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The A2K (virtual) Weight Loss Club !!

 
 
George
 
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Thu 23 Jun, 2005 12:44 pm
Oof.
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George
 
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Thu 23 Jun, 2005 12:52 pm
I've never had much luck putting on serious muscle. I really think there
are some body types that respond better than others to weight training.
I seem to recall some theories about endomorphs, ectomorphs and
mesomorphs

I've also got relatively narrow shoulders (bone structure) for a guy and
am short-waisted. Let's see, any other feeble excuses I can offer?

Anyway, good luck. Any tips you can offer a middle-aged (soon to be 60)
guy trying to improve his body shape are greatly appreciated.
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Eva
 
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Thu 23 Jun, 2005 03:21 pm
And then, according to dlowan, there are "lagomorphs." Is that someone who's shaped like a lake? (Forgetting my Latin here.)
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dragon49
 
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Fri 24 Jun, 2005 08:21 am
Thanks Noddy!

i actually started trying to lose weight about 2 months before joining this. nothing happened at all until literally i joined this. well, i lost about 5 lbs in the first 2 months, then all of a sudden, boom! i have now plateaued again around the 170 mark, 16 lbs total since i started 3.5 months ago. don't know what to do now.

George, glad to hear you are a smaller body frame, makes me feel a little better about us weighing the same. I was measured when i was a competitve swimmer and was donned the large body frame, definitely not from my father's chinese side, but my mother's german side. Smile i have come to grips with the reality that i will never be one of those skinny minnies, but i would like to be leaner. i still have around 25lbs to go which i would like to lose by jan. 1, 2006. close to a pound a week so that seems feasible.
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Noddy24
 
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Fri 24 Jun, 2005 12:47 pm
dragon--

A pound a week is very realistic. I find weight loss a bit easier in the summer because heat destroys my appetite, yet I can exercise early or late or in air conditioning.

I just wish I remembered all the fun I had gorging myself to my present state. I'm a compendium of forgotten delights.
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Slappy Doo Hoo
 
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Fri 24 Jun, 2005 12:57 pm
George, I'm naturally very skinny. When I graduated high school I was 135lbs at my current height, which is 5'10...MAYBE 5'11. Before my strep throat episode I was 185, and pretty lean. So I've put on close to 50lbs or so of muscle since I've started lifting 7 odd years ago.

Anyway, starting yesterday, 178lbs, today 179(again, 1-2 lbs means nothing). This is going to be a shock to me: NO BOOZE FOR 6-8 WEEKS! Possibly 1, 2 beers over the course of a weekend, tops.

1+ gallons of water every day. Eat on the weekends. I use to not eat much on the weekends due to being hungover and lazy. Try to add another meal daily. And I'm adding in a 5th workout day on probably Saturdays, at least as much as I can. Pathetically, I've skipped the leg workouts for a while now, and have to get that back into the mix. That should easily account for a couple pounds.

Goal: 190. I stink. 2 years ago I was at the same weight I am today. Well actually I was carrying 5 lbs more than I am now for a while until I got sick. But back then I did nothing to reach my goal....
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dagmaraka
 
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Fri 24 Jun, 2005 01:03 pm
hmmmm, i haven't stepped on a scale for awhile. I guess ever since I'm boxing. Sometimes i ride my bike to the training, which is some 35-40 mins there, then 2 hour workous, and 25-30 mins back (downhill, thankgod). Probably didn't loose weight scale-wise, but I enjoy seeing my shoulder and back muscles get stronger. Boxing is IT, I haven't enjoyed any sport so much in a looooong looooong time, probably since my horseback riding years.
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George
 
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Fri 24 Jun, 2005 02:49 pm
Slappy Doo Hoo wrote:
...NO BOOZE FOR 6-8 WEEKS! Possibly 1, 2
beers over the course of a weekend, tops...


Oh no! The Nuclear Option!
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Slappy Doo Hoo
 
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Fri 24 Jun, 2005 04:05 pm
Boxing does look awesome. I know it's a pretty nuts cardio workout. I have a chick friend who's taking it too.

Dag, last time I saw you, I could see the look of "kill" in your eyes. Just use your new powers only when necessary, champ.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Fri 24 Jun, 2005 06:02 pm
Hi!

Haven't been around this thread for awhile. I had started to lose weight before I joined, but all in all, I have dropped 27 pounds.

I have been trying to get to the gym about 3 times a week. I walk to and from, three miles total, and then work out for about 20-30 minutes.

I was having back problems, so I bought myself a Futuro back brace. It really helps, and allows me to walk much faster.
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Sanctuary
 
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Fri 24 Jun, 2005 06:10 pm
Congrats all Very Happy

My goal is this: Lose 10 lbs by July 20th. I set that date on the 20th of this month, and am giving myself exactly four weeks (not to the day) to shed off 10 lbs.

I started working out and eating healthy about 5 weeks ago. I have since lost 7 lbs - putting me at around 208.

