Guns: how much longer will it take ....

It's nothing to do with fear. We just love freedom.

When are you guys going to ban lorries then?

We. Are Americans. We don't have any lorries here.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/20/trump-signs-a-memo-telling-attorney-general-sessions-to-ban-devices-that-turn-weapons-into-machine-guns.html

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(what's with that old-school font?)

I like how he blames Obama for being more permissive on guns than Trump is willing to be. Too funny.

He can blame anyone he wants as long as he does something meaningful.

I agree, I’m all in favor.....just wonder how he’s going to sell this to the Trumpites. It will be fun to watch.

Trump's giving way on bump stocks, but so far not the gun used in Florida.

Gabby Giffords, former Democratic representative from Arizona, is understandably angry after yet another school shooting left 17 people dead and many more wounded in Florida last week. But in an email to supporters titled “Here’s how we beat the gun lobby,” she explains how voters have the power to hold the gun lobby—and the politicians it backs—accountable:

Speaking is still physically difficult for me, but my feelings are clear: I am furious.

We have watched, time and time again, as people describe these mass shootings as unimaginable and unpreventable acts of evil.

But we all know that is not true.

We have seen them before, and we will see them again. And what angers me most is that Congress knows how to solve this problem.

Bernie Sanders has fought to reduce the epidemic levels of gun violence in this country. And at the end of the day, both of us know that the root of this issue lies in the outrageous amounts of money the corporate gun lobby spends buying candidates and elected officials.

So if we want to change the equation, that means Congress must realize they have more to fear from all of us standing together and acting than they do from the gun lobby’s money. …

For decades now, the gun lobby has used its power and influence to instill fear into the hearts of legislators in Congress and state capitals across our country.

But that fear is nothing like what those students fleeing Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School must have felt as they ran out of the building with their hands in the air as officers ran toward them with their guns drawn.

That fear is nothing like what the children and teachers must have felt at Sandy Hook Elementary School, or the club goers felt in Orlando, or the holiday party attendees felt in San Bernardino as shots rang out all around them.

What those legislators who vote to put the profits of manufacturers ahead of the safety of our communities really feel is cowardice.

They look at the most benign and practical solutions offered by moderates from each party and then they look over their shoulder at the powerful, shadowy gun lobby and choose to do nothing.

This November, we are going to vote them out. But it will only happen if we stand together. And that starts with making your voice heard.

Giffords concludes by asking voters to sign the “Vote Courage” pledge, which she created with Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt.

They do if they're magic pistol grips! Perhaps outlawing magic pistol grips is the answer.

Well , no matter what, its a kind of a start. I hope oralloy doesnt suffer a stroke over this , the USSC , in Heller decision, stated in the affirmative that the second amendment is open for reasonable changes. I guess we have to make sure the definition of reasonable passes the court.

God you're tedious. Lorries aren't just used for killing people. They have other uses, and the amount of deliberate murders by involving lorries pales into insignificance next to victims of shooting in America.

The World can never be completely safe, but you can take common sense measures like not letting frightened little men set the public debate.

You're just running around in circles, it's quite pathetic. Stop being a slave to your own fears and act like a bloody grown up.

You have things that rhyme with swear words instead so your poetry is more risqué.

A little bit too risqué if you ask me.

So what is it that you think should be banned?

Stupid bloody questions.

It's America's problem, it's down to Americans to sort it out. I'm happy with our gun laws and our low homicide rate. Are you happy with yours?

Oh, I'm sorry. I just thought that since you were posting in a thread called--never mind.

Sell what? The NRA gave the government permission to ban bump stocks via executive order (but not via legislative statute) right after the Las Vegas massacre.

This permission has not been withdrawn, so the government is not in any trouble here.

The NRA also just gave permission for the legislature to pass some kind of new law about reporting people to the background check database. I'm too busy watching Olympics to read up on what it is exactly however. But I'm sure that the NRA would not give the government permission to do anything Constitutionally questionable.

Hopefully the legislation will be linked to the SHARE Act or something.

No one is ever going to give way on pistol grips.

But feel free to sabotage any current gun control effort by making it all about pistol grips again. You guys did a wonderful job of helping the NRA to defeat you the last time around.

Why would you think I would have a stroke over an issue that I've explained to you more than 100 times over the years?

Nothing has changed with Strict Scrutiny. The rules are the same as they were the last time around.