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ME MYSELF I - The pros & cons of the solo life

 
 
ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 9 Dec, 2005 10:39 am
Ah, Msolga. I've been there and not all so long ago either. Well, four or five years ago. Hmmm, when was that again?

I have no light to shed..
but hugs from here.
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dagmaraka
 
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Reply Fri 9 Dec, 2005 10:51 am
it's a new day olga. or will be at some point... the time difference always messes things up. new sun, new clouds, new thoughts... you'll be stronger soon. good people have to suffer a good deal more than the lousy ones. take it as a bittersweet blessing. it's so worth it in the long run.
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 9 Dec, 2005 04:58 pm
Thank you so much for the kind words & encouragement, G, dag, Vivien & osso. You have no idea how comforting they've been.
Actually, you're right, dag: today is a new day! It's a Saturday morning. The sun is making a firm decision to emerge from behind the clouds. I've done my early morning promenade with cup of tea in hand & finally chopped off that offending tree branch from next door that was stopping one of my bushes from growing up straight. (My long-gone counsellor who nursed me through the break-up would throroughly approve of that! Laughing ) & I've wearing my red shoes. Very Happy I'm going out soon to get my hair cut & my hairdresser is bloody going to listen to what I want, even if I have to tell him to shut up & listen! Laughing
Seriously though, I am feeling fractionally better. I mean, do I actually want a reconciliation with g? What, am I mad?! Hell no! Do I want to spend time with him & become "friends", or something? Hardly! No, none of the above. This is really about one more stage of separation. Hopefully the final one. And I heard the news at a particularly vulnerable time, just having gone through the hassles of reapplying for my job (I hate contracts!) & having just spent the past week wondering if the worst could happen & I might have to apply for job after job during the summer. .... Sad Then I heard about the "impending nuptials" & it felt like he had his life thoroughly sorted out & mine was all struggle, struggle, struggle .... After a good night's sleep I think things aren't quite so disastrous, afterall. I'm actually enjoying being on my own, most of the time. The financial struggles are a problem but I can't allow them to totally dominate my life. And hey, I'm hoping, hoping that this tedious process of getting over that (20 year) relationship might finally be entering it's final stages. (Nothing so final as a marriage!) I am so very tired of thinking it's finally history then getting another surprise bite on the bum ... again ... Maybe this one was the last bite? Surprised Very Happy It's not an easy process, is it, this getting yourself back into one whole bit again?
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 9 Dec, 2005 05:02 pm
chini75 wrote:
Hi
Iam 30 and have been single all this while. From my experience living alone can be very painful. The worst part is o return to an empty flat. I remember I used to turn on the TV real loud the moment I would walk into my apartment just so I could hear voices. My single status also forced me to stay in office till late almost everyday. Can be rather depressing.


Hello, chini75 & welcome to A2K! Very Happy I'm in a great rush this morning (hair appointment & I'm running late.) so not much time to respond, sorry. But I'm hoping that today is a good day for you! Very Happy
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littlek
 
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Reply Fri 9 Dec, 2005 05:52 pm
msolga wrote:
Ah, the endless stages of separation and really, really becoming alone ....

Yesterday a friend told me that my ex was getting married again! Shocked Surprised She was concerned about how I might react to this news & was ever so tactful in divulging the information. Me, I'm gobsmacked & I'm not sure why. I mean, it's quite a few years now since the actual separation & bit by bit I've been determinably withdrawing from any contact with him. For the past year I've been super determined in avoiding any contact: phone, email or personal. It just reminds me of very bad times & that, of course, makes me feel less than wonderful. Sad So I'd been feeling pretty good about putting that part of my life behind me & getting to really enjoy the independence of my solo life. Imagine how surprised I was to discover how undermined & sad this news made me feel .... suddenly I felt insecure & vulnerable, doubted my ability to cope alone & saw my current life as a bit of a mess! Confused And I don't feel much better today. This is very confusing. Why should this news undermine me so? Anyone whose been there & done that who can shed any light on this (temporary, I hope!) et-back?[/quote.]


