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@engineer,

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it is pretty clear that the top of the Republican party is actively promoting racism/racists beliefs.

How so? Be specific. It is not clear at all. You are listening to propaganda they call news. They have people hating who they are. What possible good can come out of that?

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@engineer,

engineer wrote:

I think the difference now is that it is pretty clear that the top of the Republican party is actively promoting racism/racists beliefs.

Huh, missed this. Thanks to Coldjoint for pointing that out.

I disagree with Engineer on this.

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@McGentrix,

So, how do you see Trump retweeting a White power tweet?

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I have the feeling that a lot of Republicans aren't supporting Trump so much as opposing what they see as extremism in the Democratic party. I voted for Hillary ******* Clinton... so I understand why people would vote for Trump.

Hopefully people in the Biden campaign understand this well enough to reach out to the middle.

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@maxdancona,

I don't see another Clinton on the horizon. I voted that way last time, but only because of Trump. I don't recall why he looked that bad last time, but I'm planning to vote against him again.

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@roger,

roger wrote:

I don't see another Clinton on the horizon. I voted that way last time, but only because of Trump. I don't recall why he looked that bad last time, but I'm planning to vote against him again.

I think anyone looking realistically at the situation would do the same.

The 30 odd percent of people who see Trump as doing a good job...are the reason so many Nigerian princes need help getting their fortunes out of a bank and are willing to share huge amounts if you are able to assist by sending them money.

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@McGentrix,

Of course, that is your prerogative, but if you choose to look the other way when party leaders post racist comments and tweets, you are implicitly supporting them. What is posted here is just a less filtered version of what is happening nationally.

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@engineer,

engineer wrote:

Of course, that is your prerogative, but if you choose to look the other way when party leaders post racist comments and tweets, you are implicitly supporting them. What is posted here is just a less filtered version of what is happening nationally.

This is nonsense. Show me a politician without sin.

I'll not hold my breath.

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@Frank Apisa,

Yes, it does seem that more often than not, racists aren't fans of the democrats. I find it particularly ironic since it was the Republicans that were for freeing the slaves, with the southern democrats wanting to keep them in the American civil war from what I've read about it.

Perhaps history has been forgotten by some Republican supporters...

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@justaguy2,

justaguy2 wrote:

Yes, it does seem that more often than not, racists aren't fans of the democrats. I find it particularly ironic since it was the Republicans that were for freeing the slaves, with the southern democrats wanting to keep them in the American civil war from what I've read about it.

Perhaps history has been forgotten by some Republican supporters...

We've discussed that many, many, many times in this forum. Without a doubt...during the mid-19th century, the Democratic Party was the party championing slavery...the party that was the home to American conservatives and racists.

The Republican Party was the party of abolitionism...the party, if you will, of the liberals.

Things have changed. The American South...once deeply committed to the Democratic Party is now just as deeply committed to the Republican Party.

Without a question, the Democratic Party was the party of the KKK and of racists, because the Democratic Party represented and championed those views.

Now...the Republican Party is the party of the KKK and racists.

Why do you suppose that is?

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@maxdancona,

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Izzy and friends are full of crap.

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If you are a liberal and you just want to burn down police stations and yell about Nazis, then carry on.

The above quotes from you, maxdancona, demonstrate a complete lack of understanding of comments made by others. Therefore, I would have question your understanding of the broader matters at hand. As you seem to say on one hand that you support common sense and sanity, but on the other hand, you seem to try and divorce facts from reality and end up going full circle.

Like it or not, trump while US "president" is effectively, if not, the leader of the Republican party. The tea party/trump element of the Republican party is very much behind trump and in firm control of the Republican party, and very rarely calls him out, even when he makes what can only be considered as racist and/or divisive comments. And even worse, all for trump's own political gain, and nothing but silence from the Republican party. Along with trump, they have marginalized most, if not, all moderate and sensible Republican politicians.

