U.S. Anthem in Spanish

I don't know if this has been brought up, but people saying they will do jobs at minimal wages with reduced benefits should be allowed, I say you are the real racists in this debate, plus you undercut the very principles you preach about people should expect to make a minimum wage and provide benefits. You are advocating a permanent underclass, a class that you want and expect to do your dirty work. I say lets put an end to it and provide a very liberal immigration policy whereas the people that come here can be treated with the same dignity as everybody else.

I say lets put an end to it and provide a very liberal immigration policy whereas the people that come here can be treated with the same dignity as everybody else.

anybody seen this?




Bush sang Star Spangled Banner en español during 2000 campaign
Wed May 03 2006 09:35:20 ET

"When visiting cities like Chicago, Milwaukee, or Philadelphia, in pivotal states, George W. Bush would drop in at Hispanic festivals and parties, sometimes joining in singing "The Star-Spangled Banner" in Spanish, sometimes partying with a "Viva Bush" mariachi band flown in from Texas."

So writes author Kevin Phillips in his book AMERICAN DYNASTY.

Last week, at the height of the illegal immigrant's boycott build up, Bush told reporters: "I think the national anthem ought to be sung in English."

That is how it should work. I want them to become legal.

My mother's situation was slightly different than that of a typical bracero though. She already knew English and had some high school education and planned so that when she entered she would not go into bracero work such as harvesting food and otehr manual labor jobs. She did the very smart thing of getting a job in a restaurant and then enrolling in a community college. While I do not believe every immigrant can follow a good plan like this one, I believe it is important to enter legally because you can actively choose NOT to enter into the migrant worker fields where exploitation occurs. You can get "normal" jobs and, I believe most important for immigrants entering without an education, recieve education at community colleges etc which opens up the chance to financially succeed.

El Diablo,

Had your mother entered illegally she would have been eligible for the 1986 amnesty and could have become legal (as many of her compatriots did).

If this had been this case... how would this change your outlook?

I'm for legalizing those who have already entered our country, so I don't htink it would change my outlook, but I can't be sure. However I'm also for strengthening borders to prevent against illegal immigration; those who are already here should be legalized so that they can pay taxes and benefit from welfare etc rather than be exploited and live in substandard conditions. But most importantly those who hire and exploit illegals should be jailed or heavily fined. Cyc's ideas on previous posts basically sum up my view on the topic.

No, as I said in the other thread, I favor legalization for every illegal in the country who has not been convicted of a felony.

I favor a program which gives those immigrants who are here, a path to become legal within 5 years, as long as they have no felonies on their record.

Si. Pienso que las idiomas extranos son importantes tambien pero en los estados unidos, ingles es necesario, para que tener èxito.

Basically, knowing more than one language is incredibly good and I think knowing more languages the better. However in our country, in order to achieve the most as well as be able to communicate well one should know english.

I stand corrected Cyclo and I apologize. You clearly did support legalization for long time illegal residents.

I guess it is hard to remember which of you says what, sometimes you all look alike to me. With you snuggling so close to Cj... well I hope you understand.