Tartarin: I read your last post, twice in fact, and sincerely appreciate what you are saying.
But while you are occupying yourself deriding those on the right for their flippant venom (of which, I have contributed my share), please note.
The compassion, conviction, motives and intelligence of the conservatives among us is constantly called into question on this thread and others, and on this site and others.
It gets a bit tiring for us as well.
So let's cut the venom, Max, take off the battle gear, quit making personal attacks. It comes from both sides, of course, but is much sharper, persistent and personal from the Right. (I say this having travelled through various threads even back before I started posting to check out the perceived trend...)
blatham - Our local conservative talk radio guy (a Canadian transplant, by the way) hung up on me while I was outlining the successes of a British program that had addicts going to doctors for their heroin. His mind was made up before the conversation started. He didn't want to know that there was information he lacked, which might have altered his conclusions had he taken it into account.
I see some of that here in A2K.
Quote:It comes from both sides, of course, but is much sharper, persistent and personal from the Right.
No offense, but you would have to be reading these discussions with an anti-right bias to even write such a thing with a straight face. (I am assuming your face was straight at the time. :wink: )
I've always found it shocking how hateful the party of peace, love and understanding is, and how often those on the left respond with vitriol to those on the right.
But it would be far more illustrative for you to review a sampling of these discussions and check your view against reality, than to read my opinion on the subject, which you will understandably discount as biased in the other direction.
There's your problem, Tartarin - you just don't live in "reality".
I'm crazy about Snood, a neighbor, who actually makes sense -- who knows the difference between reality and "reality."
Yeah, snood kinda grows on you...
like toe fungus.
But seriously, he proves both mine and tw's point:
What you see as acceptable and within reason can be construed quite differently by others.
trespassers will wrote:Take snood, for example, Tartarin. He seems to enjoy popping up in these discussions but rarely comments on the topic itself, preferring to lie in wait for an opportunity to make a puckish comment about someone he dislikes or with whom he disagrees (one and the same for him, it seems). He seems especially fond of inserting himself into other people's discussions, perhaps in a misguided effort to stir up animosity where none exists.
When someone gets tired of his annoying antics and responds, he and others then point fingers, saying "Look at how mean the righties are!" all the while pretending snood was just standing their picking daisies when he got nuked.
But don't sweat it. I expect you to be partisan, and I expect snood to act the fool. Neither troubles me much.
"Nuked"? You flatter yourself.
AMERICANS, YOU MUST PROTEST.
Every citizen of Western countries expects no less from you. Your image is at stake: are you responsible citizens, or mall shopping sheep? That is now the question.
From the UK Guardian:
Peace protests stepped up across the world
Staff and agencies
Tuesday March 18, 2003
The countdown to military action in Iraq has sparked peace protests in Britain and abroad, with more lasting and widespread action anticipated in the event of war.
In London, hundreds of members of the Stop the War Coalition (STWC) began converging on Westminster to lobby their MPs.
The move followed a press conference at the House of Commons, where STWC chairman Andrew Murray made a last-minute appeal to Labour MPs to vote against the government's support for military action in Iraq.
He said: "This is the last chance to make it clear that Britain wants no part in a war that will plunge the world into terrible suffering."
Former Labour MP Tony Benn said that by ignoring parliament, Prime Minister Tony Blair had "released" people to follow their conscience and take action which could include walking out of work when bombing started.
The coalition said today that growing numbers of workers were set to take action against the war. Lunch time protests would be held across the country when military action started, the coalition predicted.
Meanwhile, anti-war groups were taking to the streets in Australia and the Far East. In Sydney, daredevil activists painted a three-metre high "no war" slogan across the top of part of the city's Opera House.
Protesters also made their voice heard in Australia's parliament, where one man in the public gallery screamed "murderer, scumbag" as the prime minister, John Howard, announced his decision to commit 2,000 troops to an Iraq invasion force. The protester was dragged from the chamber by security guards.
In Tokyo, just hours after Japan's prime minister, Junichiro Koizumi, gave full backing to the US push for war, peace activists began a hunger strike outside the US embassy.
In Pakistan, more than 100 school and college students marched through the city of Rawalpindi, near Islamabad, demanding a holy war against the US.
They waved placards and banners reading "No war for oil", "Bush is the real sign of terrorism" and "Hate America, love Islam".
In the Philippines, at least two people were injured as riot police used truncheons and water cannon to disperse anti-war protesters in front of the US embassy.
Police in Indonesia, the world's most populous Muslim country, said they were stepping up security at foreign embassies. The move comes in preparation for massive street protests expected in the wake of US
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wolf wrote:AMERICANS, YOU MUST PROTEST.
Every citizen of Western countries expects no less from you. Your image is at stake: are you responsible citizens, or mall shopping sheep? That is now the question.
Very well, I'd like to protest all of the people who are protesting against our President. I'm going to march up and down at the mall, while shopping for some new sheep.
"It is so important for the world to realise that most
Americans are, like the rest of the world's people,
peace-loving, fair-minded and good-hearted people."
--Al Harris, Cairns, Australia,
Beyond Protesting
Yes, I've gone beyond protesting against these "peace activists" and have recently volunteered my services and expertise, in doing what I can to aid the country (on a local level) in support of this war.
I have become pro-active. In my whole life, during the Viet Nam era, Nixon, Reagan, and Clinton, I have never been one to foster a patriotic notion. Now, I have become truly inspired, to come to the aid of my country in this troubled time.
We are at War!
And for the first time in many of years, the war is going to be fought here at home. Don't let it be too late, to realize that words won't protect you. Words won't feed you or keep you safe and warm. Honest words won't protect you from those that would do you harm. Learn to protect yourselves. Learn to come together as friends, neighbors, communities. Find strength in those that you can trust.
You can cry for Iraqi children being killed and maimed, but remember to save some of your tears for American children that will be dying horrible deaths over here. This is what terrorism, is all about.
We are at war!
Welcome to the real world, one filled with hate, depravity, lies, and immorality. God is dead, long live anarchy (or at least till the human race can evolve to an enlighten species, if it can.) If not, then "Mankind is dead, long live the next dominant species on this planet." Hopefully, they can do a much better job, than we've been doing.
Extremely well spoken, ferrous.
I think ferrous and maxdadeo should join the military and go to war.
Liberal Mass Confusion?
Poor littlek... about as bright as an old penny.
ferrous
That's enough ... Stop being personal & unpleasant!
