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Have Any Of The A2K Men Ever Recieved This Look?

 
 
CalamityJane
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2008 10:55 am
Roxxxanne wrote:
Bill Maher's Take

I'm going to throw the remote through the TV if one more news twink says something on the order of "When we come back, we'll look into what drives a successful man like Eliot Spitzer to risk it all..."

Oh yes, let's convene a panel of experts for that. Let me help you: because he wants to get his nut off! Stop with all the analysis! It never ends, I hear all these people talking about how powerful people think they can get away with anything, so it's a thrill, or that it's for this psychological reason or this one -- please, he wanted to CUM WITH SOMEONE! Stop overthinking this: people need sex, and married people generally aren't getting it. Studies show (OK, I'm making that up, but it's true nonetheless) that people married 20 years only have sex on Valentine's Day, their anniversary, and their birthdays. You can hate me as the messenger, but it's true -- how can anyone be expected to still want to score with someone you've been having sex with for a score? Mr. Spitzer simply wanted what humans desire, to feel that sensational sensation when you're hot for someone, to touch and hug and bump and grind -- this is really not that complicated! If you're ascribing more to it than that, it's probably really more about your own fear that your spouse wants to do the same thing.

Or is doing it. Married people are often starved for sex, touch, affection, not to mention the kinky stuff that wifey definitely won't do. So if you find yourself at such a place in life -- and this is most certainly wives as well -- where you're dieing like this, you can do one of three things: get divorced, cheat, or continue to live a life with little or no passion, sex, etc. It's easy to point fingers, but how about some recognition that society's rules are so at odds with human nature that there are actually no good options for an Eliot Spitzer, and the ZILLIONS OF PEOPLE JUST LIKE HIM, many of who are tut-tut-ing today. I guess a guy is a hero who sticks it out and leads a life of quiet desperation. I'm not so sure it's heroic to make him.


Typical male excuse again. In the end it's always the woman's fault,
when her husband finds relief with a hooker. Silda doesn't strike me as
a rigid sexless wife. Yes, she probably wasn't into spanking Elliot while
he was soiling his diaper - who would? Yet, to blame her for his much
needed sexual release, is just a cheap shot, even for Maher.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2008 10:58 am
Roxxxanne wrote:
Roxxxanne wrote:
spendius wrote:




But prostitution is dead easy.




How would you know? Have you ever worked in the sex trade? Have you ever used the services of a sex worker?

Prostitution should be legalized and regulated. Guys will still pay big bucks for the pros. There is a lot more too it than just spreading your legs. Your wife can do that.


I am wondering if spendius is ever going to try to defend his outrageous position.
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spendius
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2008 10:58 am
That's a bit old fashioned Cal.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2008 11:02 am
CalamityJane wrote:
Roxxxanne wrote:
Bill Maher's Take

I'm going to throw the remote through the TV if one more news twink says something on the order of "When we come back, we'll look into what drives a successful man like Eliot Spitzer to risk it all..."

Oh yes, let's convene a panel of experts for that. Let me help you: because he wants to get his nut off! Stop with all the analysis! It never ends, I hear all these people talking about how powerful people think they can get away with anything, so it's a thrill, or that it's for this psychological reason or this one -- please, he wanted to CUM WITH SOMEONE! Stop overthinking this: people need sex, and married people generally aren't getting it. Studies show (OK, I'm making that up, but it's true nonetheless) that people married 20 years only have sex on Valentine's Day, their anniversary, and their birthdays. You can hate me as the messenger, but it's true -- how can anyone be expected to still want to score with someone you've been having sex with for a score? Mr. Spitzer simply wanted what humans desire, to feel that sensational sensation when you're hot for someone, to touch and hug and bump and grind -- this is really not that complicated! If you're ascribing more to it than that, it's probably really more about your own fear that your spouse wants to do the same thing.

Or is doing it. Married people are often starved for sex, touch, affection, not to mention the kinky stuff that wifey definitely won't do. So if you find yourself at such a place in life -- and this is most certainly wives as well -- where you're dieing like this, you can do one of three things: get divorced, cheat, or continue to live a life with little or no passion, sex, etc. It's easy to point fingers, but how about some recognition that society's rules are so at odds with human nature that there are actually no good options for an Eliot Spitzer, and the ZILLIONS OF PEOPLE JUST LIKE HIM, many of who are tut-tut-ing today. I guess a guy is a hero who sticks it out and leads a life of quiet desperation. I'm not so sure it's heroic to make him.


Typical male excuse again. In the end it's always the woman's fault,
when her husband finds relief with a hooker. Silda doesn't strike me as
a rigid sexless wife. Yes, she probably wasn't into spanking Elliot while
he was soiling his diaper - who would? Yet, to blame her for his much
needed sexual release, is just a cheap shot, even for Maher.



I didn't see it as an attack on Silda. I read it as an attack on marriage and the fact that humans are not naturally monogamous.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2008 11:03 am
spendius wrote:
That's a bit old fashioned Cal.





What do bears have to do with this?
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2008 11:30 am
Roxxxanne wrote:
I didn't see it as an attack on Silda. I read it as an attack on marriage and the fact that humans are not naturally monogamous.


