@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:
A foundation-less opinion. Call a Teamster or Auto-worker or Steelworker or Ironworker a "Marxist", "Communist", "Socialist" and pick you teeth up after.
Talk about someone getting their teeth knocked out and wait for the moment someone threatens to knock your teeth out.
Quote:Wanting fair wages and a safe work environment isn't Commie, it's American. The people who do the work deserve a fair shake, not the non participating stock holder who are only lending money on equity to the owners. Equity built on others's labor.
You don't understand what you're talking about because you're more concerned with avoiding associating with Marx's ideas than actually understanding them and seeing how your own views relate to them.
You can call anything 'American,' but it isn't meaningful unless you explain what you're talking about.
Quote:Quote:The human mind is insatiable.
What the **** does that even mean? The sky is blue. The ocean is big. Croutons for your word salad.
It means that people always want more no matter how much they get. Resources are getting used up because people keep thinking they need more money and spending to be happier when maybe what they need is more wisdom in how they spend their time and how to conserve resources.
Quote: People can be well-fed, even overfed; have their basic needs met, and even have plenty of material things beyond what they need; but they still get bored and want to buy new things, go places unnecessarily, get other people to do their chores for them so they don't have to, etc.
Here's the salad. People want this they want that. No ****, Sherlock. But what they really want you don't want to give them is a fair shake. Someone should have drown Ayn Rand when she was a pup.[/quote]
You don't know the first thing about fairness. It's just a word you use to act more entitled and demanding and to rationalize pushing people to serve you economically instead of respecting their liberty.
Quote:I laughed out loud at your "etc" even you had enough of the salad.
I got enough of your spam shortly after you started filling the forum with propaganda images and aggressive rhetoric, but you are still posting.
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The dream of not only being rich and thus secured against running low on money is not enough for many people, who also want to be able to spend money liberally and still never run out. That anti-conservation ethic is what wastes resources and makes industrial-consumerist capitalism unsustainable.
You extremists. Its always extreme for you nitwit. There's no way for everyone to be rich. The carrot of getting rich makes you twits jump though hoops and take terrible screwings just becuase you might get rich.
Most of Americans don't give a **** about getting rich. I'm very happy in the middle class. My kids worked hard in school and doing well at what they set out to do, maybe they'll get rich, maybe not. But they're solidly in the middle class, they did it themselves and they're happy. They did it by getting educated and I did it by dint of hard work. We know that's either route is harder and harder these days and wages for most working Americans is pathetic and getting worse while at the same time wealthiest few are getting wealthier and there's something terribly wrong with that dynamic.
You don't know anything about what you're talking about because you don' t stop to reflect on what it means to be rich and poor. You just keep going through the motions of all the things you assume you're supposed to do and spend money on without questioning any of it.
Quote:Quote:Unions and labor are always focused on closing the gap with richer people without stopping to question whether it's really good to want to be richer if being richer is going to mean you waste more and shift more burdens to others by spending more instead of saving.
Word salad deluxe. Are you on drugs? If wanting to be wealthy is so terrible, why aren't the wealthy cutting loose of some of that loot to relieve their unhappy lives? We and the Unions aren't asking to own the companies or to be rich, they're asking for a living wage and access to healthcare and safe working conditions.
Raising wages to stimulate more inflation does not amount to 'a living wage.' Economic prosperity is not achieved by raising wages, but by managing costs (and prices) so you can grow your savings, however small, and not worry about it being worthless in a couple decades due to inflation.
Quote:Quote:Unions and labor are always focused on closing the gap with richer people without stopping to question whether it's really good to want to be richer if being richer is going to mean you waste more and shift more burdens to others by spending more instead of saving.
MORE word salad. You just want people to starve and die safe from wealth when none of them are wanting wealth, they just want enough.
If they just wanted enough, they wouldn't support an economy that wastes resources.
When you spend your money building an economy that wastes resources, there's never going to be enough to go around; and the more money everyone gets to spend, the more businesses will waste in trying to compete for their business.