I haven't been under 200 lbs for years. Overweight my entire life, I don't even know what being skinny feels like. Alas, I never will - willingly. I am not looking to be skinny, merely thinner.

My ideal weight is around 180-170. I have a large frame and so I know I'll never get down to the "standard" weight for my age-range/height - which is perfectly fine to me! I enjoy the extra cushioning; it's just gotten to a point of unhealthy living, and so I'm looking to get to a weight where I can be active, enjoy myself and life, but also keep some curves and flesh :wink:

I will report back here every Monday - that's my ritual weigh-in day.

Thanks for the support-thread - I only wish I had came across it sooner!
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Noddy24
 
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Fri 24 Jun, 2005 06:59 pm
Phoenix--

Being physically active makes emotional tangles a lot easier to deal with. Even if your mother's condo is a one room efficiency, clearing it out will be air conditioned exercise.

Twenty-seven pounds. I'm impressed.

Hold your dominion.


Sanctuary--

Welcome--Monday and every other day. We do a lot of chatting--and forgiving each other.

____


Me? Neighborhood crisis. When everyone gets on the same page of modern medicine--(they are starting c. 1900, although germ theory is accepted)--I'm going to have either a large bourbon and water or an enormous bowl of strawberries and ice cream.

Meanwhile, I will not snap, scream or call names.
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ConstitutionalGirl
 
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Sat 25 Jun, 2005 10:48 am
I didn't get any excersise in this week and I gained seven pounds.
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Noddy24
 
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Sat 25 Jun, 2005 12:07 pm
Constitutional Girl--

Perhaps some of this gain is due to water retention. If not, you ate 24,500 more calories than you burned.

This is like eating more than 40 Big Macs over and above what you need to maintain your weight.
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Slappy Doo Hoo
 
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Sat 25 Jun, 2005 12:24 pm
ConstitutionalGirl wrote:
I didn't get any excersise in this week and I gained seven pounds.


Are you taking anabolic steroids, by chance? Dayum!
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Slappy Doo Hoo
 
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Sat 25 Jun, 2005 12:24 pm
Just kidding. Did you weigh yourself on a different scale than usual?
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George
 
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Sun 26 Jun, 2005 02:22 pm
27 pounds???!!!
Outstanding! Over how long a period of time?
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Noddy24
 
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Sun 26 Jun, 2005 03:35 pm
I saw this article in the Sunday newspaper and read it avidly.

I'm not sure whether I'm impressed by the weight loss or smug because I was never that bulky.

Half-ton man loses 573 pounds in year
Nebraska man was dying before gastric bypass surgery.
By Sharon Cohen
Of The Associated Press

June 26, 2005

VALENTINE, Neb. | He still is a mound of a man, but his blue eyes widen with delight as he presses his chest with his fingertips, smiles mischievously and makes the grand announcement: He can FEEL his ribs.

To Patrick Deuel, this small moment is huge. Headline huge.

Man Can Feel Ribs ?- A First in 25 Years.

One year ago, Deuel weighed 1,072 pounds. He was so enormous that his bedroom wall had to be cut out to extract him from his home. Then, he was rushed to a South Dakota hospital in an ambulance with extra-wide doors that had to be dispatched from Denver.

One man. More than a half-ton. Mind-boggling.

So, too, were the grim realities of Deuel's life. He hadn't left his bedroom in seven months. He'd barely been outside in seven years. He couldn't sit up. He couldn't roll over by himself. He had heart trouble and diabetes.

Patrick Deuel was dying. A photo taken last June shows a pneumatic-like figure sprawled helplessly on his stomach looking like an inflated balloon.

Now 12 months after being hospitalized for gastric bypass surgery, Deuel sits on a love seat that is propped up on cement blocks. He still looks like a plus-sized Buddha. But he is less than half the man he used to be and that, his doctor says, is amazing progress.

Deuel concurs.

''I'm used to looking in the mirror and seeing the Michelin man,'' he says. ''All of a sudden … I look a little more like a human being and I say, 'Ooooh, my God, where did HE come from?' ''

Deuel is happy he can feel his ribs and see bones in his hands. But nothing is more thrilling than that number on the scale: 499 pounds.

He pumps an arm in triumph. He hasn't been south of 500 in two decades.

Deuel now goes out almost every day, walks a bit and thinks about all the things he hopes to do someday.

''Life,'' he says, ''is infinitely better.''

Weight always an issue

Patrick Deuel's weight was off the charts before he even knew it.

Before he could walk or talk, he says, medical records defined him as obese.

By the time the ambulance pulled into his driveway in this tiny town more than 40 years later, Deuel had long been a prisoner of his many pounds. He couldn't work, attend a football game, or ?- for a time ?- even sit in his parent's home.

And he wasn't shy about talking about it.

When Deuel arrived at Avera McKennan Hospital in Sioux Falls, S.D., he welcomed the spotlight, determined to prove he was no Guinness Book footnote but a man with a message: Obese people suffer because the health care system and insurance companies don't do enough to help them.

He also liked being an inspiration.

