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Bernie Sanders 2020

 
 
Lash
 
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Reply Fri 1 Nov, 2019 03:40 pm
Beto’s out.✌🏽🌎
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Fri 1 Nov, 2019 04:50 pm
@Lash,
I just found out. Adios.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 2 Nov, 2019 08:58 am
It appears Kanahla will be next. She’s shutting down a lot of offices, asking staff to take pay cuts and throwing everything at Iowa.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 2 Nov, 2019 09:22 am
@Lash,
One more down. Is Biden next?
Sturgis
 
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Reply Sat 2 Nov, 2019 02:18 pm
@Lash,
Quote:
...Kanahla will be next.

Are you referring to Kamala Harris or is there a candidate nobody knows about?

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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 2 Nov, 2019 03:25 pm
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:

One of the talking points against Sanders is the financing. He explains it for each phase. It involves expanding Medicare and paying for it the same way as always, with the change being the non tax paying rich will be expected to chip in. The amount it would possibly increase for the working people would be more than offset with savings. Taking these rich taxes and scaling back the fraudulent military waste, plus ending the wars that help no one except profiteers, are among the avenues under consideration.
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Real Music
 
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Reply Sat 2 Nov, 2019 06:59 pm
@edgarblythe,
Quote:
One more down. Is Biden next?

1. That is highly unlikely.

2. I expect Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, and Joe Biden to all be in the primaries deep into the primary season.

3. Neither of these three are no where near to even consider dropping out.

4. As far as the rest of the field of candidates is concern, I expect quite a few to start dropping out rapidly.
Especially after the primaries votes in Iowa and New Hampshire have been casted and counted.
Lash
 
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Reply Sat 2 Nov, 2019 08:37 pm
Amir Retweeted

Jeremy Corbyn
@jeremycorbyn
·
Nov 1
There are 150 billionaires in the UK while 14 million people live in poverty.

In a fair society there would be no billionaires and no one would live in poverty.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 3 Nov, 2019 02:30 pm
aybefaunt
@Jaybefaunt
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2h
Replying to
@bootsie5

@darngoodshot
and 3 others
Let's be careful on how we engage some Trump supporters. Some of them are realizing the truth about him but are in denial. We need to show them that there is a better person to do what Trump failed to do: Fight for working people. Anger and vitriol solves nothing on here.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 3 Nov, 2019 10:44 pm
https://freebeacon.com/politics/abc-news-has-covered-sanders-for-only-seven-minutes-in-2019/
ABC News Has Covered Sanders for Only Seven Minutes in 2019
MRC: Biden has gotten more attention than other 2020 Dems combined
neptuneblue
 
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Reply Sun 3 Nov, 2019 11:31 pm
@edgarblythe,
Free Beacon? Seriously?

"The Washington Free Beacon is an American conservative political journalism website launched in 2012. It states that it is "dedicated to uncovering the stories that the powers that be hope will never see the light of day" and producing "in-depth investigative reporting on a wide range of issues, including public policy, government affairs, international security, and media."[1]

The website is financially backed by Paul Singer, an American billionaire hedge fund manager and conservative activist.[2]" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Washington_Free_Beacon

According to Fortune, Elliott has been involved "in most of the big post-crash restructurings."[13] In 2009 The Guardian reported that Singer "through a brilliantly complex financial manoeuvre, took control of Delphi Automotive, the sole supplier of most of the auto parts needed by General Motors and Chrysler." Ultimately, the US Treasury paid Elliott Management "$12.9 billion in cash and subsidies from the US Treasury's auto bailout fund."[31] In December 2011 Elliott Associates sued Vietnam's state-owned shipbuilder Vinashin in the UK for defaulting the year before on a US$600 million syndicated loan.[32]

As of February 2014 Elliott controlled $23bn (£19bn) of funds and was the ninth largest investor on Wall Street.[33] ...According to Fortune, Singer focused from early times "on distressed assets," buying up bankrupt firms' debt and acquiring "a reputation for strong-arming his way to profit."[13] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Singer_(businessman)
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Olivier5
 
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Reply Mon 4 Nov, 2019 01:49 am
@edgarblythe,
Translation: be nice to Trumpists, but it's okay to trash democrats...
Lash
 
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Reply Mon 4 Nov, 2019 03:01 am
@Olivier5,
We’re discovering that Centrists hate Bernie more than they hate Trump . Since Trump voters are not motivated by hate, but ignorance, we’ve started engaging them about policy—with good results.

