Bernie Sanders 2020

at this point i wouldn't count on him being the Repub nominee... he's got a lot of political surviving to do to get to the election...

You're as prone to tantrums as your orange candidate.

well then it's a good thing he doesn't have aspirations to be POTUS...

I get tired of the b s whether its the Bernie will change the world or the Trump b s that he is the smartest president in the history of the world. I was pointing that their rants are hurting the democratic chances to rid ourselves of an idiot. Too many u s citizens have unrealistic ideas of how government works. Before any changes can be made we have to elect a liberal congress in the house and senate. And we need to elect people who are willing to do the job of governing for all the citizens and ignore the pie in the sky politicians. Universal health care is possible but not instantly. Reducing the cost of education is possible but not instantly. Just a presidential declaring that these things are going to happen by presidential proclamation is just more b s. We need a politician who knows how Washington works and one who can control the direction of the government and start passing laws rather than posing as a god.

Take it easy... Or do you threaten to vote for Trump everytime some poster pissed you off?

It should be about policy; otherwise, what's the point of voting?

Ollie, I think everyone on this site but you know that I would vote for putin before Trump. But Bernie the god before putin. What posses me off is the people pushing Bernie even though if he were elected we would end up with the same dysfunctional government we have now. When we elected Trump people were voting for change. I asked of you this question before and you never answered it. How did voting for Trump in order to change government work out for us?

Okay, so anybody who wants to change anything is exactly like Trump and will end up like him. That's so deep!

If you want to vote for someone who will not change government, you should vote for someone who is impotent and/or conservative, like Biden or Trump.

Trump has dramatically changed government, primarily by giving cover to the worst in the Republican party. Sanders would likewise change government by taking all the heat for liberal congressmen who want to push their agendas. Just because someone is incompetent doesn't mean he won't have an effect. Even a bad general can lead the troops in the right direction.

Rabel is saying in essence that change is bad, because Trump is bad and Trump is changing things... It's a logically absurd position but I am not surprised at such change-adverse philosophy: the status quo is exactly what the so-called 'moderates' want.

In fact, if one maps US politics to European categories, Sanders is on the left, Warren is left of center, 'moderate' democrats are right of center (aka they are conservative protectors of the status quo), while the republicans are on the extreme right.

Near as I can figure, Rabel thinks I voted for Trump. I did not. Clinton herself created more votes for Trump beyond his original base, by giving him free promotion. Then she sat on her ass when she ought to have been working it off.

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I realize that English may not be your first language but you need to quit misinterpreting what I post. Every one on the face of the earth knew Trump and his whole family are and have been crooks all their lives and you all thought making him president would cause him to change. Murdoch and Co sold the citizens of the u s a bill of goods that have screwed us all. In the area even though the president has broken many laws they still talk about Clinton who is not president or even in politics now rather than our crooked president. I do not understand how so many people can be duped by the media. I guess that it is true that if you repeat a lie often enough it becomes truth. Ok, you vote for trump, ill vote for warren and hope enough people finally wake up to the fact that they have been used by people like you and lash to elect a crook to the highest office in the us.

I realize that English may be your first language but you need to learn to think logically nonetheless.

I saw on Twitter that this may be Bernie's first ad in Iowa.

You do realize not only did she lose the election in 2016, but she's not running in 2020.

So...

Why is this even a thing?

Two reasons. 1. Other posters constantly bring it up to cast blame my way. 2. She is asserting herself suddenly and being close with Warren. Some are speculating she may be angling to run for VP.

I think you are being disingenuous here. "Some" might be talking about Clinton conspiracies but you are the only one bringing them up on A2K and always as an anti-Sanders plot. Clinton won the popular vote for President, she is not going to accept a VP role from anyone, nor is she "asserting herself suddenly" against Sanders/for Warren. The only reason she is in the press is her pushing back against Trump. Posting these fringe website conspiracies is an implicit endorsement even with the "I don't believe this but..." qualifier in front. I think you can champion Sanders without seeing plots in every shadow.

Opinion duly noted.