U.S. Anthem in Spanish

Yo no hablo bigot . . .

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I can see kinda understand a little bit that some are a bit frustrated about some singing the anthem in Spanish. But I can't share the extreme level of fiery indignation, especially after seeing the translation. Seems pretty reverential, to me...

Is it like the irritation I get sometimes when several Latino workers in the same office huddle and speak Spanish, leaving out the uniligual Americans? Because if it is, I can share the irritation, but I ain't willing to fight over any crap like that.

Is it something that comes out of a feeling of betrayal, because they aren't "respecting" the English language enough? I can't really empathize there - that kind of sentiment leans too far towards nutso nationalism for my tastes.

Can someone tell me what it is, in one or two simple sentences, that stirs up so much bile in their guts when the anthem is sung in Spanish?

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snood

I'm not certain but I think the curious response you inquire regarding arises out of the same sort of mindset as those earlier protests from the thirties at hearing "Deutchland Uberalis" sung in the Yiddish.

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Is it like the irritation I get sometimes when several Latino workers in the same office huddle and speak Spanish, leaving out the uniligual Americans? Because if it is, I can share the irritation, but I ain't willing to fight over any crap like that.

I used to have to deal with that when I hauled produce out of Ca to the east coast.

I solved that by jumping right into their conversation,in spanish.
They,all of a sudden,spoke better english then I do.

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Gee, MM. All of them?

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Personally,I dont care what language the national anthem is sung in,it could be in Swahili for all I care.
I think its more important to understand the reason the poem was written,the story behind it,and the reason it was written.

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Personally,I dont care what language the national anthem is sung in,it could be in Swahili for all I care.
I think its more important to understand the reason the poem was written,the story behind it,and and what events shaped the writers perspective at the time.
Unless you understand that,then the National Anthem is just words,and nothing more.

Sorry for the double post,I hit submit accidently.

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mysteryman, what I find facinating is Bushie saying the anthem should be sung only in English when he himself has sung it in Spanish on the campaign trail. I guess he dont have to pretend anymore.

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blueflame1 wrote:

mysteryman, what I find facinating is Bushie saying the anthem should be sung only in English when he himself has sung it in Spanish on the campaign trail. I guess he dont have to pretend anymore.

Does anyone have a transcript of Bush singing the anthem in spanish or even a date and time?

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W's anthem-nesia:
He sang in Spanish

BY KENNETH R. BAZINET
DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU

WASHINGTON - President Bush says the national anthem should only be sung in English, but he was apparently singing a different tune during his first run for President and at his inaugural festivities.
On the campaign trail in 1999, Bush would often sing along as the national anthem was sung in Spanish during stops in Hispanic communities, GOP scholar Kevin Phillips wrote in his book "American Dynasty."

After Bush was elected, Cuban exile and pop vocalist Jon Secada also sang the "The Star-Spangled Banner" in both English and Spanish at the 2001 opening ceremony of the presidential inaugural, according to media reports at the time.

The White House had no immediate comment, claiming it was unaware of the reports of those instances, which Democrats and their allies eagerly shared with reporters.

Bush and Secada sang the actual national anthem in Spanish, and not the new song with different lyrics and music that has angered many English-speaking Americans.

Nonetheless, Bush still appeared to have amnesia when he suggested last week that the "The Star-Spangled Banner" is an English-only tune.

"I think the national anthem ought to be sung in English," Bush said.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ned=us&q=bush+sang+national+anthem+in+spanish&btnmeta%3Dsearch%3Dsearch=Search+the+Web

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snood wrote:

Can someone tell me what it is, in one or two simple sentences, that stirs up so much bile in their guts when the anthem is sung in Spanish?

That's easy.

The media.

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I thought that was the "liberal" media.

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edgarblythe wrote:

Screw you, parker. You don't give a **** if the transalation is accurate or not, you just came here to bash.

First of all I do care about the accuracy of the translation and the fact that it was translated in the first place. And if I have to bash those that think any insult to the United States anthem is merited provided done under the despicable guise of liberalism then it is a bash I am proud of.

Some people think "freedom" is a catch all phrase for every ridiculous notion that can be thought up. It's sad really.

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Cycloptichorn wrote:

You accuse the Liberals of being hypocrites and condemn them for doing something that they actually haven't done in real life. Real convincing argument there.

