Let’s chat about the atheist religion.

To God be the glory!!!!!

Max wants Christians to have the character of Jesus at salvation. He is too impatient to wait for the Holy Spirit to complete the process of sanctification. He also wants us to love "poor people". He doesn't realize that ALL people are important to God

Ok fair enough,but be honest have you found any peace ? or do you just come on these forums to vent your anger? I want answers just as much as you or anyone else.I am just looking in a different way and getting the answers I want.

Ok, so you accept that everyone needs to accept Jesus sacrifice for atonement of their sins.That is what I have said all along.What if they don’t accept this free gift? is that God’s fault or anyone else’s fault.I totally agree a genuine Christian should have a real compassion for the lost but if they don’t listen, what can anyone do about that?

It sounds like blind faith, what you claim to have experienced could easily be attributed to techniques used by cults and religions.

I agree salvation is offered to all..and sanctification takes place after a person is saved.I agree totally.

Ok if that what you think,I agree there are a number of cults out there.It is for each individual to decide for themselves the validity of the Christian faith.I agree some are convinced but many aren’t.

Here is the real hypcrisy of Fake Christianity.

1. They are basically saying .... "Thank you Jesus for the blood you spilled, I get a free pass to heaven. Now I am going to live my life as I want. I don't need to show compassion. I don't have to obey the words of Jesus. I don't need to love my neighbor. I can do what I want, it doesn't matter because I have the blood.

2. However, if someone says... "Thank you Jesus for the blood you spilled, now I want to live a good life with the man I love in a same-sex relationship". It doesn't work that way.

Nastiness, hatred and judgement to people who are suffering is part of fake Christianity. It is encouraged, and if anyone points out the words of Jesus about love and compassion and mercy... they pull out the "blood of Jesus" as if the suffering of Christ is nothing more than a get out of jail free card.

The words and deeds of Jesus mean absolutely nothing to you. All you care about is getting your salvation.

This form of Christianity isn't biblical Christianity. They are making up some twisted American religion and then slapping Jesus' name on it. It has very little to do with the life or words of the Biblical Jesus.

This is fake Christianity.

The problem is, you are preaching from a position of ignorance.

Thomas wasn’t the only one whose gospels were left out.

The decision on what was canonical was political not religious. It was all about imposing a state religion after the other one, whose god was also born on 25th December, had a bit of a false start.

If you don’t know how your religion was put together how can you expect to be taken seriously?

All you’ve offered is the happy clappy pseudoenlightenment of the easily lead.

We do need to agree that Max is partially correct. However, Christians will be discussing Max' points with Jesus during the "Judgment of the Saints", not the White Throne Judgment.

I believe in the content of the bible.Thats it.If you don’t then ok.If you don’t take me seriously then I am perfectly ok with that as well.

However, some people don't know how much God blesses those who trusts and obey Him. They are legalistic.

People don’t like to be challenged by new ideas/perspectives.It can undermine their long standing belief systems.Why is it that so many people want the evidence factor all the time and yet have absolutely no idea/ interest in what can be unlocked by the faith factor?

I always assume that people have good motives and act on these good motives. However, at least in Spiritual terms I am incorrect.
The Bible says that people don't want to be accountable to a Superior Being. Thus, they deny that there is a personal God.
They are willing to give up the benefits of having a personal relationship with God. Nor do they even realize what most of these benefits are.
They are like a man who insists on walking from New York to Los Angeles because he doesn't believe in any other mode of transportation.
They sing "I DID IT MY WAY!!!".

True that we should speak only what we know as a favt to be true, and here you are lying about god.

You cannot even articulate what holy and righteous means, and that means you are bearing false witness.

You cannot know what you say you know as all that is of god is a mystery.

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DL

Your history of inquisitions and murder within Christian denominations shows Christians, who are still in this fascist religion, would rather murder than convert.

Christianity has no decent moral arguments, and that is why they turn violent.

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DL

What makes you think that adoring a genocidal and infanticidal satanic god is the right thing to do?

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DL

Actually, the bible does show a universalist Christianity.

It has Yahweh saying that it is his will and desire that all be saved.

If Yahweh can't do his will, then why call that loser a god?

If you were an omnipotent supernatural god, would you be so incompetent that you could not do as you willed?

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DL

This is a flat out lie.

Who is responsible for the evil visited on Job?

Do you condemn the hit man, Satan, while letting the don who sent her off the hook?

Are you that much of a moral coward that you cannot call Yahweh, who admits to being a sinner in Job2;3, a sinner?

Cowards can never be moral.

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DL

It was immoral for Jesus to ask you to abdicate your responsibility for your actions. It is immoral for you to accept such an immoral gift.

On Jesus dying for you.

It takes quite an inflated ego to think a god would actually die for you, after condemning you unjustly in the first place.

You have swallowed a lie and don’t care how evil you make Jesus to keep your feel good get out of hell free card.

It is a lie, first and foremost because, like it or not, having another innocent person suffer or die for the wrongs you have done, --- so that you might escape responsibility for having done them, --- is immoral. To abdicate your personal responsibility for your actions or use a scapegoat is immoral.

You also have to ignore what Jesus, as a Jewish Rabbi, would have taught his people.

Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

Deuteronomy 24:16 (ESV) "Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. Each one shall be put to death for his own sin.

Psa 49;7 None of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him:

There is no way that you would teach your children to use a scapegoat to escape their just punishments and here you are doing just that.

Jesus is just a smidge less immoral than his demiurge genocidal father, and here you are trying to put him as low in moral fiber as Yahweh.

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DL