Escaping the family's past?

I was referring to this:

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By the way, if there wasn't a Holocaust, there'd be no Israel to have these specific problems there. Why don't you explore the root of the problem (what caused European Jews to be living in that neck of the woods). Could it be the expression, "What goes around, comes around" have some truth here?

Were you not referring to founding of the state of Israel? Wasn't Israel, by any chance, the Chosen Land? By the Jews themselves?

BTW, which European country would you suggest gave land to the Jewish State? It now has over 7 million of inhabitants. My country, for example, has 5.

Foofie wrote:

Sorry, only German citizens count, since my preferences only have to do with the political entity of Germany, since it includes in its history the two world wars. I really am not interested about the people in Germany. In my opinion, they have become very Jewish in their successful efforts to make money and even in their oftentimes speaking two languages (that was a negative stereotype of the International Jew - able to speak more than one language).

"I don't like Germans because of the Holocaust, and because the have become very Jewish."



Okay then...

Boston is a country?

At least, I've found out now why most US-Americans only speak one language: they won't be considered Jewish.

Foofie wrote:

No, I can't be a racist, since Germans are not a race, nor are Europeans, nor are the French. They are the same race as I am.

You can, however, be a bigot.

And Israel .... ever heard of Theodor Herzl, Foofie?

Walter Hinteler wrote:

At least, I've found out now why most US-Americans only speak one language: they won't be considered Jewish.

Hehe...

So what about American Jews who only speak one language...?

dagmaraka wrote:

I was referring to this:

Quote:

By the way, if there wasn't a Holocaust, there'd be no Israel to have these specific problems there. Why don't you explore the root of the problem (what caused European Jews to be living in that neck of the woods). Could it be the expression, "What goes around, comes around" have some truth here?

Were you not referring to founding of the state of Israel? Wasn't Israel, by any chance, the Chosen Land? By the Jews themselves?

BTW, which European country would you suggest gave land to the Jewish State? It now has over 7 million of inhabitants. My country, for example, has 5.

Boston is a country?

I'm not talking about now. I was talking about immediately after WWII, when there were Holocaust survivors that no one wanted in their backyard. No one wanted them at that time. Right now Israel exists. That's a given in my mind.

And, what are you talking about Israel being the Chosen Land? Chosen by who? Moses? God? I don't know about these things. Ask me an easier question.

The juridical foundation of the State of Israel begins with the Balfour Declaration. This took the form of an official letter from the British Foreign Secretary Arthur Balfour to Lord Rothschild of England in 1917. Its text ran:

"His Majesty's Government views with favor the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavors to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country."

The Declaration was the fruit of almost three years of diplomatic efforts that went on between the Zionists and the British government. Indeed, it was the fruit of efforts made from the beginning of the Zionist movement. Since its first foundation in 1897 as a modern organization at the Congress of Basle, Zionism had pursued two courses: one seeking a legal charter from the various governments that would be involved in setting up a Jewish state; and a second which concerned itself with the purchase, settlement, and development of the land in Palestine.
...In 1922, when a special mandate for Palestine was enacted, the "historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine" was recognized, the principle of the Balfour Declaration was incorporated and Jewish immigration into Palestine was encouraged.
...As for Palestine itself, relying on the Balfour Declaration Jews hoped for the whole of it, including some 45,000 square miles. But in actuality 4/5 of it was made into Transjordan in 1921. Of the remaining 10,000 square miles another 2,000 was subtracted to form the Arab State in Palestine. In short, only 8,000 out of the 45,000 square miles, in which Jews formed a majority, became the State of Israel.
...The final establishment of Israel as a State was effected in 1948 when, on the termination of the British Mandate, the General Assembly of the United Nations created a Jewish and an Arab State by partitioning the country.
source

Foofie wrote:

Boston is a country?

I could very much imaginethat dagmar referred - as she said - to her country and not to the town she's lliving just now.
(Boston - 5 million inhabitants? Who was it again who asked ....?)

