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Best Presidential Candidate for the job ??

 
 
Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 14 Apr, 2008 12:41 pm
Foxfyre's source wrote:
Yet I balk at the term. The notion that we are fighting "Islamic fascists" blurs the conflict, widening the enemy to many if not all Muslims. It's as if we were to call Hitler and Mussolini "Christian fascists," implying that it is their religion, not resistance to transcendence, that is the root cause of the problem.


What Fox "thinks" supports Asherman's opinion in fact expresses exactly the objection which i have raised to the indiscriminate use of an idiotic expression such as "islamofascist."
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 14 Apr, 2008 12:42 pm
Setanta wrote:
Foxfyre's source wrote:
Yet I balk at the term. The notion that we are fighting "Islamic fascists" blurs the conflict, widening the enemy to many if not all Muslims. It's as if we were to call Hitler and Mussolini "Christian fascists," implying that it is their religion, not resistance to transcendence, that is the root cause of the problem.


What Fox "thinks" supports Asherman's opinion in fact expresses exactly the objection which i have raised to the indiscriminate use of an idiotic expression such as "islamofascist."


That comment would lead me to believe you didn't actually read Asherman's post.
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Mon 14 Apr, 2008 12:43 pm
Go ahead, Set, treat it lightly, and then be prepared to kneel on a prayer rug and slaughter Christians.

I hope you are happy.
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Mon 14 Apr, 2008 12:44 pm
Jesus! Will people never learn?!

Has George Bush spoken in vain all these years?
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 14 Apr, 2008 12:50 pm
McGentrix wrote:
Setanta wrote:
Foxfyre's source wrote:
Yet I balk at the term. The notion that we are fighting "Islamic fascists" blurs the conflict, widening the enemy to many if not all Muslims. It's as if we were to call Hitler and Mussolini "Christian fascists," implying that it is their religion, not resistance to transcendence, that is the root cause of the problem.


What Fox "thinks" supports Asherman's opinion in fact expresses exactly the objection which i have raised to the indiscriminate use of an idiotic expression such as "islamofascist."


That comment would lead me to believe you didn't actually read Asherman's post.


Asherman's post (the one at the bottom of page 17) essentially says that while the term "islamofascist" is not technically correct, that H20man is describing a real threat. The threat of terrorism is real, but the use of the term "islamofascist" is polemical, and far from enlightening any discussion, tends to blur the distinction between murderous fanatics and all other muslims, as well as to suggest that muslim terrorists are some sort of unique threat. Any clown with an obsessive adherence to a cause, and a bomb, is a threat, regardless of their religion, and regardless of their political ideology.

The use of terms such as "islamofascist," and the suggestion that muslim terrorists are somehow more dangerous than any other variety of terrorists are both distractions which obscure the very real threats which face the nation. The narrow focus on national security vis-à-vis muslim terrorists also ignores the very important other aspects of the job of President of the United States.
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Mon 14 Apr, 2008 12:52 pm
Terrorists are insignificant -- merely a way to keep the populace adequately frightened.
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Mon 14 Apr, 2008 12:53 pm
I can not believe that you are buying into this crap, set.

I thought you had some savvy about you.
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Mon 14 Apr, 2008 06:38 pm
My crisp and clear view is this.
Dean William R Inge had this view( My view in better English)
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" A nation is a society UNITED by the DELUSION about ancestory
and
by a common HATRED of its neighbours."

usa is a power which wish to feed the soup seeking poor people with borrowed money and brain.
Rama
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Mon 14 Apr, 2008 07:37 pm
as long as the word
REGRET
SORRY
is not in American dictionary any one who is immatured enough to make much noise.( with billion toilet paper money).
Let the new wed couple who live in USA bring forth a decent citizen tobe the PRESIDENT
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Thu 17 Apr, 2008 09:43 am
So what is this Islamic Plan for America? Read on:

TWENTY-YEAR PLAN FOR USA
ISLAM TARGETS AMERICA

1. Terminate America's freedom of speech by replacing it with hate crime bills state-wide and nation-wide.

2. Wage a war of words using black leaders like Louis Farrakhan, Rev. Jesse Jackson and other visible religious personalities to promote Islam as the original African-American's religion while Christianity is for the whites! Strange enough, no one tells the African-Americans that it was the Arab Muslims who captured them and sold them as slaves, neither the fact that in Arabic the word for black and slave is the same, "Abed."