Wrong! They have repeated condemned cultural insensitivity - generally when dealing with degenerate fundamentalist Islamics (remember the uproar about the later disproved desecration of the Koran at Gitmo) - and yet when something like this comes along supporting an ultra-liberal cause, amnesty for all illegals, your whole camp is right behind it.

Cycloptichorn wrote:

Your 'essence of the song' argument is highly subjective, yet you treat your pronouncement as fact. Are you the final arbiter of whether or not the essence of a song remains after transalation, or is it a matter of opinion?

Wrong! Again the liberal glasses are clouding your vision. I criticized the translation. The expression "essence of the song" is what I consider bio waste. I don't care about the "essence" that is a stupid notion thought up by other liberals in an attempt to justify what is an outrage. The translation transforms the original. That's what I care about. Who cares about the "essence of the song".

Cycloptichorn wrote:

You're really doing a great job establishing yourself as a non-partisan voice of reason early on in your posting career.

My posting career. Wow. There's something I care about. Cycloptichorn, I think my 20 or so posts already show I've had too much free time, or poor time management. And I hate a good half of what the Republicans do as well, so partisanship isn't a good write off. It's just that what the Democrats do is about 98.5% bovine excrement, so I have to go with the numbers.

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It's just a song, and not that good a song. I suspect that if it were perfectly translated 99% percent of those bitching would find another line of attack.

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Parker Cross wrote:

My posting career. Wow. There's something I care about. Cycloptichorn, I think my 20 or so posts already show I've had too much free time, or poor time management. And I hate a good half of what the Republicans do as well, so partisanship isn't a good write off. It's just that what the Democrats do is about 98.5% bovine excrement, so I have to go with the numbers.

This comment reminds me that every time a conservative(Repug) attempts to describe a liberal (Democrat) he always...ALWAYS describes himself. Yep.... I do believe that Mr/Ms Cross is just about 100% bullschitt!

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shrug. I just don't concern myself with people who can't add anything other than partisan insults.

There's something that seperates A2K from other political discussion boards, believe it or not, and that's the high quality of the discourse with relatively little policing. Every now and then, Parker, we get people who do nothing but complain about what scum the Dems are, or what Scum the Republicans are, and absolutely nothing comes of it at all; no further discussion, no prediction, no nothing. So there's no point, really, in caring at all about it when there are far more cogent arguments out there to respond to.

It's your choice, of course; I wouldn't dream of telling you what to write or not to write. But you will find yourself ignored, by both sides of the isle, if you limit your discourse to grand statements about political parties and nothing else. If that's cool with you, I'm sure it's cool with everyone else, too. If you would rather contribute to the discussion, I don't see any reason why that wouldn't be cool too.

Cycloptichorn

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Well said, Cyclops.

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I agree with Cycloptichorn--"Grand statements about political parties" are to be abhorred. By everyone. It is, as I am sure that Cycloptichorn would agree, given his dictum above, to declare that the entire Democratic Party is composed of a group of liars just because its leader( Bill Clinton) was an inveterate liar. I am sure that Cycloptichorn would not label the entire Republican Party as a WAR Party just because of advice received by someone like Mr. Wolfowitz.

However, I must agree that Parker Cross had a point. I cannot understand why the world media is so concerned about the alleged desecration of the Koran in Guantanamo( a charge that has not been proven)but will staunchly defend a blasphemous abberation called "Piss Christ" by Serrano.

If the Koran is to be treated as a Holy Book( and I agree that it should be) then the Christ who is considered as God by millions of Americans should not be blasphemously depicted.

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BernardR wrote:

If the Koran is to be treated as a Holy Book( and I agree that it should be) then the Christ who is considered as God by millions of Americans should not be blasphemously depicted.

Obviously, one of these two circumstances was used in a military prison as part of controversial interrogation techniques. The other was art in the general public. Any fool can see that these two occurances are completely different.

If you want to make a general partisan rant, the Danish cartoons, or The Satanic versus are probably better to compare with "Piss Christ"-- but both of these were published and defended by many.

But this seems a bit off topic (though not completely since the original post was about blasphemy I guess)-- But do we really want to continue down the path of partisan bickering?

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