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Best Presidential Candidate for the job ??

 
 
Kitten with a Whip
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2008 11:30 am
Foxfyre wrote:
Kitten with a Whip wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:
I certainly think it is prudent to elect a president who at least understands that they are out there whether 15 or 200,000 (the latter being a more realistic figure I think) and also a president with the instincts to protect the American people against whatever those Islamofacists might decide to do next.


Where are these people besides inside your brain, of course, and what is the URL to their website. What threat do they pose exactly and what should our new president do about it?


BTW I know for a fact these guys are pretty harmless and they tip well.


Let me guess. You also believe the Holocaust was a hoax, that Neil Armstrong never walked on the moon, that 9/11 was an inside job committed by the US government, that Dick Cheney personally blew up that levee to let the flood into New Orleans, and that little green men from Mars exist? Right?


Oh gag me with a spoon, Mr Fyre, could you possibly come up with a more absurd logical fallacy?


BTW I seem to recall (I have 100% recall) that you deny the existence of man made induced climate change, et me guess. You also believe the Holocaust was a hoax, that Neil Armstrong never walked on the moon, that 9/11 was an inside job committed by the US government, that Dick Cheney personally blew up that levee to let the flood into New Orleans, and that little green men from Mars exist? Right?
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kickycan
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2008 11:30 am
One question: what exactly is meant by the term, "Islamist" in that piece, Foxfyre?
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2008 11:33 am
Kitten with a Whip wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:
Kitten with a Whip wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:
I certainly think it is prudent to elect a president who at least understands that they are out there whether 15 or 200,000 (the latter being a more realistic figure I think) and also a president with the instincts to protect the American people against whatever those Islamofacists might decide to do next.


Where are these people besides inside your brain, of course, and what is the URL to their website. What threat do they pose exactly and what should our new president do about it?


BTW I know for a fact these guys are pretty harmless and they tip well.


Let me guess. You also believe the Holocaust was a hoax, that Neil Armstrong never walked on the moon, that 9/11 was an inside job committed by the US government, that Dick Cheney personally blew up that levee to let the flood into New Orleans, and that little green men from Mars exist? Right?


Oh gag me with a spoon, Mr Fyre, could you possibly come up with a more absurd logical fallacy?


BTW I seem to recall (I have 100% recall) that you deny the existence of man made induced climate change, et me guess. You also believe the Holocaust was a hoax, that Neil Armstrong never walked on the moon, that 9/11 was an inside job committed by the US government, that Dick Cheney personally blew up that levee to let the flood into New Orleans, and that little green men from Mars exist? Right?


Then you aren't denying that you believe these things? By the way I have NEVER denied the existence of man made induced climate change so add that to a growing list that you (and your alter egos) have tended to make up or get very wrong.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2008 11:36 am
kickycan wrote:
One question: what exactly is meant by the term, "Islamist" in that piece, Foxfyre?


I took it to be an adjective modifying the noun 'facist', Kicky. What do you think was meant by the term islamofacist in the article you posted?
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kickycan
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2008 11:38 am
Foxfyre wrote:
kickycan wrote:
One question: what exactly is meant by the term, "Islamist" in that piece, Foxfyre?


I took it to be an adjective modifying the noun 'facist', Kicky. What do you think was meant by the term islamofacist in the article you posted?


It's a noun. And it's not the same as saying islamofascist. Or is it? Are they the same thing to you?
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Kitten with a Whip
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2008 11:43 am
Foxfyre wrote:
Kitten with a Whip wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:
Kitten with a Whip wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:
I certainly think it is prudent to elect a president who at least understands that they are out there whether 15 or 200,000 (the latter being a more realistic figure I think) and also a president with the instincts to protect the American people against whatever those Islamofacists might decide to do next.


Where are these people besides inside your brain, of course, and what is the URL to their website. What threat do they pose exactly and what should our new president do about it?


BTW I know for a fact these guys are pretty harmless and they tip well.


Let me guess. You also believe the Holocaust was a hoax, that Neil Armstrong never walked on the moon, that 9/11 was an inside job committed by the US government, that Dick Cheney personally blew up that levee to let the flood into New Orleans, and that little green men from Mars exist? Right?


Oh gag me with a spoon, Mr Fyre, could you possibly come up with a more absurd logical fallacy?


BTW I seem to recall (I have 100% recall) that you deny the existence of man made induced climate change, et me guess. You also believe the Holocaust was a hoax, that Neil Armstrong never walked on the moon, that 9/11 was an inside job committed by the US government, that Dick Cheney personally blew up that levee to let the flood into New Orleans, and that little green men from Mars exist? Right?


Then you aren't denying that you believe these things? By the way I have NEVER denied the existence of man made induced climate change so add that to a growing list that you (and your alter egos) have tended to make up or get very wrong.


Try another Red Herring, Mr Fyre this one ain't flying. Try answering my questions first.
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Kitten with a Whip
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2008 11:45 am
Kitten with a Whip wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:
I certainly think it is prudent to elect a president who at least understands that they are out there whether 15 or 200,000 (the latter being a more realistic figure I think) and also a president with the instincts to protect the American people against whatever those Islamofacists might decide to do next.


