Well, people may think ill of me if they will, but i don't intend to let half of the "freak show," the half in which MOAN preens her ego on her virtues, go unchallenged--i intend to supply the second half of the freak show, the accusations against her, everytime she trots out the first half.
Well, ya know, playing preacher is very time consuming and taxing of the spirit. That is if she hasn't got the psychosis that she is God. Hope that lightining rod on her church is in good working order. Jerry Falwell has so many on his church roof, it looks like a Man Ray sculpture.
I do not like people who try to cloak their religious rhetoric in an obvious attempt to try and oppress another person or a group of people. It would be nice if they'd just keep their preaching to themselves and allow people to go to church if they so desire and get their theology from a professional.
I meant nothing condescending or nasty or anything like that when I made the statement I'd keep Lash in my prayers. It obviously was a poor choice of words because of the comments being thrown back at me.
When I pray for someone, Phoenix, I pray that they have peace, comfort, love, and joy in their lives. If I had realized wanting that for someone was such a vile and evil thing I would have taken greater care and not said it at all.
Setanta, I could care not one bit whether you even address me again.
If you all cannot figure out that I have been trying to make amends with Lash for awhile now, well, I don't know what to say to you.
She has told me it is not a possibility so I was telling her I was letting it go. But, it seems no one else is willing to do the same.
So I'm supposed to walk on eggshells for the rest of my life because I might make a mistake?
It's not possible for just the interaction with Lash but the very topic of this discussion. Quit your amateur preaching on this forum and you might get somewhere. We do not desire or need your prayers and if you believe we do, just keep it to yourself.
You're not just walking on eggshells, you broke the egg and it is on your face.
Oh come on.
Have you read this whole thread, Wiz? The prayer thing is annoying but that's been addressed, and there is a lot of other good stuff here that I don't want to see buried under pages of inane insults.
What do or don't care about, MOAN, is immaterial to me. You can be assured that i will comment whenever i see a post from you which i consider to be suspect as regards its honesty.
I guess it's been addressed, Sozobe, and I agree that the temperature has been rising a bit too high. Let's get back to the crux of the discussion and perhaps some can come back in with a clear head and actually relate to the topic.
Smooches!
Is there anything from your own experience you'd be willing to share? When you first knew, that kind of thing? You've said that you didn't have any particular problems, and I know you're not 20 ;-) -- have you spent your whole life in L.A. (is that where you are now? I forget) and in an atmosphere where there were other gay people?
I was going to say "where gayness wasn't a big deal," but of course that's the paradox of Hollywood -- many many gay people, but still an unusual level of hush-hush about the actors.
Just read something about Jodie Foster and how she's been living with a woman who is the "co-mother" to her kids and that they wear matching rings -- yet Jodie Foster is emphatically not "out." Is there any other industry where she'd feel similarly constrained, these days?
Momma Angel wrote:LightWizard Wrote:
Quote:It's being pathetically condescending to pray for someone as if they had some kind of affliction. You pray an alcoholic sobers up, or a person with a serious affliction can get a cure, or a war ends -- too many pray that their football team will win or they will get a new car. To pray for someone who disagrees with your mindset is just supercilious self--aggrandizement. If one can't see this, it's because they are blinded by their own egotistical issues.
This is also to J_B and it's the last I'm saying on this prayer subject.
It seems many have assumed what I would pray for Lash. At least Phoenix asked me what I would pray for her. I do not pray for new cars for people. I don't pray that God will change someone's mindset to mine. I pray the same thing for everyone. That we all gain understanding, that we all love each other, that we all find comfort and joy in life, and we all can get through the next day smiling at least one time. If that's an insult to anyone, I cannot apologize for that.
Good, apply that to the subject and you may be getting somewhere. Final statement on this from me: do all the praying you want but please refrain from announcing it.
We do not care.
Final statement from me, you have a very short memory, momma.
Lash, let it go..... <breathe in, breathe out> repeat....
Actors or any celebrity is, of course, paranoid about coming out and still in this day and age, I think they are wise to not announce it. It's really nobody's business but their own (a "Brokeback" line in the script, BTW). For instance, there's a certain fellow on American Idol that jokes are made about on a weekly basis and he's remained silent about it. He doesn't respond to the gay baiting.
Of course, I have had experience, one of them well known to older members of this forum and of Abuzz. One of my relationships in college was an Episcopalian priest and most of his friends were priests at other parishes in Southern California. Not so hard to comprehend that the first openly gay priest in America is Anglican. I helped Father Miller build a harpsichord for his home and he remained a friend throughout my lifetime (he has passed away).
I wonder if Jody Foster is more concerned about coming out for professional reasons over personal ones.
Jodie Foster has not tried to squelch the rumors as it is a personal consideration. I'm sure she feels it is her right to privacy. It is nobody else's business except, apparantly, those who can't resist buying National Inquirer every time they go through the supermarket checkout. These people are likely control freaks as much as most "religious" people are control freaks.
I'm not much of a celebrity watcher, but surely more people are coming out than before, no? At least the lesbians?
J_B wrote:Final statement from me, you have a very short memory, momma.
Lash, let it go..... <breathe in, breathe out> repeat....
I can understand Foster. I'm not a fan, but admitting homosexuality, is like a heterosexual making a statement about their favorite sex position. Some people don't mind, and others think it's ludicrous.
It's nobody's business.
Let's not forget that Rock Hudson was reluctant to be outed until he knew of his fate. Kind of like, "I owe the gay community this one." I can understand his dilemma as Confidentail Magazine had tried to out him in the 50's.
Lash, you hit the nail on the head.
