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Guns: how much longer will it take ....

 
 
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 20 Feb, 2018 07:47 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
Lorries aren't just used for killing people. They have other uses,

Hey, just like guns!

Self defense guns are not for killing. They are for rapid incapacitation of an aggressor before harm is done to you.

Hunting guns are not for killing people. They are for killing game animals.

And notice how the Olympic medalists in biathlon haven't killed a single person.


izzythepush wrote:
the amount of deliberate murders by involving lorries pales into insignificance next to victims of shooting in America.

Think of all the lives lost to car accidents that would be saved if we barred private cars from public roads.


izzythepush wrote:
common sense

Every single time someone argues against civil rights or supports fascism, they always invoke common sense.

It must be an unknown aspect of the laws of physics or something.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 20 Feb, 2018 07:49 pm
@Glennn,
Glennn wrote:
They do if they're magic pistol grips! Perhaps outlawing magic pistol grips is the answer.

Very Happy
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Glennn
 
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Reply Tue 20 Feb, 2018 07:54 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
No one is ever going to give way on pistol grips.

I really don't understand everyone's irrational fear of the pistol-grip. It's pretty ridiculous. It's right up there on par with the idea that it was Snidely Whiplash's curly mustache that made him a villain.
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Glennn
 
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Reply Tue 20 Feb, 2018 08:21 pm
And you can always tell when the masses have fallen for the media propaganda targeting their emotions when they appear oblivious to the fact that the rate of U.S. murders by rifles is about 453 per year, while the rate of murders by knives, clubs, fists and feet is more than seven times that.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Tue 20 Feb, 2018 08:47 pm
@Glennn,
Not to mention smothering them with bullshit.
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 20 Feb, 2018 08:53 pm
@edgarblythe,
What exactly was inaccurate about his facts?
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Glennn
 
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Reply Tue 20 Feb, 2018 08:58 pm
And you can always tell when an individual has fallen for the media propaganda targeting their emotions when they appear oblivious to the fact that the rate of U.S. murders by rifles is about 453 per year, while the rate of murders by knives, clubs, fists and feet is more than seven times that.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 20 Feb, 2018 09:25 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
The NRA gave the government permission to ban bump stocks via executive order (but not via legislative statute) right after the Las Vegas massacre
.

say what?
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Tue 20 Feb, 2018 09:59 pm
@Glennn,
And mass murders, like most of the school shootings, are done with semi-auto or full UTO (BUMP STOCKS) RIFLS, NOTABLY THE WANNA-BE ASSAULT RIFLES like CRUZ's AR15. Becaue I think the deranged guys who do them just think they look so badass that they just have to use them.
Glennn
 
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Reply Tue 20 Feb, 2018 10:13 pm
@MontereyJack,
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Becaue I think the deranged guys who do them just think they look so badass that they just have to use them.

I don't know what that has to do with the fact that rifles are low on the list of means of murder in the U.S.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 21 Feb, 2018 12:00 am
@izzythepush,
Great Britain averaged 5 fatalities a DAY in 2016 due to the dangerous menace of lorries. I don't know how you guys can stand by and allow that many of your country men to just be slaughtered all willy-nilly like that and not have the balls to put in some common sense anti-lorry measures!

Maybe install a speed governor capped at 25kmph? That would certainly help!
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Wed 21 Feb, 2018 12:07 am
@McGentrix,
We've spent a century making cars and trucks safer. We've spent that century making guns more deadly.
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Wed 21 Feb, 2018 12:30 am
@McGentrix,
Violvo has promsed a zero fatality caxr by 2020, which alkso means it will cause zero fatality thru things like pedestrian braking radar now in its early stages, so the car won't accidentally cause a death either. Think Remington por Bushmaster or the guys who make the AR15 clones sill ever offer that protection> Dream on. All they want to do is kill you.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 21 Feb, 2018 03:46 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
oralloy wrote:
The NRA gave the government permission to ban bump stocks via executive order (but not via legislative statute) right after the Las Vegas massacre.

say what?

I'm unsure what you are questioning, so am unsure how to clarify.
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Glennn
 
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Reply Wed 21 Feb, 2018 08:38 am
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
And mass murders, like most of the school shootings, are done with semi-auto or full UTO

Which mass shootings were done with an automatic weapon?

And did you know that shotguns are used for murder more than rifles are? Why are you not crusading against them, too?
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Wed 21 Feb, 2018 09:21 am
@Glennn,
Quote:

Which mass shootings were done with an automatic weapon?


Las Vegas, via bump stocks. Now that they're readily availabl.e and widely publicized, expect to see more.

.realize, Glennn, you, like oralloy, are trying to defend the indefensible

REmember Australia, which banned semi-autos too. It worked. And only the out and out gun loonies maintain they aren't free, and now, since the ban are, still alive as opposed to the hundred thousand or so killed here in the same period of time, who ARE NOT still alive here because we lack Australia's cojone.
Glennn
 
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Reply Wed 21 Feb, 2018 09:47 am
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
Las Vegas, via bump stocks.

Are you telling me that using a bump stock is equivalent to an automatic rifle?
Quote:
you, like oralloy, are trying to defend the indefensible

It's obvious that you have decided to ignore the fact that seven times more murders are committed with fists, feet, knives, and clubs than with rifles (even the ones with the godawful pistol grip). Your omission of that detail in your dishonest attempt to villify me is indefensible.

And what about those evil shotguns being more the weapon of choice of murderers than rifles are? Why aren't you fixating on those, too? You appear to be on a miguided social crusade, hovering over dead bodies like a vulture, and then preying on people's emotions in an attempt to punish the rest of society for what a few demented individuals have done.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Wed 21 Feb, 2018 09:51 am
A man died from old age the other day. Prro we don't need gun control? Or a ruse to divert us from the real issue, which is the kids getting killed don't give a crap about all these arguments and excuses. They want to go to school without getting shot.
Glennn
 
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Reply Wed 21 Feb, 2018 09:58 am
@edgarblythe,
What do you suggest?
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 21 Feb, 2018 11:18 am
Whatever happened to the home of the brave?

Why are there so many frightened middle aged white guys sat at home cowering behind their guns?

They bang on about freedom but Oralloy is too frightened to leave the country.

Talk about being a slave to your fears, it's a bloody joke.

More importantly why does anyone take these sorry inadequates seriously?

Children's lives are far more important than their need to feel important.

They don't need guns, they need some imodium, and maybe a couple of iron pills.


 

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