Thank you. Walter. I must admit I am mystified. I find no empirical evidence in the link. What does it say about comparisons between countries? My post was straightforward. It gave easily understandable rankings and data- You know,like the US unemployment rate( 5.1%) as compared to the German unemployment rate( over 10%)
Attempting to beat the rush for the poll-crazed:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/06/23/poll.america.ap/index.html
Bush, war, or envy?
Perhaps you can find the answer(s) when looking at the complete study - I've posted
link to it yesterday.
"Steve,
You can find a home over here any time you wish!"
very kind George. But we are a big family, how many rooms do you have?
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Perhaps you can find the answer(s) when looking at the complete study - I've posted
link to it yesterday.
It was understood that Bush and the war were major factors. I doubt you'll ever find an honest poll addressing envy of American lifestyle and living standards or the post-war realities discussed earlier.
And again ... why should Americans really care about such such polls? Do Europeans care how we view them? (There would be pretty similar numbers in that poll, I'm guessing.)
WhoodaThunk wrote:And again ... why should Americans really care about such such polls?
You may ask the poll institute. It's address:
Pew Global Attitudes Project, PewResearchCenter
1615 L Street, NW Suite 700 Washington, DC 20036
WhoodaThunk wrote:And again ... why should Americans really care about such such polls? Do Europeans care how we view them? (There would be pretty similar numbers in that poll, I'm guessing.)
not sure why people care (I have some ideas, but I don't know), but I do know that part of the poll also asked how people thought their country was perceived by others.
Americans were pretty aware that they're not much liked these days. The drop-off from the days post 9-11 is a bit drastic.
Tons of coverage if anyone wants to google it.
74% of all statistics figures quoted in polls are made up anyway.
McT, I thought it was closer to 90 percent. Damn, wrong info again!
McTag wrote:74% of all statistics figures quoted in polls are made up anyway.
And 67% of those polled indicate they aren't being truthful in their responses anyway.
Yuppeee! I finally had the right answer; 67% (according to tico) divided by 74% (according to McT) equals 90.5 percent! One right answer once-a-year is plenty good for me!
... what is that they say about a blind squirrel?
I don't have a clue, but don't bother telling us.
... plus European polls are metric so it just looks like they hate us more.
Don't go there, Whooda, we already lost a Mars orbiter because half the software was metric and the other half imperial:
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"On November 10, the Mars Climate Orbiter Mission Failure Investigation Board released the initial results of its investigation into the causes of the September 23 loss of the MCO spacecraft. The Board confirmed that the root cause of the loss was the failure to convert English units of rocket thrust (pounds) into metric units (Newtons) in a segment of navigation-related software. "
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http://apollo-society.org/spaceupdate_19991119.html#MCO
I must admit it, I love Europe.
I especially love England, Scotland, Wales, Ireland, The Netherlands, Italy, Germany, and (on the periphery) Scandinavia.
I seriously doubt I might ever love France, simply because it is inhabited by the French.
I question whether or not I might love France Lite - Belgium, but I suspect that my lack of ardour for states like Spain and Portugal is directly connected to the fact that I have yet to visit these nations.
There is so much to admire about these nations and their people.
However...If they have no use for us, I have no use for them.
Clearly it is not 100% of all Europeans who despise the US.
Whether it be 50%, 30%, 20% or 10% of Europeans who love America, these are the Europeans with whom my heart connects.
What amazes me is that anyone might feel content in wallowing in the faults of one's nation (homeland) and at the same time invigorated by the jeering criticism of other nations.
Spare me the BS notion of purity of spirit and consideration. Liberals are no more pure in their idealism than Conservatives. Given that we are all imperfect specimens of God's creation, how does it make sense that almost 50% of our species (albeit they would argue the number exceeds 50%) prefers to think the worst of us?
There is only one answer: By thinking the worst of us as a group, individuals can, somehow, lay claim to exceptional grace.
Yeah, right!
WhoodaThunk wrote:... plus European polls are metric so it just looks like they hate us more.
So the Pew Research Center isn't an US company as indicated?
That's not bad at all, then: 'Ave Europa, nostra vera patria'.
I don't hail the United States, i'll be damned if i'll hail Europe, which ain't no stinkin' homeland to me . . . so there, Walter, put that in yer pipe and smoke it . . .