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CowDoc
 
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Reply Fri 8 Jun, 2007 08:41 am
Just got home last night as found out how much I'd been missing. Farmerman, I noticed a reference earlier to your taking diuretics. Are you taking Lasix? I don't know a better way than that to lower serum potassium levels.
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patiodog
 
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Reply Fri 8 Jun, 2007 09:36 am
I'd hope in light of recent events f-man's on an aldosterone antagonist at this point...
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farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 8 Jun, 2007 04:28 pm
Never took Lasix, but I was taking 25 mg (daily) of HCTZ. My docs are now evaluating my meds to try to do the K sparing thing as Pdog mentioned.
However, My dose of HCTZ has been lowered to 12.5 and then a cardura on top (for flavor) and Im still taking the K and now Mg Citrate.

My previous doc had prescribed me Diazepam !0 mg for whenever I got this arhythmia. My new team is really concerned that Ive been using that too long with my past history of alcohol. Ive been just stashing the valium even if I got the arhythmia , I just dont like feeling all spacey when Ive gotta be in top forM .
mAYBE WHEN THEY GET DONE WITH THE TESTS, iLL BE ASKED TO DUMP ALL THE VALIUM.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 8 Jun, 2007 04:31 pm
Wow . . . are you still alive ? ! ? ! ?















Coooool.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 8 Jun, 2007 04:35 pm
i ALMOST CAPPED MYSELF WHEN i SAW A PIC OF DYS FEET WITH A DOG PLOPPED ON EM..Looked like something out of an opening scene from Law an Order.
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Montana
 
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Reply Fri 8 Jun, 2007 05:04 pm
Laughing Yup, he's alive :-D
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2007 01:20 pm
I'm wealthy! I got my gold seeds implant yesterday. OUCH!
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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2007 03:29 pm
If they are of a specific basal frequency, you should be able to pick up Howard Stern on Sirius.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2007 03:39 pm
I just dropped in to say thanks to Patiodog--i didn't know about avocados and potassium, so when i went to the green grocer yesterday, i picked up bananas and avocados.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2007 03:44 pm
bananas have too much sodium Ive learnt. And avocados really suck .

CI, do you know which isotopes of gold (Au) they shot into you? Most of them except Au 195 have half lives of 1 tp 3days . 195 has a half life of about half a year, so itll be there for at least 7 half lives 9almost 4 years). SO Im thinking they used Au 194 cause itd be pretty much out of you in a week and a half.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2007 03:47 pm
It has to last for the duration of the treament, five days a week for seven weeks. The treatment may start before the end of this month.
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Chumly
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2007 03:50 pm
farmerman wrote:
bananas have too much sodium Ive learnt. And avocados really suck.
Quote:
1. A ten-year study of nearly 8,000 Hawaiian Japanese men concluded: "No relation was found between salt intake and the incidence of stroke." (1985)

2. An eight-year study of a New York City hypertensive population stratified for sodium intake levels found those on low-salt diets had more than four times as many heart attacks as those on normal-sodium diets - the exact opposite of what the "salt hypothesis" would have predicted. (1995)

3. An analysis by NHLBI's Dr. Cutler of the first six years' data from the MRFIT database documented no health outcomes benefits of lower-sodium diets. (1997)

4. A ten-year follow-up study to the huge Scottish Heart Health Study found no improved health outcomes for those on low-salt diets. (1997)

5. An analysis of the health outcomes over twenty years from those in the massive US National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHANES I) documented a 20% greater incidence of heart attacks among those on low-salt diets compared to normal-salt diets ( 1 2 ) (1998)

6. A health outcomes study in Finland, reported to the American Heart Association that no health benefits could be identified and concluded "Â…our results do not support the recommendations for entire populations to reduce dietary sodium intake to prevent coronary heart disease." (1998)

7. A further analysis of the MRFIT database, this time using fourteen years' data, confirmed no improved health benefit from low-sodium diets. Its author conceded that there is "no relationship observed between dietary sodium and mortality." (1999)

8. A study of Americans found that less sodium-dense diets did reduce the cardiovascular mortality of one population sub-set, overweight men - the article reporting the findings did not explain why this obese group actually consumed less sodium than normal-weight individuals in the study. (1999)