And Israel .... ever heard of Theodor Herzl, Foofie?

"Excuse me, do you have the time?" "Sorry, I don't give the time of day to people chewing gum. I think it's low class."

Walter Hinteler wrote:

And Israel .... ever heard of Theodor Herzl, Foofie?

Foofie wrote:

dagmaraka wrote:

I was referring to this:

Quote:

By the way, if there wasn't a Holocaust, there'd be no Israel to have these specific problems there. Why don't you explore the root of the problem (what caused European Jews to be living in that neck of the woods). Could it be the expression, "What goes around, comes around" have some truth here?

Were you not referring to founding of the state of Israel? Wasn't Israel, by any chance, the Chosen Land? By the Jews themselves?

BTW, which European country would you suggest gave land to the Jewish State? It now has over 7 million of inhabitants. My country, for example, has 5.

Boston is a country?

I'm not talking about now. I was talking about immediately after WWII, when there were Holocaust survivors that no one wanted in their backyard. No one wanted them at that time. Right now Israel exists. That's a given in my mind.

And, what are you talking about Israel being the Chosen Land? Chosen by who? Moses? God? I don't know about these things. Ask me an easier question.

Slovakia is a country. I am Slovak. Living in Boston.

Seriously, you know nothing about the 'Chosen Land'? Or Promised Land? Or The People of the Chosen Land? The Chosen People? Doesn't ring a bell? Are you yourself Jewish? Oy vey. It's in the Bible.

Israel does exist. Its' roots are in 19th century and actually refer back to the Old Testament. (Yep, the chosen land). It did not just appear in 1948.

Quote:

The juridical foundation of the State of Israel begins with the Balfour Declaration. This took the form of an official letter from the British Foreign Secretary Arthur Balfour to Lord Rothschild of England in 1917. Its text ran:

"His Majesty's Government views with favor the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavors to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country."

The Declaration was the fruit of almost three years of diplomatic efforts that went on between the Zionists and the British government. Indeed, it was the fruit of efforts made from the beginning of the Zionist movement. Since its first foundation in 1897 as a modern organization at the Congress of Basle, Zionism had pursued two courses: one seeking a legal charter from the various governments that would be involved in setting up a Jewish state; and a second which concerned itself with the purchase, settlement, and development of the land in Palestine.
...In 1922, when a special mandate for Palestine was enacted, the "historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine" was recognized, the principle of the Balfour Declaration was incorporated and Jewish immigration into Palestine was encouraged.
...As for Palestine itself, relying on the Balfour Declaration Jews hoped for the whole of it, including some 45,000 square miles. But in actuality 4/5 of it was made into Transjordan in 1921. Of the remaining 10,000 square miles another 2,000 was subtracted to form the Arab State in Palestine. In short, only 8,000 out of the 45,000 square miles, in which Jews formed a majority, became the State of Israel.
...The final establishment of Israel as a State was effected in 1948 when, on the termination of the British Mandate, the General Assembly of the United Nations created a Jewish and an Arab State by partitioning the country.
source

I've heard of Slovakia? But, where is it? It it near Paraguay?

No. Was he an orthodontist in Manhattan?

Foofie wrote:

I've heard of Slovakia? But, where is it? It it near Paraguay?

well, i was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt and discuss whatever you bring to the table, but i fold. i believe we have a troll on our hands.

old europe wrote:

Foofie wrote:

Sorry, only German citizens count, since my preferences only have to do with the political entity of Germany, since it includes in its history the two world wars. I really am not interested about the people in Germany. In my opinion, they have become very Jewish in their successful efforts to make money and even in their oftentimes speaking two languages (that was a negative stereotype of the International Jew - able to speak more than one language).

"I don't like Germans because of the Holocaust, and because the have become very Jewish."



Okay then...

At least, I've found out now why most US-Americans only speak one language: they won't be considered Jewish.

btw,old europe, LOVE your signature!!! :wink: