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Guns: how much longer will it take ....

 
 
Region Philbis
 
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Reply Fri 6 Sep, 2024 07:22 am
Quote:
Colin Gray, the father of Apalachee High School shooting suspect Colt Gray, allegedly gave his son a firearm
“with knowledge he was a threat to himself and others,” according to the father’s arrest warrant affidavit.

Colin Gray, 54, is charged with four counts of involuntary manslaughter, two counts of second-degree murder
and eight counts of cruelty to children, the affidavit states.

His 14-year-old son faces four counts of felony murder after Wednesday’s mass shooting in Winder, Georgia.
(cnn)
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Fri 6 Sep, 2024 07:25 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
According to JD Vance, reality of school shootings is a bleak ‘fact of life’.
he wants people in this country to make more babies.

when they reach school age, go ahead and put them in harm's way, because 'murrka'...
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 14 Oct, 2024 06:30 am
Quote:
NRA chief involved in gruesome cat killing as college fraternity member
Doug Hamlin pleaded no contest to animal cruelty over 1979 incident in which fraternity cat was tortured and killed

Douglas Hamlin, who was appointed to lead the NRA this summer in the wake of a long-running corruption scandal at the gun rights group, was involved decades ago in the sadistic killing of a fraternity house cat named BK, according to several local media reports at the time.

Hamlin pleaded no contest to a misdemeanor charge of animal cruelty brought against him and four of his fraternity brothers in 1980, when he was an undergraduate student at the University of Michigan at Ann Arbor. The charge was brought against Hamlin under a local Ann Arbor ordinance. All five members of Alpha Delta Phi were later expelled from the fraternity.

The details of the case, described in local media reports at the time, are gruesome. The house cat was captured, its paws were cut off, and was then strung up and set on fire. The killing, which occurred in December 1979, was allegedly prompted by anger that the cat was not using its litterbox.

The case caused such a furore locally that some students and animal rights activists wore buttons and armbands in memory of BK.

Hamlin served as the fraternity president at the time, according to the media reports. While Hamlin’s exact role in the killing is unclear, a report in the Ann Arbor News published in March 1980 – at the time of the court case – said that district court judge SJ Elden singled Hamlin out for criticism, saying he could have prevented it from happening as the leader of the fraternity.

The judge called the cat killing an “unconscionable and heinous” act and suggested the fraternity had tried to engage in a coverup to protect its members after the crime was exposed.

“Heartlessness must be in the job description to run the NRA,” said Nick Suplina, senior vice president for law and policy at Everytown for Gun Safety. “This revelation shows that the NRA has failed to turn the page on its scandal-plagued leaders and its doom spiral continues with Hamlin at the helm.”

One of the fraternity brothers who was charged at the time and spoke to the Guardian on the condition that his name would not be used said the incident had been “regrettable” and “not a good chapter for anybody”.

The Guardian contacted Hamlin through multiple spokespersons at the NRA and tried to reach Hamlin by phone but did not receive any response to questions about the incident.

Shelagh Abbs Winter, who was named in a media report as the student who reported the incident to authorities at the time, told the Guardian she recalled many of the details, including that she had felt compelled to report the incident to authorities after she learned what had happened from another student who was a pledge at the fraternity.

Winter was and remains an animal rights activist, and expressed surprise when she was contacted by the Guardian for this story, because she had not followed Hamlin’s career nor realized that the 1979 incident would still be personally relevant decades later.

“You don’t know how amazing this is to me, because I am a member of Moms Demand Action,” she said, referring to one of the most influential grassroots gun control advocacy groups in the country, which has proved to be a thorn in the side of the NRA. Winter said she remembered feeling threatened at the time for coming forward.

“Once a creep, always a creep,” she said.

A cook who worked at the fraternity at the time and asked not to be named said he recalled speaking to police and never returning back to work because he feared reprisal. “After it was disclosed that the police were investigating, a meeting was called, and the members were told to say nothing; not to cooperate; and not to, essentially, give up their brothers,” the person told the Guardian.

According to press reports, the charges were ultimately expunged from the men’s records after they completed 200 hours each of animal-related community service.

Hamlin was elected by the NRA’s board to serve as CEO in July. After graduating from college, Hamlin joined the Marine Corps and later began working at the gun rights group, serving as executive director of its publications division.

Hamlin’s promotion followed a New York judge’s ruling that the longtime head of the NRA, Wayne LaPierre, would be barred from holding a paid position with the group after a jury found him guilty of misspending millions of dollars in NRA funds for his own benefit.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/14/nra-doug-hamlin-cat-killing
hightor
 
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Reply Mon 14 Oct, 2024 06:50 am
@izzythepush,
Horrifying – yet not all that surprising. As the person who originally reported the crime said, “Once a creep, always a creep.”



