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So, what do grenade launchers, flash suppressors, bayonet mounts and barrel shrouds have to do with pistol grips making a rifle especially dangerous?

That doesn't address the fact that pistol grips make a rifle especially dangerous.

I've already established that you are unable to show that a pistol-grip makes a rifle especially dangerous. I'm just looking to find out if you also hold the same false ideas about barrel shrouds, flash suppressors, bayonet mounts, and grenade launchers.

If you do hold the same ideas about those items as you did about the pistol-grips, I'm curious about the last time you heard that someone fell victim as a result of those items.

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That doesn't address the fact that pistol grips make a rifle especially dangerous.

Now you're reverting back your unproven claim. You have nothing to show that a pistol-grip makes a rifle especially dangerous.

Oh, so you agree that an animal-hunting rifle can double as a human-hunting rifle?

While an animal hunting rifle could be used to hunt humans, it wouldn't be as effective as a human hunting rifle would be, as that is the purpose of a human hunting rifle.

One thing is establishing that I am unable to show that a pistol grip makes a rifle especially dangerous, another thing is declaring them "false ideas." You haven't established that they're false ideas.

My ideas about pistol grips have nothing to do with someone falling victim as a result of pistol grips.

The claim that pistol grips make a rifle especially dangerous for which I have nothing to show has nothing to do with people falling victim to rifles because they have pistol grips. That's not my argument.

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While an animal hunting rifle could be used to hunt humans, it wouldn't be as effective as a human hunting rifle would be, as that is the purpose of a human hunting rifle.

That's just a belief of yours.

And it is a stubborn belief, as you have demonstrated over and over again that you cannot show that the pistol-grip or flash suppressor, or both, makes a rifle especially dangerous.

Therefore, according to what you have been able to prove concerning function, distinguishing one rifle as an animal-hunting rifle is baseless.

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One thing is establishing that I am unable to show that a pistol grip makes a rifle especially dangerous, another thing is declaring them "false ideas." You haven't established that they're false ideas.

I most certainly have established that your idea that a pistol-grip on a rifle makes it especially dangerous is false.
No you haven't.

And it will remain false unless, or until, you show it to be true.

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My ideas about pistol grips have nothing to do with someone falling victim as a result of pistol grips.

Nonsense. You've made the claim that a pistol-grip makes a rifle especially dangerous. You would have to provide something that would show that to be true. The only thing that will show that to be true is a side-by-side comparison between a rifle without a pistol-grip and a rifle with a pistol-grip to find out if your unfounded claim concerning increased in accuracy and rate of fire is true. Thus far you have failed to do so.

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The claim that pistol grips make a rifle especially dangerous for which I have nothing to show has nothing to do with people falling victim to rifles because they have pistol grips. That's not my argument.

Ah, so your new position is that even though a pistol-grip increases accuracy and rate of fire, it will not result in more deaths. I see.

But since you now admit that you have nothing to show that a pistol-grip makes a rifle especially dangerous, perhaps you'll stop making that claim.

Not showing that the pistol-grip or flash suppressor, or both, makes a rifle especially dangerous does not disprove that an animal hunting rifle wouldn't be as effective as a human hunting rifle in hunting humans.

I'm not distinguishing animal hunting rifles. I'm distinguishing human hunting rifles, those assault weapons as defined and specifically banned by the Federal Assault Weapons Ban, Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act such as the AR-15.

you haven't established that my idea that a pistol-grip makes a rifle especially dangerous is false.

That a pistol-grip increases accuracy and rate of fire would not necessarily result in more deaths, it would increase the probability of more deaths

You continue to fall back on your illogical conclusion.

What nonsense. Tse posts dont say anything like what you say they say.

You have always been the one who introduces and reintroduces pistol grips into every discussion in a pathetic attempt to deflect from the real topic which is gun violence

I find that assault weapons should have been banned for any gun having just those two features.