You seem to think that someone can just say "they don't support racism", but they don't have to actually demonstrate it. I think you are very wrong about that, and therefore it's hard to believe you are being sincere in your comments. And very much appears as if you're trying to have a bet each way. That doesn't inspire any faith or trust whatsoever in you or your comments, I'm afraid.

I think engineer says it the best:

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Of course, that is your prerogative, but if you choose to look the other way when party leaders post racist comments and tweets, you are implicitly supporting them. What is posted here is just a less filtered version of what is happening nationally.

Notice what's in bold font there? I would think if you are a programmer, you would understand the difference between "implicit" and "explicit", don't you?

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@Frank Apisa,

Frank Apisa wrote:

Now...the Republican Party is the party of the KKK and racists.
Why do you suppose that is?

It's no secret. It's because the media tells you so.

The weak willed have believed whatever the media spoon feeds them for a long time in America. It's no surprise that it continues today,

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Six years ago we had President Obama, who they was said was a Muslim. In fact they said that Obama was the president of Islamic terrorists. Were there islamic terrorists who supported Obama? Of course there were, it isn't that difficult to find people who supported Obama and justified acts of violence against Israel.

Now we have President Trump, who they say is the president of the KKK. I don't see much difference in this respect.

At some point Americans are going to have to stop shouting insults at each other and instead start listening to each other.

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@McGentrix,

McGentrix wrote:

Frank Apisa wrote:

Now...the Republican Party is the party of the KKK and racists.
Why do you suppose that is?

It's no secret. It's because the media tells you so.

The weak willed have believed whatever the media spoon feeds them for a long time in America. It's no surprise that it continues today,

No, McG.

The KKK and the avowed racists of America are now Republicans rather than Democrats for one of two reasons:

One, they have decided that racism is wrong and want to go over to the Republican side because it is less inclined toward furthering a racist agenda...

...or two...they figure the Republican Party is now the party that furthers a racist agenda.

Only an idiot would think #1 is the correct reason...which means, only a Republican would think that.

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@Frank Apisa,

Frank Apisa wrote:

No, McG.

The KKK and the avowed racists of America are now Republicans rather than Democrats for one of two reasons:

One, they have decided that racism is wrong and want to go over to the Republican side because it is less inclined toward furthering a racist agenda...

...or two...they figure the Republican Party is now the party that furthers a racist agenda.

Only an idiot would think #1 is the correct reason...which means, only a Republican would think that.

lol... so there are no racist Democrats Frank? Really? REALLY?!

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@McGentrix,

Since WW2 at least there’s never been a president as avowedly racist as Trump.

He’s praised Nazis, murderous police officers while vilifying black victims of police brutality and miscarriages of justice.

If you support Trump you’re supporting a racist and you’re supporting racism.

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@izzythepush,

I am tired extremist mud slinging. On one side I am a racist fascist. The other side thinks I am an socialist.

I don't really care whether I am a rapist or a terrorist. Maybe when I have time I will work it out.

Right now, I just want to find a dentist that will set up an appointment for my kid.

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@maxdancona,

why are you trying to control the direction this thread takes?

its not your thread...

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@McGentrix,

McGentrix wrote:

Frank Apisa wrote:

No, McG.

The KKK and the avowed racists of America are now Republicans rather than Democrats for one of two reasons:

One, they have decided that racism is wrong and want to go over to the Republican side because it is less inclined toward furthering a racist agenda...

...or two...they figure the Republican Party is now the party that furthers a racist agenda.

Only an idiot would think #1 is the correct reason...which means, only a Republican would think that.

lol... so there are no racist Democrats Frank? Really? REALLY?!

Where in the name of everything that exists...have I ever suggested that there are no racist Democrats???

Have you fallen off the edge of the cliff you have been playing near?

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@Region Philbis,

Region Philbis wrote:

why are you trying to control the direction this thread takes?

its not your thread...

Whose thread is it?

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