''If I can lose weight, anybody can do this ?- and I mean ANYBODY,'' he says. ''My willpower is basically zero.''

In the year since, Deuel's story has brought him more than 2,000 e-mails and letters from as far as China and Saudi Arabia. He has acquired an agent and filmed a British documentary. And he has talked openly ?- and often humorously ?- about his obesity.

''My dad says I was supposed to be 8-foot-4,'' he jokes, ''but I quit growing.''

Deuel, 43, was a fast-food junkie hooked on pizza, chips, beef jerky and chili dogs. He also gobbled down cherry blintzes and ambrosia (a creamy fruit, marshmallow and coconut concoction).

While those days are over, Deuel doesn't exactly believe in total deprivation.

He exercises with bar bells and weights, but still smokes (he's cut down to a pack a day), saying he can't kick two bad habits at once. And he defiantly refuses to consider any foods taboo.

''If you have a craving and don't take care of it, it's going to grow and grow and grow and it's going to make you do something stupid ?- binge,'' he says.

About twice a month, Deuel indulges in foods most dieters would consider off-limits: a piece of chocolate, an ice cream bar, nachos.

''I've lost 102 pounds in 70 days, eating what I wanted,'' he says. ''Tell me it doesn't work. … For me, the easiest way to stay on my diet and not go absolutely crazy to is eat (to satisfy the craving), get that out of the way and get back on the program.''

Surgery a success

Dr. Fred Harris, the Sioux Falls surgeon who operated on Deuel last fall, understands ?- to a point.

''An occasional indiscretion is OK,'' he says. ''Every once in a while you have to have a piece of chocolate, providing you're not carrying the bag around all the time.''

Harris' speaks from personal experience. Three years ago, he had bariatric surgery.

Practically speaking, Deuel can't eat as he once did. Surgery initially reduced his stomach size from two to three liters to the end of a thumb. Now, with the swelling long subsided, he can eat four to eight ounces of food at once. Anything more, he may feel pain or vomit.

Deuel concentrates on high-protein, low-salt foods: cottage cheese, refried beans, spinach, asparagus, non-breaded shrimp, steak, roasts, cheese.

So far, so good.

Harris says bariatric surgery works if a patient loses more than 50 percent of excess body weight. ''If Patrick wouldn't lose another pound, I'd think he had been a success,'' he says.

Or, the doctor adds, look at it this way: ''He's lost two NFL defensive linemen.''

It was Deuel's hometown doctor who called Harris last year after she arranged for her patient to get emergency care for neglected dental work and realized he needed more help.

''It was clear we had a dying patient,'' Harris says. ''I told him, 'We don't have weeks. We have days or hours.' ''

Harris says Deuel's weight problems are not simply from overeating.

''I'm absolutely convinced the basic, overlying cause for morbid obesity is genetic,'' Harris says. ''There's some nature, some nurture. But it's like wanting to have blue eyes and having brown eyes. You can't fight it.''

Dr. Samuel Klein, director of the Center for Human Nutrition at Washington University's School of Medicine in St. Louis, says it's likely there's a genetic predisposition to obesity, but that has not been proven. About 40 percent of weight variability, he says, is related to genetics.

To hear Deuel tell it, his troubles began when he was 3 months old and was diagnosed as morbidly obese. (Some medical experts say there's no way to make that assessment so young.)

Neither parent was fat, though one of Deuel's grandfathers weighed more than 300 pounds.

By high school, Deuel was 300 pounds, but found his niche, lending his tenor voice to choirs and his trombone-playing talents to bands. He only lasted one semester in college, then began working a variety of restaurant jobs.

He took advantage of free meals, he says, and ''made a lot of rotten choices.''

Deuel tried all kinds of diets ?- and lost 300 pounds on one, but quit because he couldn't afford the supplements.

In the mid-1980s, he fell and hurt his back and ended up on disability, making him even more sedentary.

But there was one positive turn in Deuel's life. Through a newspaper personals ad, he met Edith Runyan, a divorced school guidance counselor.

She found his personality appealing. ''He had a positive attitude about life even though he had been kicked in the teeth a lot emotionally,'' she says.

They married a decade ago ?- Deuel weighed 750 pounds ?- and his weight gain continued, his waist expanding up to 90 inches. Vertically, that would be about 7-foot-6, or the height of Yao Ming, the Houston Rockets star.

Now, a year later, Deuel can move gingerly with two walkers.

He hopes to become a motivational speaker and though he first talked about reducing to 240 pounds, he now says maybe he'll settle for more ?- it depends how he feels.
Copyright © 2005, The Morning Call

http://www.mcall.com/news/local/all-a9_weightjun26,0,1970981,print.story?coll=all-news-hed
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ConstitutionalGirl
 
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Sun 26 Jun, 2005 08:08 pm
Anyhow, my doctor wants me to take a 15 minute walk every day.

I'll take one by the end of the day, if I don't get any activity in.
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littlek
 
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Sun 26 Jun, 2005 08:43 pm
Take one anyway, activity or no.....
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