Strip Clubs - How do you feel about them

Hall and Oates happened just as I was kissing off the music industry. I don't know anything for or against them, ne'er mind sexuality, I seem to remember them as being yet more boring. So, really, I have nothing useful to say about them in particular.

I'm not sure about THAT rose, but I remember when I was standing in line waiting for financial aid at the start of this semester the two people ahead of me in line were talking about blue roses (of two varieties) and talking about growing them etc. Also I seem to remember a couple years ago reading an article about some scientist who had blown everyone away by creating a "true" blue rose. So I'm pretty sure they now exist after being legendary for a long long time.

There are no blue roses at the moment. Scientists have been able to create a mauve variety with a lot of genetic splicing.



They thought further work with these would yield a blue one but instead they either got a dark burgundy one or darker mauve flower.

The true blue rose, as of now, remains a unattainable.

Off topic a little limey...just got back from Miami Int airport...had a cortadito...was just like being in a S A city

You can handle Cuban coffe? I'm proud.

I don't like the idea of strip clubs (never mind what kind of "gentlemen" they are aimed at).

I think I grew up in an age when the PC views I was exposed to were not accepting of the objectification of women. I suppose I took that on board. I'm actually much more accepting of brothels, but have never used one, as (like Slappy) I'd rather pick up a woman based on the fact that she actually likes something about me other than my wallet!

I've been to several batchelor/stag parties during which the group has headed towards such an establishment. I've always made my excuses at that point...not always confronting the issue because I don't want to spoil the others' night.

One friend who did go to the chosen club on such an occasion came back feeling very dirty and I was interested to hear him talk about it. This is a guy who regularly downloads porn from the internet (i.e. no prude) but just didn't get the whole strip scene...he felt pity for the girls and a general sense of sadness about the whole thing.

Still never been and have no intention of doing so. It's become a point of principle, I suppose.

On the other hand, I'd never wish to have legislation against such clubs...provided every girl performing does so out of her own choice (as much as earning money is ever a choice).

KP

It is good to see you from time to time, KP.

My last duty station before being separated from the Army was at Fort Useless, Vagina (used the alias Fort Eustis, Virginia). There was the usual sad strip of titty joints, tailor shops and overpriced eateries just across the road from the military reservation.

We used to go into the one, honest to god bar there for a beer now and again. These types of pathetic exploitation joints routinely set up just outside training bases, which Fort Eustis is (was), but we were not trainees, and we left the base every day after work. But even that joint had topless waitresses, and an occassional topless dancer on the bar. Apart from not wanting the great hulking cow dancing over my beer and the bowl of peanuts there, the horrible bathos of the situation finally made me give up going there even just for a beer. The women were not physically attractive in any reasonable degree, and their look of hostile boredom certainly did nothing to aleviate the drab appearances they had. Simply having large milk bags attached to one's chest is not to be considered attractive, the more so when they sagged over a beer belly fully as large as or large than mine is now, nevermind when i was 21 and had no beer belly. It was pathetic, it was sad, it was degrading--the one thing it wasn't was exciting.

Good to see you too, Set.

I'm trying to make a little more time for this site and I love your new tag-line.

KP

I got that from a site which Timber linked in the "Evolution? How?" thread . . . it's a good one, ain't it?

For a thread about strip clubs, this thread sure has a lot less good detailed discussion of big jigglin' tits and asses then I'd have hoped for.

Just sayin'...

Hey KP, great to see you :-D

"A lot of Christians wear crosses around their necks. You think when Jesus comes back, he ever wants to see a ******* cross? Kind of like going up to Jackie Onassis with a rifle pendant on, you know.

The original quote from the late Bill Hicks-a very funny guy

Set, I'm in love. Do you think that gal is still alive?
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Prolly, but that was more'n thirty years ago--i suspect she is no longer in that line of work . . .

Ok, I've been in strip clubs, both when men were taking off their clothes and when women were. I found them to be a little sad. Actually, the women stripers-male clientel was a bit sad, the male strippers-female clientel was beyond sad - sort of cheesy.

Well if you found them sad...then you have to give them money, they get much happier.

That's even sadder. Watching the women who were stripping, on stage was fine. They were good dancers, they were somehow above the fray. But, the 2 girls we got to do a little dance for our guy friend were little scrawny things. They got up on a table and did some weird patting on each other. They weren't remotely into it. It was sad.

I recall going to a strip joint with a friend back in the 50s. This gal on the stage just pranced back and forth without dropping anything. My friend finally arrived at his end and shouted, "Well DO something." Everyone laughed but red-faced me.
The last strip show I saw was in 1961 at a joint called The Largo in Hollywood. The stripper's name was the predictable Candi Barr, the girl friend of the gangster, Micky Cohen. She had the reputation of being an extreme exhibitionist, to the point of having organisms on the stage. It sure looked like it.
And when I was only 9 years of age, I went to Las Vegas with my dad who led a small orchestra in one of the, now extinct, nightclubs. I was permitted to see the striptease performance of a beauty named Lily St.Cyr. I used to also go to the back of the hotel and talk with her when she sun-bathed her entire body. Too bad I was so young, but that's probably why they let me see the shows (in the nightclub and in the pasture in back).
Why am I complaining about my life; it's been grand. Oh, I think "Grand" was in the name of the hotel of the nightclulb.

Hmmm, perhaps I'm too European, but I see nothing degrading or sad in strip clubs. Well, sad - maybe, depending on situation, but certainly not in principle. But yes, our strip clubs have a much greater variety. I think strip clubs my father was telling me about - in the sixties - when women would undress while reciting poetry- sounds outright beautiful to me. And yes, it CAN be art.

As with anything, there is good striptease, and there is bad striptease. To put it all in one bag... well, I just ain't going there. Why would I...

Hi dagmaraka,
makes lotsa sense to me!