Where are these people besides inside your brain, of course, and what is the URL to their website. What threat do they pose exactly and what should our new president do about it?


BTW I know for a fact these guys are pretty harmless and they tip well.


Where are these people besides inside your brain, of course, and what is the URL to their website. What threat do they pose exactly and what should our new president do about it?
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2008 11:48 am
http://www.globalpov.com/images/obamagirl.jpg
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2008 11:50 am
kickycan wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:
kickycan wrote:
One question: what exactly is meant by the term, "Islamist" in that piece, Foxfyre?


I took it to be an adjective modifying the noun 'facist', Kicky. What do you think was meant by the term islamofacist in the article you posted?


It's a noun. And it's not the same as saying islamofascist. Or is it? Are they the same thing to you?


Okay, you're right. 'Islamic' is the adjective. In my opinion Islamists can be people who follow the tenets of Islam--the traditional term is Moslem--and Islamists can also be people who twist the tenets of their religion into a facist doctrine that guides their motives and activities. For me the term 'islamofacist' is a label for an Islamic Facist. Currently the only source other than the blogs and in a few opinion pieces where you find that label is in Wikipedia. I think it is only a matter of time before it will be among the new words/terms incorporated into Webster.
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Kitten with a Whip
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2008 11:51 am
H2O_MAN wrote:
http://www.globalpov.com/images/obamagirl.jpg



Someone needs to learn photoshop.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2008 11:55 am
Kitten with a Whip wrote:
Kitten with a Whip wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:
I certainly think it is prudent to elect a president who at least understands that they are out there whether 15 or 200,000 (the latter being a more realistic figure I think) and also a president with the instincts to protect the American people against whatever those Islamofacists might decide to do next.


Where are these people besides inside your brain, of course, and what is the URL to their website. What threat do they pose exactly and what should our new president do about it?


BTW I know for a fact these guys are pretty harmless and they tip well.


Where are these people besides inside your brain, of course, and what is the URL to their website. What threat do they pose exactly and what should our new president do about it?


You're tracking way worse than usual today. Off your meds? You see I don't see people who hijack passenger planes and fly them into large buildings as harmless no matter how well they tip. And whether you believe 15 guys did that or not, I believe they did. And I believe others will do the same or worse given an opportunity to do so. And the new president should do exactly as the old president has tried to do and has apparently had great success: whatever it takes to prevent them from doing that.
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Kitten with a Whip
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2008 11:57 am
Foxfyre wrote:
kickycan wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:
kickycan wrote:
One question: what exactly is meant by the term, "Islamist" in that piece, Foxfyre?


I took it to be an adjective modifying the noun 'facist', Kicky. What do you think was meant by the term islamofacist in the article you posted?


It's a noun. And it's not the same as saying islamofascist. Or is it? Are they the same thing to you?


Okay, you're right. 'Islamic' is the adjective. In my opinion Islamists can be people who follow the tenets of Islam--the traditional term is Moslem--and Islamists can also be people who twist the tenets of their religion into a facist doctrine that guides their motives and activities. For me the term 'islamofacist' is a label for an Islamic Facist. Currently the only source other than the blogs and in a few opinion pieces where you find that label is in Wikipedia. I think it is only a matter of time before it will be among the new words/terms incorporated into Webster.



You do, wanna make a wager?
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kickycan
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2008 11:58 am
Foxfyre wrote:
kickycan wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:
kickycan wrote:
One question: what exactly is meant by the term, "Islamist" in that piece, Foxfyre?


I took it to be an adjective modifying the noun 'facist', Kicky. What do you think was meant by the term islamofacist in the article you posted?


It's a noun. And it's not the same as saying islamofascist. Or is it? Are they the same thing to you?


Okay, you're right. 'Islamic' is the adjective. In my opinion Islamists can be people who follow the tenets of Islam--the traditional term is Moslem--and Islamists can also be people who twist the tenets of their religion into a facist doctrine that guides their motives and activities. For me the term 'islamofacist' is a label for an Islamic Facist. Currently the only source other than the blogs and in a few opinion pieces where you find that label is in Wikipedia. I think it is only a matter of time before it will be among the new words/terms incorporated into Webster.


The term Islamist means:

islamist

noun
1. a scholar who knowledgeable in Islamic studies
2. an orthodox Muslim

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/islamist

How convenient though, that the writer of that article you posted has no problem making it synonymous with terrorism. I mean, if you're trying to smear a whole religion for the actions of a small group of violent radicals, that's definitely a good way to do it. Thanks for posting that article. I learned a lot from it.
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Kitten with a Whip
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2008 12:01 pm
Foxfyre wrote:
Kitten with a Whip wrote:
Kitten with a Whip wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:
I certainly think it is prudent to elect a president who at least understands that they are out there whether 15 or 200,000 (the latter being a more realistic figure I think) and also a president with the instincts to protect the American people against whatever those Islamofacists might decide to do next.


Where are these people besides inside your brain, of course, and what is the URL to their website. What threat do they pose exactly and what should our new president do about it?


