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How (and when) will the Government Shutdown end?

 
 
coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jan, 2019 11:31 am
@ehBeth,
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I'm still curious about the demographics.

Try checking on Canada's. Let us know how it is going. Thanks.
revelette1
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jan, 2019 11:40 am
@maxdancona,
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My daughter asked me this morning if she still had to go to school if there is a National Emergency.


Smile
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jan, 2019 11:40 am
@coldjoint,
This is a thread about who is going to win the shutdown. Please take this irrelevant bickering over who is right or who fascist to other threads.

Any Predictions on what will happen tonight? I am not sure of Trump is going to follow through with his threat to declare a National Emergency... but it seems possible. It will be a political disaster if he does.

coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jan, 2019 11:45 am
@maxdancona,
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Please take this irrelevant bickering over who is right or who fascist to other threads.

Tell Farmerman, he bought it up, not me.
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It will be a political disaster if he does.

A disaster for the Democrats. That is a good thing.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jan, 2019 11:58 am
@coldjoint,
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A disaster for the Democrats. That is a good thing.


If Farmerman starts whining about how unfair the media is... I will know you were right.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jan, 2019 12:05 pm
@maxdancona,
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If Farmerman starts whining about how unfair the media is

Do not hold your breath, he laps up the **** the MSM puts out there faster than most.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jan, 2019 12:36 pm
@maxdancona,
why dont you try stopping me from voicing my opinion schmendrick. Somebody die and put you incharge of the proceedings?.

The mere fact that On another thred I began tallying the steps on the way to fascistii status and this was on of the later ones, overriding the parliament.

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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jan, 2019 12:56 pm
@coldjoint,
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Obama politicized supposedly independent agencies, that is fascism.
Obama's cabinet secretaries were, primarily, hiring competent folks who understood the missions of their agencies. They werent hiring yes folks by Cabinet Secretaries whose entire missions were to dispose of their entire department.

PS, I get my news from NYT, Fox, Wall Street Journal and CNBC and CBC and BBC. Fox and WSJ are MSM just like anyone else's . I love to occasionally liten to the news of the 700 club (talk about really fucked up goggles)
coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jan, 2019 01:24 pm
@farmerman,
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Obama's cabinet secretaries were, primarily, hiring competent folks who understood the missions of their agencies.

Bullshit, they were hiring people from the Muslim Brotherhood, Acorn, and every other subversive org. around at the time. Rewrite history somewhere else.
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jan, 2019 01:53 pm
@coldjoint,
Did department secretaries all have to be under one religion? (Christianty or sex (old white men) ??
As I recall, all dept Secretaries swear (or affirm) the following oath of office:
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“I, AB, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.”

Trump seems to have changed all that to; "I will support , defend an back everything the boss says or demands of me, including theBIG LIE, present alternative "facts" and engage in the commission of felonious events"
coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jan, 2019 02:01 pm
@farmerman,
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Trump seems to have changed

Isn't that an assumption you can never prove? If it seems that way to you it is because that is what you have been told. I can show you what I said. I also noticed the race card, c'mon. Enough said.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jan, 2019 02:05 pm
I think I figured out the likely scenario. It provides Trump a way out of the corner into which he has painted himself, and it let's him play victim... which is the best way to keep face with his base.

1. Trump declares a National Emergency tonight... declares victory and ends the shutdown (with no money for the wall in the resulting CR).

2. "Chuck and Nancy" give a speech condemning Trump's move, but the legislation to reopen the government passes with no money for the wall.

3. The National Emergency is blocked in court.

4. Trump fumes at liberal judges and the media.

This way everyone wins. The country gets its government back. And Trump gets to blame it all on two of his favorite villains (liberal judges and the media). And... there will be no money for the wall.

I think Trump is going to go the National Emergency route. I don't see any other way for him to worm his way out of the predicament he has gotten himself into without appearing to have backed down.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jan, 2019 05:00 pm
@coldjoint,
Mr Pinky Moroni, pleeeaze dont be more of an idiot by practicing quote mining. Heres what I said

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Trump seems to have changed all that to; "I will support , defend an back everything the boss says or demands of me, including theBIG LIE, present alternative "facts" and engage in the commission of felonious events"


Race Card??? Im sorry, but you seem to be so better practiced at that bad habit. Please tell me where I did that?
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jan, 2019 05:09 pm
@farmerman,
PS, you have ignored the fact that Trump couldnt get this **** done qll the while he was the figurehead of the GOP and he had majority party status in Congress and USSC. My my, could it be that hes just "created" the whole National Emergency just to get his fat ass out of a corner?

coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jan, 2019 05:38 pm
@farmerman,
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Race Card??? Im sorry, but you seem to be so better practiced at that bad habit. Please tell me where I did that?

Right here.
Did department secretaries all have to be under one religion? (Christianty or sex (old white men) ??
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jan, 2019 06:00 pm
@farmerman,
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his fat ass out of a corner?

His fat ass would run you and most people into the ground. Anything else, racist?
livinglava
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jan, 2019 06:32 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
WOW, what a pile of dung. Think about this, Trump OWNED the presidency, and ALL the Congress for two years, now that hes faced with a biprty legislature, he wants to declare a "National Emergency", and this AM hes announced that hes doing this because he really believes it and , by doing o, he can bypass the Congress. Another step on the road to fascism, a leader who denies the legislative body its coequal status. Next steps involve "dissolving the Parliament"

I don't know what to do with the socialists/socialism. They don't seek to use government for any reason besides economic control. They pretend to be on the up and up, though, and like a liar who consistently denies lying, it's easy to start questioning your own perception that they're lying. Then, the moment you trust them enough to give them an inch, they take a mile.

Just look at Ocasio-Cortez's plan for a green new deal. All the ideas for eliminating fossil fuels and improving environmental respect and sustainability seem great, but then you realize that what socialists do is take everything that would be good and put pricetags on it so that implementing it injects enough money into the economy to invigorate the status quo economy of everyone driving around in cars on big roads and highways to airports and flying around wasting resources and 'living the dream' which is the antithesis of sustainability and environmental impact reduction.

They do the same thing with any and every form of social reform they promise. They create a menu of ideas the public will support, then they sell each menu item to them one-by-one, dumping money into the economy, which the businesses and investors all take, rev up the economy and distribute the money through all the old channels that created inequality and inflation in the past.

It's so disheartening when you want to achieve change but the socialists keep telling you you have to pay an arm for a leg for it, which funds the exact same economy that has always suppressed change to begin with, and once they give them the money, the people choose the money over the change and then we're always back to square one again.
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jan, 2019 06:38 pm
@coldjoint,
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, racist?
Shall I call you an anti-semite?? because you really are You cant find on thing racist that Ive said(Unless you think that Im not Europocentric enough?)
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jan, 2019 06:59 pm
@livinglava,
You trying to pinpoint me as a socialist (add that to pinkeys calling me a racist)
Thats usually what Fascists do, they sloganeer really well, its the basis of all theyve got in their clip or quiver.

Ive got a minute free, tell me everything you know about fossil fuels.

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coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jan, 2019 07:00 pm
@farmerman,
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Shall I call you an anti-semite?? because you really are

When you put a color in your post, you are a racist. That has been my experience here. Why are you different?
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