mysteryman wrote:Because it was my hypothetical.OCCOM BILL wrote:rabel22 wrote:What if they hopped the fence on the other side of the park because they couldn't afford the extraordinary admission price, chose seats that would have been vacant otherwise and it slowed you down, not at all? Upon learning of it; would you feel the urge to scream? What if instead of a ball park; they were just after a crappy job and enough to eat? Still screaming?Let me pose a question to whomever. I am standing in line for 3 hours waiting to buy tickets to a ballgame. Five or six hispanics cut in line ahead of me. When I get to the window i'm told sorry we just sold the last ticket. If I start screaming about the people who cut in line ahead of me, does this make me racial bigot.
How do you know those seats would have been empty otherwise?Are you going to pick the oranges that rot on the trees when there's so much as talk about a potential raid? I think not.
DontTreadOnMe wrote:Only if someone's deliberately missing the point. Point: Those standing in line are effected NOT AT ALL... you know, just like immigration. For the record; everyone of them who qualified would get a green light under King Bill as well. :wink:OCCOM BILL wrote:What if they hopped the fence on the other side of the park because they couldn't afford the extraordinary admission price?
well, just like "dine and dash", that would be stealing wouldn't it ?
So,your assumption that I wont do those jobs is as usual...WRONG!!!
King Bill? OUCH!
Then you think wrong!!!
I have picked fruit (apples) and I have worked in the fields of central Ca.
When I first got off of active duty,I did many minimum wage or low paying jobs to support myself.
I have baled and stacked hay,washed dishes,and many other jobs you seem to think are beneath you.
So,your assumption that I wont do those jobs is as usual...WRONG!!!
naw, dude. you said jump the fence to see a game without paying. and whether or not any seats are empty or not, if you want to see the game, ya should pay for the tickets. if ya can't afford them.. well, i guess yer gonna miss the game. or the movie or whatever.
see? why should anyone pay for anything if they can get away with just stealing it ?
if that's the case, then i guess we can all look forward to losing our business', jobs, homes, families and all of the other stuff that we gain when we all play by the rules.
Did you really miss Rabel's post? The one I responded to that was clearly about the people getting bumped out of line... which was clearly a false example as illustrated? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt; but if you come back deliberately missing the point again I'll assume you've lost your mind.if by king bill you mean clinton... mmmm.. you need to remember that the only amnesty given out by the american government was by the administration of ronald reagan. it had all of the same language that the current proposal has. and it was a one time deal. just like the current says.
yet, here we are, 20 years later, doing the exact same thing for the second time.
they say that the definition of stupidity is repeating the same act over and over and expecting a different result.
Or hunt and peck for another 20 years while making bold pronouncements that are long on talk and short on action.and sorry, again about clinton.. that argument is way, way past it's expiration date. but it is a convenient way to avoid acknowledging the uninterupted parade of absolute fubars that the bush administration has treated us to for the last 7 years.
You were off-base in the first place. The King Bill I was referring to was yours truly. :wink:
DontTreadOnMe wrote:naw, dude. you said jump the fence to see a game without paying.
naw, i saw it bill. the only part i was referring to was your comment about hopping the fence cuz they wanted and couldn't afford, so they took. just a small picking of a nit. i just think stealing is a bad thing and has ramifications beyond the immediate circumstance. not really about the illegal thing.. (this time ;8 >)- )
as far as losing my mind goes.. well, i'll tell ya.. i'm sitting here in an east tennessee town of about 8,000 people (pop's in the hospital), i don't know anyone, he has basic cable, i'm totally bored and almost out of beer..
yep... i have indeed lost my mind !!!
DontTreadOnMe wrote:if by king bill you mean clinton... mmmm.. you need to remember that the only amnesty given out by the american government was by the administration of ronald reagan.
Interesting selective memory, that. I seem to remember Tax Evaders, Traitors, Drug Dealers and all manner of scum receiving Amnesty from Mr. Clinton. Hell, Rich just bought a pass, not having ever been tried at all. :wink:
mmm, i was referring to "immigration" amnesty.., but okay. never said that b.c. was an angel.
but really, the main point is that "clinton has not been president for a very long time"..
ooohhh ooohh ooohhh ! i just remembered ! apparently bush has the same selective memory loss; marc rich was repped by, and secured an amnesty by..... scoooter libby ! TA-DAH !!
DontTreadOnMe wrote:Agreed. Let's follow some more of Ronnie's advice when family members are separated by an inane wall. tear down this wall. If you think the twits in Washington can legislate away poor hungry people's desire for something better, you really are losing it. The best solution; is the one that's workable. Wanna find the 5 criminals in a group of 100? Decriminalize the actions of the other 95.yet, here we are, 20 years later, doing the exact same thing for the second time.
they say that the definition of stupidity is repeating the same act over and over and expecting a different result.
that would be a great idea, except we will be doing the same thing again in 2027. sorry, bill. i just don't think this is gonna change a thing. i'd be really happy to be wrong about that though.
DontTreadOnMe wrote:and sorry, again about clinton.. that argument is way, way past it's expiration date. but it is a convenient way to avoid acknowledging the uninterupted parade of absolute fubars that the bush administration has treated us to for the last 7 years.
oh... many pardons majesty. damn and confustigate me for a varlet.
okay, bro.. gotta go find some beer. this place has quite strong blue laws and manana is sunday.