9. A Finnish study reported an increase in cardiovascular events for obese men (but not women or normal-weight individuals of either gender) - the article, however, failed to adjust for potassium intake levels which many researchers consider a key associated variable. (2001)

10. In September, 2002, the prestigous Cochrane Collaboration produced the latest and highest-quality meta-analysis of clinical trials. It was published in the British Medical Journal and confirmed earlier meta-analyses' conclusions that significant salt reduction would lead to very small blood pressure changes in sensitive populations and no health benefits. (2002)

11. In June 2003, Dutch researchers using a massive database in Rotterdam concluded that "variations in dietary soidum and potassium within the range commonly observed in Westernized societies have no material effect on the ocurrence of cardiovascular events and mortality at old age." (2003)

12. In July 2004, the first "outcomes" study identifying a population risk appeared in Stroke magazine. Researchers found that in a Japanese population, "low" sodium intakes (about 20% above Americans' average intake) had one-third the incidence of fatal strokes of those consuming twice as much sodium as Americans. (2004)

13. March 2006 analysis of the federal NHANES II database in The American Journal of Medicine found a 37% higher cardiovascular mortality rate for low-sodium dieters (2006). See their university's news release. Hear a podcast.

14. A February 2007 reported in the International Journal of Epidemiology studied 40,547 Japanese over seven years and found "the Japanese dietary pattern was associated with a decreased risk of CVD mortality, despite its relation to sodium intake and hypertension." (2007)

15. An April 2007 article in the British Medical Journal found a 25% lower risk of CV events in a group which years earlier had achieved significant sodium reduction during two clinical trials (TOHP I and TOHP II). (2007)
http://www.saltinstitute.org/28.html
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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2007 03:52 pm
Whoa. MAybe Au 198. I think that one is about 3.5 days, so 7 half lives is about 4.5 weeks. Unless they did a graduated amount so that they may inject you again?

Even when we are sick we have to know. The best way I found out , for me to be discharged , was to ask if I could take apart the Echo cardiogram or play with it with some coins under my pillow.
They said no Crying or Very sad
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kickycan
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2007 03:57 pm
Hey FM, you alright? I heard you had some medical problems. Hemorrhoids are a bitch, eh? Anyway, I hope that swelling has gone down and you're feelin' better now.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2007 04:09 pm
Chum. your "risk group" should include those with hypertension. The correlation is quite clear regarding NA intake and hypertensive patients. I dont know how the "SALT INSTITUTE" would not be considered totally objective anyway Very Happy

Im not gonna follow up those quotes, Im being treated by a committee of really good cardiologists and internal med specialists and a urologist.

Im gonna go with their reccomendations . However, I will hand them a printout of the salt institutes quotes that you gave me and see what they ahve to say. Ever since my K/Mg levels were set at a constant titer, my arhythmias, An almost constant problem with me for years, has gone awy. Im looking for my previous doctor and have some words with his poor results with me. Theyve tried to keep my Mg at 3 meQ/L and my K at 4+meq/L. This has been accomplished in two weeks of trial and testing.
Im not doubting that the salt institute isn being honest for people who DONT have essential; hypertension, but Im not in that group.


Kicky--Its soon watermelon season. Time to get yerself a new sex partner
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kickycan
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2007 04:15 pm
I love me some big melons.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2007 04:17 pm
No more injections; two for the whole process from the biopsy (9) to the implant (3) to treat this cancer is plenty enough pain for any cure. The treatment will sap my energy for a few weeks, but should be fully recovered in 4 to 6 weeks.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2007 04:20 pm
Hey, get you some good DVD's , set on yer ass and take it easy for the summer. DONT be trottin around or youll just possibly be undoing what your paying them to do. I think some moderate exercise and just eat normally. No trips to Bomboozastan or East Jabipp for a coupla months , please.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2007 04:24 pm
farmerman, Thanks; I intend to "take it easy" and lay around the house for the duration. No trips planned outside the city limits, and no activity beyond going out to eat is all.
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Chumly
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2007 04:31 pm
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