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For all Trump supporters

 
 
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 3 Nov, 2018 12:59 pm
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:
Would you accept any such evidence were it provided? I've already done so.
Trump's derogatory reference to third-world hellholes is not evidence of racism.
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Brandon9000
 
  0  
Reply Sat 3 Nov, 2018 06:04 pm
@neptuneblue,
neptuneblue wrote:

Brandon9000 wrote:
"Why do we get so many immigrants from broken, impoverished countries? Why can't we get some from countries in reasonable shape?"


Nobody flees countries that are in solid financial shape and not war torn. Civil wars, famine, religious and secular persecution tends to drive people out. The European nations are dealing with immigration issues too. Or haven't you noticed people washing up on the shore of Greece?

I think you're right.
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Brandon9000
 
  -1  
Reply Sat 3 Nov, 2018 06:08 pm
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:
That of course is not what he said. Neptuneblue has answered that question well enough. As I have already said, you will hear no criticism of that piece of human gristle which now disgraces the Executive Mansion. Here's my last response to you, because your attitude frankly sickens me.

Quote:
Former White House aide Omarosa Manigault has confirmed that President Donald Trump called certain African nations “s***hole countries" during an immigration meeting earlier this year.

Ms Manigault – a former star of Mr Trump’s reality show “The Apprentice” and a one-time assistant to the president – confirmed the remarks in a tweet during Mr Trump’s press conference with Nigerian President Muhammadu Buhari.


Source at The Independent

I didn't deny that he said that. I merely summarized it without the four letter word. I asked you how it was a racist comment and you appear to be incapable of answering. It surprises me very little that liberals are usually incapable of arguing politics without ad hominem attacks on their opponents.
Brandon9000
 
  -1  
Reply Sat 3 Nov, 2018 06:10 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

Quote:
Going off script and lying are different accusations.
His "going off script" , when it refutes what his script just had him say, in my estimation can be handled quite easily
"In which statement was he lying"?

This is getting strangely abstract. Can you give an example?
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Brandon9000
 
  -1  
Reply Sat 3 Nov, 2018 06:13 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
I think he’s actually stated that he’s a nationalist, because ‘there’s nothing wrong with loving your nation.’

White nationalists are a subset of nationalists. Some nationalists are white nationalists. Some are not. Some merely love their countries. It's ridiculous to assert that if you're proud of your country, that somehow makes you a racist.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 4 Nov, 2018 09:03 am
Trump Justifies Gunning Down Asylum Seekers

Nuff said.
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Reply Sun 4 Nov, 2018 12:40 pm
@edgarblythe,
Trump's approval/disapproval rating today: Approve 44.3. Disapprove 52.6
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livinglava
 
  -1  
Reply Sun 4 Nov, 2018 01:56 pm
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:

Trump Justifies Gunning Down Asylum Seekers

Nuff said.

Ok, now rephrase that to question why human shields would be sent as 'asylum seekers' to protect mercenaries and traffickers.

How about reserving the asylum process for people actually seeking asylum instead of using it as yet another political-economic tool for exploiting individuals for collective gains?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 4 Nov, 2018 02:17 pm
@livinglava,
Quote:
How about reserving the asylum process for people actually seeking asylum ...
Aren't they already doing that? There's always been a process for immigration to this country. Some times, it takes over two years before they are allowed into this country. https://thehill.com/latino/413555-us-citizenship-applications-taking-up-to-two-years-to-process-report
Setanta
 
  2  
Reply Sun 4 Nov, 2018 02:28 pm
@Brandon9000,
Appear to be incapable, what arrogant bullsh*t. When he calls nations with black populations sh*thole countries and then says we need immigrants from countries like Norway (an overwhelmingly white country), just what the f*ck do you think he's saying? How mindless of you. He was saying that nations with black populations are sh*tholes because he's racist. When he said he could commit murder and his supporters would still support him, he must have had people like you in mind.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 4 Nov, 2018 02:50 pm
@Setanta,
Trump has revealed his racist views long before he became president. He didn't rent any of his apartments to blacks. He wanted five innocent black kids executed even after being found innocent based on DNA testing. He wanted Jews counting his money, not blacks. When VIP's visited his casinos, he wanted only white workers exposed to the visitors. Trump's "Mexicans are criminals and rapists," and "ban all Muslims from entering our country," are only small symptoms of his bigotry compared to his lifelong bigoted life. His history is well known in this country, but he still won the election based on the electoral college, and not by popular vote. It's a shame not only for the US but for the world. His approval rating now sits at 36%. https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/11/politics/trump-approval-rating-dropped/index.html It's not just CNN's poll. All polling shows Trump's approval rating dropping.
livinglava
 
  0  
Reply Sun 4 Nov, 2018 03:52 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Quote:
How about reserving the asylum process for people actually seeking asylum ...
Aren't they already doing that? There's always been a process for immigration to this country. Some times, it takes over two years before they are allowed into this country. https://thehill.com/latino/413555-us-citizenship-applications-taking-up-to-two-years-to-process-report

Edgarblythe said, "Trump Justifies Gunning Down Asylum Seekers." Idk where that quote was found, but the implication is that either 1) Trump just hates asylum seekers and wants to kill them or 2) that asylum is being abused by the forces that seek to manipulate US border controls so that they can facilitate more trafficking.