Why not? Maher specifically said ".....there are actually no good options for an Eliot Spitzer, and the ZILLIONS OF PEOPLE JUST LIKE HIM,....."
assuming that Spitzer didn't get any sex at home, and therefore his
hooker escapades are excused, since Silda refused. That's exactly implied
in Maher's statement.


spendius, you're an intelligent, well written, articulate person, you have a
great deal of contributions to many subjects, however, when it comes to
women and sex, I truly think you're all theory, and no practice, so I cannot
take too seriously here.
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Mame
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2008 11:40 am
So is it tit for tat, then? If a woman cheats it's because she's not getting any, getting enough, getting off (excuse my vulgarity)? Is her man disappointing her in some way?
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2008 11:54 am
i suggest you all just get naked and jump in a pile... I'll observe and report...
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2008 12:06 pm
Mame wrote:
So is it tit for tat, then? If a woman cheats it's because she's not getting any, getting enough, getting off (excuse my vulgarity)? Is her man disappointing her in some way?


Yes Mame, but that's the part where men tune out. Let's face it, they
never would admit to not being able to satisfy their wives, let alone not
giving them what they want.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2008 12:08 pm
CalamityJane wrote:
Mame wrote:
So is it tit for tat, then? If a woman cheats it's because she's not getting any, getting enough, getting off (excuse my vulgarity)? Is her man disappointing her in some way?


Yes Mame, but that's the part where men tune out. Let's face it, they
never would admit to not being able to satisfy their wives, let alone not
giving them what they want.


you've been hurt haven't you CJ? Disappointed? Spurned by Gus and wounded beyond healing?
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2008 12:09 pm
Then there is the question of whether a woman would feel more cheated on if hubby procured the services of a prostitute in an attempt to satisfy his 'needs' as opposed to a more emotional investment in an illicit affair?
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Chumly
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2008 12:11 pm
CalamityJane wrote:
Mame wrote:
So is it tit for tat, then? If a woman cheats it's because she's not getting any, getting enough, getting off (excuse my vulgarity)? Is her man disappointing her in some way?


Yes Mame, but that's the part where men tune out. Let's face it, they
never would admit to not being able to satisfy their wives, let alone not
giving them what they want.
I have no problems whatsoever in saying that I do not wholly satisfy my wife. To expect otherwise is idealistic in the absurd.
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spendius
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2008 12:13 pm
Quote:
i suggest you all just get naked and jump in a pile... I'll observe and report...


No thanks Bear. It's too smelly and sweaty and before you know it you'll be down Soft Furnishings spending all your wages on Swish curtain rails in plastic oak-style tubes and skinning your knuckles putting them up. And it's been done to death anyway.

Cal wrote-

Quote:
spendius, you're an intelligent, well written, articulate person, you have a great deal of contributions to many subjects, however, when it comes to women and sex, I truly think you're all theory, and no practice, so I cannot take too seriously here.


My "theories" are derived from practice my dear. How could it be otherwise in this field. It might have been easier to derive practice from theory when the females went on all fours. But only slightly.
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2008 12:18 pm
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
you've been hurt haven't you CJ? Disappointed? Spurned by Gus and wounded beyond healing?


Of course I've been hurt, who hasn't? But never sexually. I guess, I always have been lucky in this department, and quite satisfied.
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spendius
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2008 12:25 pm
Have you ever had electrodes attached to your body to measure the tell-tale signs objectively?

Have you ever read Reich?
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2008 12:28 pm
spendius wrote:
Have you ever had electrodes attached to your body to measure the tell-tale signs objectively?

Have you ever read Reich?


spendius, I realize that you - considering your own experiences - cannot comprehend that sexually satisfied women are out there, but I gladly
would take a lie detector on that one.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2008 12:47 pm
CalamityJane wrote:
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
you've been hurt haven't you CJ? Disappointed? Spurned by Gus and wounded beyond healing?


Of course I've been hurt, who hasn't? But never sexually. I guess, I always have been lucky in this department, and quite satisfied.


then what qualifies you to speak to any possible deficiencies in any man if you've never experienced one?
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2008 01:22 pm
Baer, if everyone here spoke up on the subjects she/he is only qualified for,
then it would be pretty empty around here, but this is besides the point
I originally made of Bill Maher putting the blame on Silda.
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Mame
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2008 01:53 pm
Was Maher perhaps being facetious? He's not normally that stupid.

But the thought of anyone blaming anyone else's behaviour or actions for their own is absurd. That's akin to shouting "The Devil Made Me Do It!" Not only absurd, but fallacious and assinine.

Men no more cheat on their wives because they blame them for a boring sex life than women blame men for all the shoes in their closet.

If the sex is that bad, then likely the relationship isn't up to snuff either. And as we all know, it takes TWO to Tango!
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2008 02:10 pm
I don't know, of course, but I suspect that there are women who attach themselves to powerful men and know that they, the men, feel that their political or business success entitles them to "transcend" the moral rules constraining normal men. Such men feel that their success entitles them to this freedom, or should I say license. Silda's expression (on a beautiful face, I might add) may express anger for Elliott's weakness, i.e., the stupidity that caused his downfall. Now she's stuck with a "failure." Let's see how long she takes to get unstuck.

BTW, did you see Jay Leno's comment regarding Hilary? He noted that Hilary may have been considering Spitzer as her vice president and remarked: "She sure knows how to choose them."
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