JTT wrote:
... The USA has never been a place to countenance the truth. When y'all look in the mirror all you can see are the false stories you were taught in school and the even falser images you see in the movies and on TV. This is how this perception has been formed.
You just keep repeating the same ole story line, the same ole drivel. And yet, you'd have us believe that you're an honest, thoughful man. Why is there no discussion from you about the US companies, individuals, government employees who SEEM to be up to their necks in this scandal?
Why are the Brits here able to discuss honestly their own in this in a forward and honest fashion, but you, ...?
I generally pay little attention to your usually inflammatory and nonsensical comments, but, what the hell ... it's a slow day, and I'm on vacation.
I think your assertions about the ability (or lack of it) for the truth to thrive in the United States are an example of extreme exaggeration. Media bias and market exploitation are about the same throughout the Western World. The quality of perception and insight among people doesn't vary that much either. These nonsensical assertions make you look a bit odd, ...angry & resentful, without evident reason. This doesn't speak well for the quality of your judgements.
Do really believe that the "Brits" on these forums have uniquely been able to, "discuss their own in this in a forward and honest fashion", while others (presumably myself primarily) have not? I don't believe that is a supportable conclusion based on a review of this thread and what was actually written here.
I have made no assertions whatever about the involvement (or lack of it) of U.S. or international oil companies in oil for food transactions. I consider it self-evident that at some point in all these transactions the oil in trade made it eventually into the hands of one or another of the international petroleum distribution and refining firms. I'm not sure what is your point here, but you will have to do more with it to be taken seriously.
I note that in the Scott Ritter piece above he also acknowledges the same point with regard to the oil companies - namely that they were necessarily secondary figures in this corrupt practice, but not the originators of it. Ritter also goes on to blame it all on the United States and our ten year policy of "economic strangulation" of Iraq which he says killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis. The key point here is that the international sanctions on Iraq during that decade were indeed actively supported by the United States and approved by the UN Security Council as a direct consequence of the Iraqi regime's invasions of both its neighbors during the previous 15 years, and sustained refusal to abide by the agreement that ended the Kuwati conflict. The actions of the Saddam regime were the real cause -- unless you (and Mr Ritter, a paid hack) are prepared to argue that economic sanctions are an impermissible form of political action.