3. Engage the American public in dialogues, discussions, debates in colleges, universities, public libraries, radio, TV, churches and mosques on the virtues of Islam. Proclaim how it is historically another religion like Judaism and Christianity with the same monotheistic faith.

4. Nominate Muslim sympathizers to political office for favorable legislation to Islam and support potential sympathizers by block voting.

5.Take control of as much of Hollywood, the press, TV, radio and the internet by buying the corporations or a controlling stock.

6. Yield to the fear of imminent shut-off of the lifeblood of America - the black gold. America's economy depends on oil, (1000 products are derived from oil), so does its personal and industrial transportation and manufacturing -41% comes from the Middle East.

7.Yell, "foul, out-of-context, personal interpretation, hate crime, Zionist, un-American, inaccurate interpretation of the Quran" anytime Islam is criticized or the Quran is analyzed in the public arena.

8.Encourage Muslims to penetrate the White House, specifically with Islamists who can articulate a marvelous and peaceful picture of Islam. Acquire government positions, get membership in local school boards. Train Muslims as medical doctors to dominate the medical field, research and pharmaceutical companies. Take over the computer industry. Establish Middle Eastern restaurants throughout the U.S. to connect planners of Islamization in a discreet way. Ever notice how numerous Muslim doctors in America are, when their countries need them more desperately than America?

9. Accelerate Islamic demographic growth via:
a. Massive immigration (100,000 annually since 1961)
b. No birth control whatsoever - every baby of Muslim parents is automatically a Muslim and cannot choose another religion later.
c. Muslim men must marry American women and Islamize them (10,000 annually). Then divorce them and remarry every five years - since one cannot have the Muslim legal permission to marry four at one time. This is a legal solution in America.
d. Convert angry, alienated black inmates and turn them into militants (so far 2000 released inmates have joined Al Qaida world-wide). Only a few have been captured in Afghanistan and on American soil. So far - sleeping cells!

10.Reading, writing, arithmetic and research through the American educational system, mosques and student centers (now 1500) should be sprinkled with dislike of Jews, evangelical Christians and democracy. There are 300 exclusively Muslim schools with loyalty to the Quran, not the U.S. Constitution.

11.Provide very sizeable monetary Muslim grants to colleges and universities in America to establish "Centers for Islamic studies" with Muslim directors to promote Islam in higher education institutions.

12.Let the entire world know through propaganda, speeches, seminars, local and national media that terrorists have high-jacked Islam, not the truth, which is Islam high-jacked the terrorists. Furthermore in January of 2002, Saudi Arabia's Embassy in Washington mailed 4500 packets of the Quran, videos, promoting Islam to America's high schools-free. They would never allow us to reciprocate.

13. Appeal to the historically compassionate and sensitive Americans for sympathy and tolerance towards the Muslims in America who are portrayed as mainly immigrants from oppressed countries.

14. Nullify America's sense of security by manipulating the intelligence community with misinformation. Periodically terrorize Americans of impending attacks on bridges, tunnels, water supplies, airports, apartment buildings and malls. (We have experienced this too often since 9-11.)

15. Form riots and demonstrations in the prison system demanding Islamic Sharia as the way of life, not American's justice system.

16. Open numerous charities throughout the U.S. but use the funds to support Islamic terrorism with American dollars.

17.Raise interest in Islam on America's campuses by insisting that freshman take at least one course on Islam. Be sure that the writer is a bonafide American, Christian, scholarly and able to cover up the violence in the Quran and express the peaceful, spiritual and religious aspect only.

18.Unify the numerous Muslim lobbies in Washington, mosques, Islamic student centers, educational organizations, magazines and papers by internet and an annual convention to coordinate plans, propagate the faith and engender news in the media of their visibility.

19. Send intimidating messages and messengers to the outspoken individuals who are critical of Islam and seek to eliminate them by hook or crook.

20. Applaud Muslims as loyal citizens of the US by spotlighting their voting record as the highest percentage of all minority and ethic groups in America.
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nimh
 
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Reply Thu 17 Apr, 2008 10:04 am
H2O_MAN wrote:
So what is this Islamic Plan for America? Read on:

[..]

2. Wage a war of words using black leaders like Louis Farrakhan, Rev. Jesse Jackson and other visible religious personalities to promote Islam as the original African-American's religion while Christianity is for the whites!

Umm...

"Using black leaders like Rev. Jesse Jackson to promote Islam as the original African-American's religion while Christianity is for the whites"?

Reverend Jesse Jackson?
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