Why feel badly that he's getting re-married? Because he got there first! The man (X) in my past who had the most, by far, influence on my psyche today (mostly bad) got married and had a kid a couple years ago. He was in a lamanze class with another ex-boyfriend (V) who got married and had a kid (not in that order). Sigh. I was more pissed off than sad about X getting on with his life, because I felt my time with him had screwed mine up so much. He was the f-up, not me! And then with V I was mostly sad. We're still friends (he was up last weekend) and he was the one I thought I might get back together with someday. Not any more.

Anyway. I'm so sorry you got this slap to the face. It does get better and it is the pen-ultimate resolution aid.
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littlek
 
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Reply Fri 9 Dec, 2005 05:59 pm
Well, I see I should have read through!
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Diane
 
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Reply Fri 9 Dec, 2005 07:21 pm
Msolga, I wonder how many of the people here on a2k admire you and your independence? I have as long as I've been reading your threads.

You mentioned thinking aobut what it would be like if you were back together--not good is what was expressed. Can you focus on that? Really picture what is was like and what it would be like with children. Not good, I'll bet. Then can you feel grateful that some other woman got stuck with him?

{{{{{msolga}}}}}
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2005 12:26 am
Lordy, Msolga, 'tain't no mystery!!!

I's what is called a "normative crisis"...that is , most everybody who experiences this event is discombobulated by it.

You loved him for a looooong time!Tendrils of him are intimately woven into the fibres of your being.

Him getting married is such a final cutting off.....of course you are grieving, no matter how far you have come in recovering, and suddenly feel very alone and all that.

Perfectly normal.


This too shall pass, but you may need to take really good care of yourself and get some support.

Just do not add kicking yourself to a perfectly normally difficult time.


The upside is that it is a chance to deal with all the bits you dinna deal with before.


((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((Msolga)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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msolga
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2005 05:10 am
littlek wrote:
Why feel badly that he's getting re-married? Because he got there first!


Perhaps that's part of it, k: "You mean you've got your act together, you've so easily recovered from what was a huge upheaval for me (& that to some extent, anyway, it looks like I'm still recovering from) & can actually marry again? Confused You're actually OK to start again???"

Yep, that's pretty baffling. Except, except .... I know that he's spent the minimum possible time reflecting on what happened & why before launching into the next episode, then the next, then the next .... I think I mentioned this earlier in this thread, but why can't some men cope with some time out, alone? I know so many who have just rushed on to the next thing, as quickly as possible. I've often wondered where they get the stamina, or the resilience, or whatever .... Me, I have to take time out. I couldn't cope at all with another entanglement straight after the end of a long, involved relationship. Impossible! Shocked
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msolga
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2005 05:22 am
Diane wrote:
Msolga, I wonder how many of the people here on a2k admire you and your independence? I have as long as I've been reading your threads.

You mentioned thinking aobut what it would be like if you were back together--not good is what was expressed. Can you focus on that? Really picture what is was like and what it would be like with children. Not good, I'll bet. Then can you feel grateful that some other woman got stuck with him?

{{{{{msolga}}}}}


Thank you, Diane. Very kind words.
As for independence, hey, I think I might actually have gained some! Mind you, I had to be dragged to there kicking & screaming. Laughing Having spent most of my adult life involved in one super-long, involved relationship or another, this is fairly new territory for me. And I do rather like it, most of the time! Very Happy And as for focusing on what it might be like if we were still together? I can see that all too well: Awful, awful, awful! Shocked I'm so glad I'm no longer in that place! Why do we stay so long in relationships that have gone so badly off the rails I wonder? That one should have ended years before it did, really.
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msolga
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2005 05:49 am
dlowan wrote:
Lordy, Msolga, 'tain't no mystery!!!

