Further Discussion About Covid-19 and the Covid-19 Crisis 2020

Ignore is a wonderful thing, you, Rev and Rab are the only other posts I can see on this page.

Edit, Sorry it put me on the next page, please read previous page.

What a lovely civilised conversation we’re having.

And who cares what the no marks are frothing about anyway?

I've finally been broken of my habit of trying to one up them on the abuse scale. The only one I read is lava and then only until I get to the abusive parts and then I ignore her for a while.

I don't get Set going on and on with them at all. But then I used to do it too.

I'd talk with them if they'd only say something.

'Cause nothing legitimately aggravates or threatens a bully with a long rifle and clips of ammo on a belt than me wearing a face mask, right?

Why don't I have the Constitutional right to protect myself????

You just read the word salad. That and the abuse is all she’s got, a two trick pony.

So many right wingers are incapable of writing basic sentences.

I read you called me abusive in the other post, but I think you're misinterpreting things I say somehow.

Like in this post quote, you say something about aggravating/threatening an armed bully by wearing a face mask.

What exactly are you talking about and how does it related to what I said about hostile and aggressive attitudes being the original provocation that leads to violent threats?

All I am saying is that people react to their feelings. A person who threatens to punch you if you don't shut up obviously feels like they have no other response to whatever hostility/aggressiion they are perceiving in you.

It doesn't mean that the reaction is legitimate; for example a person can perceive something aggressive/hostile in you that you don't really intend to convey; e.g. they might think you look like someone they associate racism with, the same way someone might see a black teenager and misinterpret their looks/clothing as being a symbol of gang violence threats.

I'm not saying anything to legitimate any violence/threats; just pointing out that hostility/aggression builds up fear/stress in people and that fear/stress causes them to be more on-edge and defensive generally.

That's how a social-political climate evolves in which threats of violence become more common and ultimately acts of violence occur as well.

Peace involves more than just repressing violent actions; it is a state of mind/heart.

It sure is when you are narrow minded and willfully ignorant.

It's funny, because you don't know it when people have you on ignore, but you feel it like a slap in the face when they talk about ignoring you and put you down in the course of talking about it.

But, hey, if you can spit on people while telling them you're just ignoring that they are standing in the path of your spit; maybe that makes you feel superior to someone who threatens violence because they are tired of getting spit at.

Back to the topic. Fascist UK crybabies are irrelevant.

https://justthenews.com/video/5-times-cdc-got-it-wrong-coronvirus

https://loudounnow.com/2020/05/06/feds-intercept-loudoun-bound-ppe-shipment/

Feds Intercept Loudoun-bound PPE Shipment

Loudoun County is among the localities that have ordered personal protective equipment only to see it taken upon arrival by the federal government.

County Administrator Tim Hemstreet said Loudoun has been bundling its orders with other localities to buy directly from manufacturers. But, he said, that can also attract attention, and he confirmed at a Board of Supervisors meeting Tuesday that an order headed for Loudoun had been intercepted by the Federal Emergency Management Agency.

Upon arrival, the federal agency outbid the localities for the personal protective equipment and took it, he said.
One Loudoun Tile

“FEMA took those supplies and then distributed them into their regular pipeline, and then we were told to go and meet our PPE needs through our state process,” Hemstreet said.

But Hemstreet said the county is not out any money—as a general rule, for those orders, Loudoun County government pays on delivery.

For most protective equipment, and at the rate it’s being used, the county is adequately supplied for now, he said. But that could change the county’s public safety agencies start using it more quickly, and the government is already running short of gowns.

“For our public safety agencies, Fire-Rescue and the Sheriff’s Office, prior to the start of the pandemic, had on hand sufficient supplies of personal protective equipment,” Hemstreet said. “The only equipment that we’re really kind of worried about and short on are gowns. We do have several weeks of supply for several other pieces of equipment that we have.”

County Chairwoman Phyllis J. Randall (D-At Large) was among the supervisors who expressed frustration.

“The federal government and President Trump continues to tell states and localities they are responsible for getting their own PPE, and they undermine that by outbidding and taking PPE,” Randall said. “… How about they get a daggone federal response that actually works instead of this piecemeal approach that they have that actually is not helping anyone, and outbidding localities? That is infuriating.”

Infection rate rises across the country as states rush to reopen

By Associated Press -May 6, 2020 11:04 AM

Pockets of America far from New York City are seeing ominous trends.

Take the New York metropolitan area's progress against the coronavirus out of the equation and the numbers show the rest of the United States is moving in the wrong direction, with the known infection rate rising even as states move to lift their lockdowns, an Associated Press analysis found Tuesday.

New confirmed infections per day in the U.S. exceed 20,000, and deaths per day are well over 1,000, according to figures from Johns Hopkins University. And public health officials warn that the failure to flatten the curve and drive down the infection rate in places could lead to many more deaths — perhaps tens of thousands — as people are allowed to venture out and businesses reopen.

