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Lola's Salon

 
 
HofT
 
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Reply Thu 13 Mar, 2003 02:57 am
Withers - kindly attend to darling horse Ms. Stradee just rode in on, and call AvGas fuel truck for Mr. Timber's Warthog.

Ah, and can somebody run a bath for me, please, with lots of pink bubbles? <G>
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danon5
 
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Reply Thu 13 Mar, 2003 08:25 am
Nacogdoches!! Great old town.

c.i. Order a margarita for me too. Make it a round for everyone. Hey, that was a funny story. Actually Texas is very hard on drinking and driving with the motto 'You can't afford it'.

timber, you may have given us the 'famous last words' line of the year.

Well, Well, Stradee flying horses, HoT in pink bubbles and Lola - Lola, you just need to talk to your horse. They are smart and do understand simple instructions.

Mmmm, margarita good. Mmmm.
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 13 Mar, 2003 10:46 am
Gonna round up some dowgies, spin my lariat and see how many gingham dresses I can lift accidentally. Gonna order up my usual (sasparilla - but in a glass that's never been cleaned). Gonna ride into the sunset with townfolks wondering about me and waving. Gonna be gone by the time their daughters spill the beans. Gonna sing. Gonna drift off to sleep with the stars bright as bullet holes and with the sound of coyotes choking on the sandwiches my Texas belle packed. Gonna keep my boots on no matter what and I'm gonna scratch my crotch a lot and I ain't gonna use no fungicides. I'm gonna keep my eye out for locoweed. Gonna curse so raw the moon'll bleed and the cactuses'll want their mommies. Gonna trick ride and pee - no hands - while standin on my saddle and cross-draw shootin every damn mailbox I see. Gonna make perfect rollies behind my back with one hand and strike the match across my eyeball. I'm gonna thrust up my fist at the blazin midday sun and call it yella. Gonna leap onta runaway stage coaches and hang out the window holdin the broken axle together with my bare hands. Gonna sing. Gonna sing about my Texas belle and about heartbreak.
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hiama
 
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Reply Thu 13 Mar, 2003 10:57 am
Dang I told you Blatham you ARE getting old. Time was you could do all that and run the country single handedly and work on 17 million simultaneous quadratic equations, wash down a herd of 50,000 steers all kickin' and a hollerin' like, open up 22 different restaurants across 3 continents whilst standing on one leg, take a lasso and hurl it round the moon pull it in to light yer stogie and all before Breakfast.

What happened to ya feller ?

You aint half the man I remember...
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Ethel2
 
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Reply Thu 13 Mar, 2003 11:13 am
Talking nicely to horsey. "There there, fella, I'm new at this so please don't worry if I seem a bit insecure. I usually bluff in situations like this one, but I can tell you may call my bluff."
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 13 Mar, 2003 11:49 am
I wouldn't fool with Lola if I were you, horsie. Just take it as good advise. Wink c.i.
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Stradee
 
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Reply Thu 13 Mar, 2003 12:14 pm
Lola's Salon
Lola ~ not to worry ~ you're doing just fine. Darling horses listen attentively for their human's voices.

Danon ~ can you tell us a bit about Native Indian Culture in Texas? What tribes reside there? I'm so interested in early Western history and the culture of the times. Thanks for the great tour so far Smile
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Stradee
 
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Reply Thu 13 Mar, 2003 12:42 pm
Lola's Salon
"Hi Hoft " greets Stradee "Glad you could join the tour ~ all waiting to meet
your new darling horse ~

http://www.equusite.com/articles/basics/basicsColors.shtml

Stradee wonders why Blatham's chaps standing by the chuck wagon sans their elusive owner < who has left Buttons in Hiama's care> and now dashes
keystoneish about the North Forty causing a cattle stampede! Laughing
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danon5
 
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Reply Thu 13 Mar, 2003 01:07 pm
Stradee, I have to thank BillW for his really nice piece on Nacogdoches. That was great.

The very early Native Am's in NE TX area were the Caddo Indians. They were farmers mainly and had an advanced written legal system and government - it is unusual for Native Am's to be writing anything to start with - muchless have established laws. But, there you are.
They buried their loved ones in mounds - of which there are numerous ones all around the area - but more in AR, LA and MS than in NE TX.

The culture changed as it went S and W from Nacogdoches.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 13 Mar, 2003 01:14 pm
danon, You reminded me of something I heard before, that there was an Indian tribe that had written language and a legal system of government. Thanks for the reminder. The grey cells sometimes remember things when pricked with a needle. Wink c.i.
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Peace and Love
 
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Reply Thu 13 Mar, 2003 02:35 pm
Peace&Love, riding a beautiful black-and-white Paint gelding, catches up to the group. Jack (super black-and-white Border Collie) is running along beside.

Jack is very excited and barking. He knows that many of his friends come to Nacogdoches for the "Lone Star Cattle Dog Futurity" each year.

http://www.lscdf.com/2002Winners.htm

Peace&Love's friend, Tom, who handles his Border Collies from his wheelchair, had two dogs in the above link winner's circle. His Kennel Name is "Hatsoff Border Collies"....

http://www.hatsoffbc.com/


PaL promises Jack that they will ride by the arena while they're in Nacogdoches....