BTW I know for a fact these guys are pretty harmless and they tip well.


Where are these people besides inside your brain, of course, and what is the URL to their website. What threat do they pose exactly and what should our new president do about it?


You're tracking way worse than usual today. Off your meds? You see I don't see people who hijack passenger planes and fly them into large buildings as harmless no matter how well they tip. And whether you believe 15 guys did that or not, I believe they did. And I believe others will do the same or worse given an opportunity to do so. And the new president should do exactly as the old president has tried to do and has apparently had great success: whatever it takes to prevent them from doing that.


Sir, I don't take any meds and I don't understand the personal attack. So this has nothing to do with Islamic fascists, you are referring to Saudi terrorists. Why didn't you just say that. Can I have the twenty minutes of my life that I wasted responding to your fantasy back?
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2008 12:06 pm
kickycan wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:
kickycan wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:
kickycan wrote:
One question: what exactly is meant by the term, "Islamist" in that piece, Foxfyre?


I took it to be an adjective modifying the noun 'facist', Kicky. What do you think was meant by the term islamofacist in the article you posted?


It's a noun. And it's not the same as saying islamofascist. Or is it? Are they the same thing to you?


Okay, you're right. 'Islamic' is the adjective. In my opinion Islamists can be people who follow the tenets of Islam--the traditional term is Moslem--and Islamists can also be people who twist the tenets of their religion into a facist doctrine that guides their motives and activities. For me the term 'islamofacist' is a label for an Islamic Facist. Currently the only source other than the blogs and in a few opinion pieces where you find that label is in Wikipedia. I think it is only a matter of time before it will be among the new words/terms incorporated into Webster.


The term Islamist means:

islamist

noun
1. a scholar who knowledgeable in Islamic studies
2. an orthodox Muslim

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/islamist

How convenient though, that the writer of that article you posted has no problem making it synonymous with terrorism. I mean, if you're trying to smear a whole religion for the actions of a small group of violent radicals, that's definitely a good way to do it. Thanks for posting that article. I learned a lot from it.


Using your link I found a somewhat different definition than what you posted; one more in keeping with the way Hanson used it in his essay:

Quote:
American Heritage Dictionary
n.
An Islamic revivalist movement, often characterized by moral conservatism, literalism, and the attempt to implement Islamic values in all spheres of life.
The religious faith, principles, or cause of Islam.

Is·lam'ist adj. & n.
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kickycan
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2008 12:29 pm
Ah, now we're getting somewhere. So an Islamist, used this way, is the same thing as an Islamofascist.

So this war on terror is against terrorists and all those people who believe in this movement? Is that what you're saying?

And according to Bush AND McCain, the way to beat this movement is to bring "freedom" to the middle east by forcing democracy on them at the point of a gun. Do you agree that that is the basic strategy we've been employing so far?
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real life
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2008 12:29 pm
H2O_MAN wrote:


Clinton .... responded the way left wing liberal whack jobs wanted him to and they kept coming.

Bush responded as any sane leader would and went after them... they stopped coming.

If we revert back to the policy of ...Clinton they will come after us once again.


The Clinton non-response to terrorism didn't work.

But don't ever expect liberals to admit this.

They sent Sandy Burglar into the National Archives to make sure that there was no paper trail.

Quote:
Berger Will Plead Guilty To Taking Classified Paper

By John F. Harris and Allan Lengel
Washington Post Staff Writers
Friday, April 1, 2005; Page A01

Samuel R. "Sandy" Berger, a former White House national security adviser, plans to plead guilty to a misdemeanor, and will acknowledge intentionally removing and destroying copies of a classified document about the Clinton administration's record on terrorism.
from http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A16706-2005Mar31.html

Oh wait. I forgot. The Washington Post is just a bunch of rightwingnutjobs blah blah blah

(Sorta reminiscient of Hilly's attempt, recently come to light, to sequester and suppress the Douglas files and deny legal counsel to the President

Quote:
The Judiciary Committee allowed Douglas to keep counsel, thus establishing the precedent. Zeifman says he told Hillary that all the documents establishing this fact were in the Judiciary Committee's public files. So what did Hillary do?

"Hillary then removed all the Douglas files to the offices where she was located, which at that time was secured and inaccessible to the public," Zeifman said. Hillary then proceeded to write a legal brief arguing there was no precedent for the right to representation by counsel during an impeachment proceeding - as if the Douglas case had never occurred.


Hard to teach an old dog new tricks. The Clintons are the gift that just keeps on giving.)

Bottom line, the Clinton terrorism policy was a failure and the Dems will do anything rather than admit it.
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kickycan
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2008 12:32 pm
real life wrote:
Bottom line, the Clinton terrorism policy was a failure and the Dems will do anything rather than admit it.


Along with every other terrorism policy from every other president up until 9-11, including Reagan and George bush 1 and 2.
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real life
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2008 12:37 pm
Well here's your chance kicky.

What would you have done in response to 9-11?

And what would you do now, in the present situation, if you were President?
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kickycan
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2008 12:57 pm
Well, first I'd ask myself, "What would Jesus do?"

Then I'd bomb Iraq.
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