"Make no mistakes: This virus is still circulating in our community, perhaps even more now than in previous weeks" said Linda Ochs, director of the Health Department in Shawnee County, Kansas.

Elsewhere around the world, Britain's official coronavirus death toll, at more than 29,000, topped that of Italy to become the highest in Europe and second-highest in the world behind the United States. The official number of dead worldwide surpassed a quarter-million, by Johns Hopkins' count, though the true toll is believed to be much higher.

https://americanindependent.com/coronavirus-cases-infection-rate-states-reopen-new-york-covid-19/

Why doesn't your article say how many cases are asymptomatic? How many have been hospitalized?

More fearmongering from liars who refuse to tell the whole truth about anything.

I would assume a high proportion of the asymptomatic cases don't get counted, wouldn't you? There's still not enough tests available. I can't get an antibody test and I am pretty sure I had it when I was in the hospital the week after Thanksgiving on oxygen after passing out repeatedly after coughing spasms.

Trump contradicts nurse he's honoring over PPE availability
Source: CNN

By Nikki Carvajal, CNN

Updated 5:09 PM ET, Wed May 6, 2020

(CNN)President Donald Trump contradicted a nurse he was honoring in the Oval Office on Wednesday, insisting there are no personal protective equipment shortages in the US despite her account that availability could be "sporadic."

A reporter asked the nurses attending the National Nurse Day event if their PPE supplies are where they need to be amid the coronavirus pandemic, and many of them nodded in agreement or answered affirmatively.

"I think it's sporadic," answered Sophia L. Thomas, president of the American Association of Nurse Practitioners. "I mean, I talk to my colleagues around the country. Certainly there are pockets around the country where PPE is not ideal, but this is an unprecedented time."

Thomas said she works at a community health center in New Orleans, and that her youngest Covid-19 patient was 4 days old.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/06/politics/donald-trump-nurse-ppe-coronavirus/index.html

Native American health center asked for COVID-19 supplies. It got body bags instead.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/native-american-health-center-asked-covid-19-supplies-they-got-n1200246?fbclid=IwAR0u1HwJBVmJA55wzMRVnlZFQmGxb5Rt2vIm9Q7TMbEQhV7gmkC_Q5ZPRGI

Not very subtle, was it?

I just read where someone has decided to vote for Trump because of his fantastic carnovirus ddecisions.Another brain dead consertive?

"just decided" - that was one of cold joints little buddies. The spelling is also a tell.

What do you mean by "it's an impediment to knowing G*d"? Why are you spelling God's name "G*d"? Are you concerned about offending someone?

Reference please. I think my point is that looking for hidden messages in magic numbers as the source for G*d's will will interfere with knowing G*d's will. The Lord G*d Jehovah is not a purveyor of parlor tricks and riddles.

I am trying to keep from casual usage of the Lord's name. Look it up in the Commandments, "thou shalt not take the Lord's name in vain.

Jews do it also:

https://www.learnreligions.com/jewish-spelling-of-god-2076772

The custom of substituting the word "God" with G-d in English is based on the traditional practice in Jewish law of giving God's Hebrew name a high degree of respect and reverence. Furthermore, when written or printed, it is forbidden to destroy or erase the name of God (and many of the stand-in names used to refer to God).
Jewish Law

There is no prohibition in Jewish law against writing out or erasing the word "God," which is English. However, many Jews have afforded the word "God" with the same level of respect as the Hebrew equivalents detailed below. Because of this, many Jews substitute "God" with "G-d" so that they can erase or dispose of the writing without showing disrespect to God.

This is relevant especially in the digital age where, although writing God on the internet or computer is not considered a violation of any Jewish law, when one prints a document out and happens to throw it in the garbage, it would be a violation of the law. This is one reason most Torah-observant Jews will write G-D even when they aren't intending to print a document out because there is no way of knowing whether someone might eventually print the word out and deface or throw away the document.

Man Who Claims He Worked for Jared and Ivanka Charged in COVID Scam
https://www.thedailybeast.com/man-who-claims-he-worked-for-jared-kushner-and-ivanka-trump-charged-in-covid-testing-scam?ref=home

A New York man who claims he’s a former White House official is accused of selling stolen COVID-19 testing kits and leaving consumers without results.

Henry Sylvain Gindt II, 34, is charged with mail fraud, wire fraud, and conspiracy to commit mail and wire fraud for offering home-testing kits, which he allegedly obtained illegally from a lab employee, for $135 to $200 each.

In a press release for his company, YouHealth, Inc., Gindt described himself as “a former Trump Administration official who helped launch the Office of American Innovation at The White House with Jared Kushner, Ivanka Trump,” and others.

It’s unclear whether Gindt was working under the Trumps, but records indicate someone named Henry S. Gindt was a federal employee in 2017 and 2018 under the category “Miscellaneous Administration and Program.

More at link.