Very Happy
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Stradee
 
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Reply Thu 13 Mar, 2003 02:36 pm
Lola's Salon
Whoops ~ <neurons arn't firing in sequence today> Thanks BillW

Danon ~

The following link tells about how the Caddo's lived, tools implemented, plus
a Caddo dwelling. Info on one page, plus links giving a history of the culture. There's also a page where they've depicted each phase of building a cone shapped building where the indian farmers lived.

http://www.texasindians.com/caddo.htm

Thanks for the info Danon Very Happy
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danon5
 
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Reply Thu 13 Mar, 2003 02:45 pm
Great links Stradee!!
c.i. I think the Indians you're talking about were the Cherokee Indians from N GA region and the E coast. They even lived in brick (some two story) homes, wore European style clothing and had a newspaper. Then settlers found gold on their land and marched them all to Oklahoma so they could steal it all.
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BillW
 
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Reply Thu 13 Mar, 2003 03:03 pm
c.i., Sequoia was the first person in the history of man to invent an alphabet for a spoken language where no alphabet had existed. He went on to teach his people the language and eventually he published a newspaper for them.

He was Cherokee and they were the Indians moved from the east coast to Arkansas and Oklahoma on the trail of tears. The Cherokees had a constitution and government then reestablished same after moving west.

These things did not exist prior to their meeting European settlers though!
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 13 Mar, 2003 03:34 pm
BillW, Yes, I read about the Cherokees. A friend who's background includes Irish and Cherokee loaned me a book about their history. They were more advanced than the people committing human crimes by slautering them, and forcing their movement west. c.i.
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BillW
 
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Reply Thu 13 Mar, 2003 03:43 pm
Need to go to the sweetest town and one of the earliest settled towns in Texas - Honey Grove:

Quote:
Honey Grove is located in the southeast section of Fannin county. Honey Grove was first settled by Samuel Erwin of Tennessee in 1842. Erwin built a log cabin a short distance from the current town square. But, Samuel Erwin was not the first person to visit Honey Grove. Hunters knew it as early as 1816. In 1836, J.P. Simpson and a friend occasionally met hunters and a tale was regaled to them of the beauty & abundance of prey in at a beautiful site seen in 1816 south of the Red River in Texas. They described an area with a beautiful grove having an immense amount of honey deposits in addition to the large numbers of wildlife. Hence, the name of the place.... Honey Grove.

J.P. Simpson wasn't the only visitor to make a trek to HoneyGrove. A hunting party led by a 17 year old scout named Henry Stout from Tennessee with a friend named Davy Crockett through the area on a bear hunting expedition. Crockett had hoped to visit a friend in the area John Stiles but his friend wasn't home. Davy found himselfin Honey Grove & liked the area. He planned to return tosettle there after the Alamo issue was resolved. We know he died at the Alamo, so didn't get a chance to settle in Honey Grove, but the name Honey Grove remained with Davy's old campsite. Erwin's first neighbors were Captain Yeary who lived three miles south of the grove and Dr.Nicholson who came to Texas in 1837 with his brother, A.J. Nicholson. Other original settlers were John McKinzieJunior, J.T. Allen, James Gilmer, Wilson Allen, Dr. Gambill, J. Fuqua, David Drennen, and Thomas Hobbs. Gilmer purchased 320 acres from John Nicholson in 1845 at the price of $2.19 per acre. The land was the southernhalf of Honey Grove. Gilmer built a home of logs for his family near the west side of the present public square. He died in 1845 shortly after the cabin was completed. His pregnant wife & three small sons survived him. The baby,a fourth son, was born 3 months after James Gilmer died.

A Benjamin Walcott soon came to town arriving in 1846. Walcott was a millwright who had left New England for Ohio, then traveled on to Mississippi finally settling in Honey Grove. He formed a partnership with Erwin & then with James Gilmer's widow. He shared a business with Erwin & in 1848 Walcott married the widow Gilmer.

Walcott may have been the first Texas land developer. He & Erwin surveyed the area & began acquiring additional land which was partitioned & then sold in smaller lots to the influx of new Texas settlers. By 1856, Honey Grove had grown enough that a 2 story hotel was built in the southeast corner of the square by a Granville Tucker.

The hotel was directly south of Walcott's store. In 1858, Orville Smith took over the hotel and from that time, the hotel was known as the Smith Hotel. Honey Grove was Confederate through & through, so when the CSA called for volunteers, many of Honey Grove's able-bodied men joined up with Company "F" of the Texas 11th Calvary. Several units trained near Honey Grove before departing for battle areas. After the LateUnpleasantness also known as the War between the States and now known as the Civil War, Honey Grove's population bloomed growing from 300 rapidly to 400.

A newspaper called the Semi-Weekly Texas Citizen was published by John B. McCraw. The town had 72 businesses including 12 dry goods stores, 2 cotton gins,2 railroads, 2 lumber yards, 2 banks, 7 churches, 4 hotels, and an assortment of boarding houses and eateries. Honey Grove was incorporated in 1873 with J.H. Smith as the first mayor.



http://www.rootsweb.com/~txfannin/honey.html
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Ethel2
 
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Reply Thu 13 Mar, 2003 05:07 pm
Honey Grove...........I have relatives living in Honey Grove. Nice place, but for me......I prefer the big city.

Thanks Danon and BillW. so far very interesting stuff.
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BillW
 
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Reply Thu 13 Mar, 2003 05:12 pm
My family goes back to the 1850's in Honey Grove - originally, a little place northwest called Allen's Chapel.
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BillW
 
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Reply Thu 13 Mar, 2003 05:12 pm
Besides, it is right outside of Paris!
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Ethel2
 
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Reply Thu 13 Mar, 2003 05:12 pm
Do you think we might be related Bill?
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