Many are switching to Bernie—because they’re desperate for those policies.

They are mostly afraid of ‘Socialism.’
livinglava
 
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Reply Mon 4 Nov, 2019 06:23 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

We’re discovering that Centrists hate Bernie more than they hate Trump . Since Trump voters are not motivated by hate, but ignorance, we’ve started engaging them about policy—with good results.

Many are switching to Bernie—because they’re desperate for those policies.

They are mostly afraid of ‘Socialism.’

I wonder if they understand that the problem of socialism comes not because the government wants to achieve things but because they end up putting so much money into doing so that it juices up the economy to the point of being unreformable.

E.g. if you jack up spending on health care, you will get health care, but in the process you will also get more of all the economic activities that cause climate change and other environmental problems/instability.

When the money starts flowing, people turn off their consciences and go with the flow of the rat race.

The rat race is capitalist, but it is capitalism-on-crack/stimulus, which is what socialism is. Socialism is actually just 'social capitalism,' where the free market is deemed insufficient to generate the levels of growth, revenues, jobs, etc. that unions want; so they jack up the economy with government stimulus and then try to regulate it so more of the proceeds go where they want them to go.

The problem is that there are economic privileges that are not good for the environment, climate, and future generations; and so when you stimulate the economy to provide those privileges to more people; you accelerate the environmental/climate unsustainability.

You have to reform economic practices and lifestyles to be more sustainable, but that only happens when people are motivated to put effort into making due with less because the economy is weaker. When the economy is strong because it's been stimulated by government spending/stimulus, people have more impetus to maintain the status quo that has made them money in the past than to reform to greater levels of conservatism that waste less.

Voluntary conservation of resources is a free market adaptation to recession that is taken as a threat by bull capitalists, and that is the reason such capitalists support socialist government intervention to stimulate growth, i.e. because they want to keep making money and doing so means they need to keep people spending/borrowing/investing/etc.; all economic activities that engender resource use/waste instead of more conservative budget management/planning that reduces waste in order to stretch money further.
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Olivier5
 
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Reply Mon 4 Nov, 2019 06:27 am
@Lash,
Quote:
We’re discovering that Centrists hate Bernie more than they hate Trump

We're discovering, rather, that fake bernites such as Ed and you hate centrists and liberals, but that they love Trump... :-) Fake bernites are soft on Trump because they don't want to hurt his electoral prospects, that's all.

Note that Bernie himself is not soft on Trump. Only fake bernites are...
hightor
 
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Reply Mon 4 Nov, 2019 07:10 am
@Olivier5,
Since Sanders first declared himself a candidate in the '16 presidential contest, I've read a lot of things about him and discussed his candidacy with quite a few people. I've never encountered anyone who "hated" the guy. Even on A2K.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 4 Nov, 2019 07:22 am
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIgFHMEXsAE6XEY?format=jpg&name=medium
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Lash
 
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Reply Mon 4 Nov, 2019 08:26 am
@Olivier5,
Meanwhile, I’m engaging a lot of people and explaining Bernie’s policies, and attending a Town Hall Sunday to talk to Nina Turner and Dr. Virginia Dooley. I also helped spark this big funding push. If I’m a fake Bernie, he’s making off like a bandit. I wonder what the real ones are doing! Hahaha!

But, keep making up your stuff. It’s amusing.⚡️

Olivier5
 
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Reply Mon 4 Nov, 2019 08:45 am
@Lash,
For one thing, the real bernites are paying attention to what he actually says...
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 4 Nov, 2019 09:46 am
@Lash,
People who are negative and sound like stuck records no longer get any response from me on a2k. I just want to spread truth and the good news concerning progressives. If that goads them on, tough lemons.
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