I's what is called a "normative crisis"...that is , most everybody who experiences this event is discombobulated by it.

You loved him for a looooong time!Tendrils of him are intimately woven into the fibres of your being.

Him getting married is such a final cutting off.....of course you are grieving, no matter how far you have come in recovering, and suddenly feel very alone and all that.

Perfectly normal.


This too shall pass, but you may need to take really good care of yourself and get some support.

Just do not add kicking yourself to a perfectly normally difficult time.


The upside is that it is a chance to deal with all the bits you dinna deal with before.


((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((Msolga)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))


Ah, so there's a name for this, Deb! A normative crisis. Very inconvenient, I can tell you!

You know, I like the thought of this final cutting off. It will actually be a relief, though my first reaction on hearing the news was to feel almost panicked. I mean, even after having avoided any contact with him for about a year now, at times there's this persistent sense of the person when you least want it, sort of like a lingering ghost. (No I'm not losing my grip. Laughing ) It's just habit I guess, but from time to time I'd find myself thinking: What would he think of this work I've done in the garden/some development with neighbours/this leak that's just sprung in my ceiling ...? I guess it's not surprising after 20 years of such close contact, but hey, it's hardly appropriate or useful for now, is it? Tonight I had this sense that that ghost would soon vanish ... & I surprised myself by feeling relieved & almost joyful about it. It felt like some burden would soon be be shifted. Almost free.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2005 08:43 am
Yeppers, but you are likely going to be really up and down with it, though, MsO.


Complicated, eh?
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Vivien
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2005 09:25 am
so many good things have been said - the fact that 'he got there first' - yes - you don't want him but it isn't easy to see him seemingly forgetting you for someone else. But he has tendrils of memory of you that are forever there and SHE has that to come to terms with, the fact that part of him still has some feelings for YOU! He is undoubtedly not as together as you imagine.

Long term it is a finish, an line under the relationship that should free you further.

Sleeping on it does help - you are more positive after one night's sleep and with time (yes ups and downs as dlowan says) it will shrink in magnitude and impact until it is a small thing.

I'm one, with Diane, who admires your independence and love your humour. You are worth much much much better than him. He's history and should disappear there.
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dupre
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2005 11:06 am
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littlek
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2005 11:13 am
MsOlga, I don't know why men and women differ so much in the way they deal with the end of relationships. I always expect men to have some sort of "what have I done/been doing?" crisis at some point, but they never do.
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dagmaraka
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2005 11:15 am
red shoes are the KEY! how did the haircut go?
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msolga
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2005 03:27 pm
dlowan wrote:
Yeppers, but you are likely going to be really up and down with it, though, MsO.


Complicated, eh?



But all the same, Deb, I'm thinking most of the hard yards have been done. I'm such an expert, I could easily gain a PHD on this specialized subject! :wink: And if the going gets too tough, maybe drastic action should be considered? Like seriously considering a coffee date with a bloke! Shocked Laughing
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littlek
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2005 03:29 pm
Do it! Have there been offers? Have you turned them down?
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msolga
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2005 03:34 pm
Vivien wrote:
He is undoubtedly not as together as you imagine.


But he's not together at all, Vivien! He's all over the shop, emotionally. This is precisely why he's getting married, I imagine. Simply unable to cope alone at all. Really, I suspect a nurturing, non-judgemental mother is what he yearns for. It's a hell of a commitment, trust me! Been there, done that! :wink:

(Thank you for your kind thoughts, Vivien. I'm touched. Very Happy )
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msolga
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2005 03:41 pm
littlek wrote:
Do it! Have there been offers? Have you turned them down?


Sort of. Laughing But I'd have to really, really motivate myself, k! Laughing No, I don't despise the other sex & I don't think I'm *bitter & twisted*. It's just that I'm simply not remotely that way inclined at present. Is this permanent? No idea, I'm just going with the flow & will act when & if seems a great idea. Right now absolutely no desire in that direction. Confused
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