02:54 am
BernardR wrote:
If you are correct, Mr. McTag then the UN should NOT send troops to form a buffer zone INSIDE Lebanon, but rather shoulld make a zone inside Israel- the perpetrators of, as you call it--"State Crime"

We shall see which option the UN chooses!!


So you propose the UN should secure Israel's borders (which ones- those of the UN's choosing?) and form a buffer zone inside.

I wonder how well that would play in Tel Aviv.
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Foxfyre
 
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Thu 3 Aug, 2006 07:10 am
McTag wrote:
BernardR wrote:
If you are correct, Mr. McTag then the UN should NOT send troops to form a buffer zone INSIDE Lebanon, but rather shoulld make a zone inside Israel- the perpetrators of, as you call it--"State Crime"

We shall see which option the UN chooses!!


So you propose the UN should secure Israel's borders (which ones- those of the UN's choosing?) and form a buffer zone inside.

I wonder how well that would play in Tel Aviv.


If Israel was firing rockets at its neighbors just trying to destroy something or somebody, anybody, or sending terrorists among the enemy to blow something up, then yes. The UN or somebody should definitely secure Israel's borders and Israel shouldn't have any say in how that was done. Israel hasn't been doing that however.

I still can't see how your anger is directed at Israel instead of at Hezbollah who intentionally makes targets of women and children.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Thu 3 Aug, 2006 08:56 am
Fox, You're behind the times. Israel has neglected UN resolutios 242 and 338 by staying in occupied territories, and have killed hundreds of Palestinians in controvention of UN mandates.


It's interesting how Israel continues to mention UN resolution 1559 without any of their own breaking of international laws.
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Brandon9000
 
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Thu 3 Aug, 2006 09:26 am
cicerone imposter wrote:
Fox, You're behind the times. Israel has neglected UN resolutios 242 and 338 by staying in occupied territories, and have killed hundreds of Palestinians in controvention of UN mandates.


It's interesting how Israel continues to mention UN resolution 1559 without any of their own breaking of international laws.

They don't, however, firebomb school buses, or make a regular practice of intentionally targetting non-combatants. Rather, that is what is done to them, and they respond as they must.
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Brandon9000
 
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Thu 3 Aug, 2006 09:28 am
Quote:
War is the only way to respond to terrorism
Wednesday, July 26, 2006


From the Assistant Editor
Jonathan Friedman

Two weeks ago, Hezbollah terrorists crossed the Israeli border from Lebanon and killed eight Israeli soldiers and kidnapped two. Israel has responded with an aggressive attack on the Hezbollah strongholds in Southern Lebanon. Many Lebanese civilians have died. This is because Hezbollah, like most terrorist groups, hides among the people. Civilian casualties are inevitable.

Hezbollah, which practically runs Southern Lebanon as a state within a state, has retaliated with rocket attacks on Northern Israel. Civilians have died in Israel too. Hezbollah leaders claim they are aiming only for Israeli military targets. Even if that is true, which I doubt it is, its rockets have terrible aim and it is impossible to say they are headed for a specific target.

As the war continues, many members of the mainstream media continue to ask the same ridiculous question: Is Israel's attack on Lebanon disproportionate to what the Hezbollah terrorists did to trigger the conflict? The answer, of course, is yes. But this is because Israel is trying to severely diminish the strength of a terrorist group that has killed more than 800 people around the world in its two-decade history, an organization the Lebanese government is either unable or unwilling to control.

Israel is responding to a terrorist group's actions within its borders the same way the United States acted following the Sept. 11 attacks. The U.S. responded to the incident on its soil by destroying Al Qaeda strongholds in Afghanistan and toppling the government that protected the terrorist group. Obviously, Al Qaeda was not completely annihilated, but much of its infrastructure was, and now its members are scattered throughout the world, less of a threat than they were prior to Sept. 11.

Few people, even those who dislike the current American government, said the U.S. was wrong to attack Afghanistan. So why are so many people not giving that same support to Israel? The Jewish state might not be able to completely eliminate Hezbollah, but with its current operation, Israel can severely weaken it.

There are those who say Israel should immediately stop its military operation and begin talking with the enemy. Talk with whom exactly? Hezbollah, which was created to kick Israeli soldiers out of southern Lebanon but still attacked Israel after it withdrew from Lebanon six years ago? The Lebanese government that has no control over Hezbollah? Or the governments of Syria and Iran, which supply Hezbollah with its weapons so it can do their dirty work?

One last thing to mention is regarding the civilian casualties in Lebanon. When the media give the estimates on the number of Lebanese killed, only sometimes do they mention those numbers are coming from the Lebanese government. How do we know those numbers are accurate? I am not suggesting the Lebanese government is working in coordination with Hezbollah, but the Lebanese government has been trying to portray Israel as an aggressor destroying its country, and therefore has a motive for overestimating civilian deaths.

Also, it is never reported how many of the dead are actually innocent civilians and how many are Hezbollah terrorists. Knowing those numbers is important since the killing of civilians is tragic and the killing of terrorists is one of the goals of the operation.


Source
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