Trafficking is lucrative and wealthy drug bosses can afford to recruit lots of migrants to assist their cause, if only to flood the border with migrants to distract the police from their mules and shipments.

First it was 'family separation' that they were using to demonize Trump so as to get back the Obama catch-and-release policy that allowed parents with children to be easily used as drug mules without being detained long enough to extract their 'shipment.'

Now this thing about Trump wanting to shoot asylum seekers is just another attempt to pretend like the borders aren't being abused for trafficking and all the political crocodile-tears about asylum, etc. isn't just more media manipulation to demonize a regime that interferes with drug and human trafficking into lucrative US markets.
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livinglava
 
  0  
Reply Sun 4 Nov, 2018 03:54 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Quote:
How about reserving the asylum process for people actually seeking asylum ...
Aren't they already doing that? There's always been a process for immigration to this country. Some times, it takes over two years before they are allowed into this country. https://thehill.com/latino/413555-us-citizenship-applications-taking-up-to-two-years-to-process-report

Edgarblythe said, "Trump Justifies Gunning Down Asylum Seekers." Idk where that quote was found, but the implication is that either 1) Trump just hates asylum seekers and wants to kill them or 2) that asylum is being abused by the forces that seek to manipulate US border controls so that they can facilitate more trafficking.

Trafficking is lucrative and wealthy drug bosses can afford to recruit lots of migrants to assist their cause, if only to flood the border with migrants to distract the police from their mules and shipments.

First it was 'family separation' that they were using to demonize Trump so as to get back the Obama catch-and-release policy that allowed parents with children to be easily used as drug mules without being detained long enough to extract their 'shipment.'

Now this thing about Trump wanting to shoot asylum seekers is just another attempt to pretend like the borders aren't being abused for trafficking and all the political crocodile-tears about asylum, etc. isn't just more media manipulation to demonize a regime that interferes with drug and human trafficking into lucrative US markets.

That's why I use the term, 'human shields,' i.e. because trafficking bosses drive a lot of migration purely for the sake of having decoys for their mules and shipments. Why no one criticizes them more than Trump idk, unless it is because people are afraid to criticize them out of fear and dependency.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Sun 4 Nov, 2018 04:24 pm
@livinglava,
It takes two to tangle.
livinglava
 
  -1  
Reply Sun 4 Nov, 2018 04:27 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

It takes two to tangle.

What is that supposed to mean? Why even reply if that's all you're going to post?
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 4 Nov, 2018 04:28 pm
While Donald Trump deploys troops to the Mexico border and orders them to shoot immigrants who throw rocks, many people in this migrant caravan in fact already fled US government-fueled violence in Central America.
https://therealnews.com/stories/trump-threatens-to-shoot-migrants-fleeing-us-fueled-violence-and-instability?fbclid=IwAR3V80TfNFNMSrVoQceVOaVry4MKqBh_jjDTFQ29kO9jx4CUiLwmvVEdlxE
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Sun 4 Nov, 2018 04:29 pm
@livinglava,
It's quite self-explanatory to the subject under discussion.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 4 Nov, 2018 04:31 pm
@edgarblythe,
There are many causes for people wishing to come to the US. Escaping violence is one major one, but there are others such as freedom, security, and opportunity.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 4 Nov, 2018 04:39 pm
@cicerone imposter,
That's true. Assholes like Trump assume they will be rock throwers when they are a thousand miles away and have shown no inclination to violence. But it's all part of a ploy to get his base to vote.
livinglava
 
  0  
Reply Sun 4 Nov, 2018 04:54 pm
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:

That's true. Assholes like Trump assume they will be rock throwers when they are a thousand miles away and have shown no inclination to violence. But it's all part of a ploy to get his base to vote.

This is such a typical Dem rhetorical tactic. Instead of discussing rock throwing as form of violence in confrontations with police/military, you turn it into an accusation to be debated.

If people throw rocks at armed police, knowing that the police are armed to defend themselves and prevent the insurgents from gaining the upper hand, they know they are just provoking a violent police response for the sake of claiming victimization and making the regime look bad. That is media manipulation at the expense of human beings who work as police and don't need to be putting up with rocks being thrown at them because all they have to protect themselves with are guns.
 

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