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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Wed 26 Mar, 2025 10:02 am

CNN News Alert:
Supreme Court upholds rules requiring background checks for 'ghost guns'

The Supreme Court on Wednesday upheld Biden-era federal regulations on “ghost guns,” mail-order kits that allow
people to build untraceable weapons at home – handing gun control groups a rare win at the conservative high court.

Justice Neil Gorsuch wrote the opinion for a 7-2 majority that included both liberal and conservative justices in one
of the most closely watched Supreme Court cases of the year.
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thack45
 
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Reply Fri 28 Mar, 2025 11:52 am
In 2017, after Stephen Paddock shot over 1000 rounds and killed 60 Americans from the broken out windows of his 32nd floor Las Vegas hotel room, the death count and other factors of the incident were terrifying enough to get a ban on "bump stock" gun modification accessories, a much more significant action than anything following a paltry 10 or 20 Americans randomly shot dead in public. BUT, just last year, the Supreme Court overturned that rule, and remains in the majority committed to the narrative that gun-entitlement is a right.

But before the bump stock ban, those old "mental illness" (and iirc, video games) angles were trotted back out by the gun-entitlement groups and then-president Trump.

Now, seven years later, again-president Trump has cut over 11 billion in funding for health services which address, among other things, mental health care. And just like the other agencies where Trump's administration has cut jobs and funding, it was a kneecapping, with no plans in place to unwind or sunset programs while Americans are currently involved with them – in perfect keeping with the easy-answers approach to governing that just enough voters preferred.

So for now, to justify cuts, we can victim-blame people who struggle with things like mental illness, and judges can credulously agree with well funded arguments that some things that can kill people can't kill people. Those are the easy answers. But next time there's a big one, and we're once again in the same old arguments with proponents of gun-entitlement, remember who decided that doing nothing was cheaper and easier, and why.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 1 Apr, 2025 12:01 pm
This ain't America, look what happens when you try open carry over here.


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Man shot dead by police at Milton Keynes train station
Officers responded to reports of person carrying firearm, Thames Valley police say as IOPC launches investigation

A man has been shot dead by police responding to reports of a person carrying a firearm at Milton Keynes railway station.

Thames Valley police (TVP) officers were called to the station by members of the public at 12.55pm on Tuesday. The man was shot by police in the station square outside the building and died at 1.44pm.

At 2.26pm, about an hour and a half after TVP officers arrived on the scene, the Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) launched an investigation into the incident after being contacted by the force.

The force said: “Officers from Thames Valley police and British Transport Police were called to reports of a man carrying a firearm at Milton Keynes railway station, Elder Gate, Milton Keynes, at 12.55pm today.

“Armed officers from Thames Valley police responded and challenged the man, before shots were fired by police. Life-saving actions were immediately taken at the scene, but the man was pronounced dead at 1.44pm.

“There is not believed to be any further risk to the public at this time. We will provide more details as soon as we are able to.”

A spokesperson for the police watchdog, who described the investigation as being “in its very early stages”, said: “We were notified by TVP shortly after the incident and IOPC investigators have been sent to the station and the police post incident procedure to begin gathering information.

“Our thoughts are with the family of the man who died and all those who have been affected by this incident. Our role in these circumstances is to independently investigate all of the circumstances surrounding this incident including the actions and decisions taken by the police.”

Shivani Sharma, a reporter from LBC, said a witness told her “he heard screaming back and forth for around 30 minutes and the man refused to drop to the ground”.

British Transport Police officers were also on scene. A spokesperson said: “BTP received a report from Thames Valley police at 1pm today, of a man carrying a firearm at Milton Keynes station.

“Armed officers from Thames Valley Police responded and he was shot and pronounced dead outside of the station. BTP officers are on scene to assist our colleagues from TVP, and the station is open as normal.”

A witness told the Daily Mail they would have nightmares after seeing the “shocking” scene outside the station.

“I was having my coffee and I saw a police Volvo arrive, they said. “I heard a pop – I used to work with firearms in private security, I knew it wasn’t a car backfiring or anything.

“When I went out people were crowding around and I could see the hole in his stomach and blood gushing out. They turned him to look for an exit wound and then laid him flat and started doing compressions. I heard him gasping.”

Police put a cordon in place around the area and several entrances to the station were closed off. London Northwestern Railway said there had been no impact on services.


https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/apr/01/man-shot-dead-by-police-at-milton-keynes-train-station
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