Why I left the Democratic Party

@Olivier5,

I didn't say I was angry, I said I was bereft.

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@izzythepush,

Bereft of a clue you always have been.

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@Olivier5,

Are you happy now? Do you want a pokemon sticker or something?

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@izzythepush,

More importantly, do you ever come clean when you say something evidently false? Or do you prefer to hide and snide?

Nimh proved on this very thread that the UK Labor Party defines itself as "democratic socialists". Stop spreading lies. Stop behaving like another Trumpian asshole pulling his own reality out of his own rear end. Truth matters to some.

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@Olivier5,

I've got Nimh on ignore.

I don't know what the UK Labor party is. I'm a member of the Labour Party.

So much for truth mattering. You can't even get the name right.

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@izzythepush,

If you're a member of the LaboUr Party, then it follows you are a democratic socialist, since the Labour Party Rule Book 2018 states:

Quote:

Clause IV. Aims and values

1. The Labour Party is a democratic socialist Party. [...]

https://skwawkbox.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Labour-Party-2018-Rule-Book.pdf

Now go ahead and find a typo.

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@Olivier5,

It's a shame that they have to do that, it really is. The right wing press is out to get Corbyn, there's a story doing the rounds that he was a agent for Czech intelligence during the Cold War. It's a compromise, the truth is that Labour is a broad church consisting of both Social Democrats and Socialists. I doubt either side of the party is happy with the term, but that's the nature of compromise. I've never known of any individual defining themselves as a Democratic Socialist outside America.

But if it will shut you up I'll concede the point. I'm wrong, you're right, but I'd never define myself as such.

The Labour Party is a proper noun, therefore there's only one way of spelling it. Like Pearl Harbor, we may spell harbour with a u, but not Pearl Harbor.

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@Olivier5,

Btw, thank you for providing the link and not insisting I read Nimh's posts.

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@izzythepush,

It takes more than that to shut me up, but thanks for admitting your error all the same. It's the first time I ever see you do that.

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@izzythepush,

Nimh is a good poster and you should read her (his?) posts.

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@Olivier5,

Nimh copied and pasted one of Oralloy's posts and insisted I answer it. That's why I put him on ignore. I don't read Oralloy and resent being forced to do so.

I never had a problem with Nimh's posts prior to that, but I won't let anyone tell me what to do.

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@Olivier5,

It's not the first time, I get things wrong all the time.

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@izzythepush,

Oh i know that. You just rarely admit it when it happens.

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@Olivier5,

I think we're entering pot and kettle territory.

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@izzythepush,

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I've never known of any individual defining themselves as a Democratic Socialist outside America.

Might have been interesting, then, for a Labour Party member like Izzy to see those quotes I posted above from Neil Kinnock, Denis Healey, Michael Foot, and Nye Bevan, praising "democratic socialism". Or the video of Olof Palme saying "I am a democratic socialist". Or the quote of Jean-Luc Melenchon declaring "we are democratic socialism". Or the mention of the German Party for Democratic Socialism. Easy to throw in more: here's a prominent MP from Izzy's party, Clive Lewis: "I am a democratic socialist". Here's Owen Smith, who ran against Corbyn for the Labour Party leadership and pulled in 41% of the party member vote: "I’ve always been a democratic socialist and I always will be." Here's socialist author and commentator Owen Jones, defending the "democratic socialist Labour party members". Here's the late political scientist (and adviser to Blair and Brown's Labour governments) Sir Bernard Crick, writing "I am a democratic socialist". Et cetera, ad infinitum. But alas. Smile

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@izzythepush,

Quote:

Nimh copied and pasted one of Oralloy's posts and insisted I answer it. That's why I put him on ignore. I don't read Oralloy and resent being forced to do so.

I never had a problem with Nimh's posts prior to that, but I won't let anyone tell me what to do.

Your posts are often childish, izzy, but this one takes the cake! Why don't you simply boy up and admit you were wrong?

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@izzythepush,

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@Olivier5,
I think we're entering pot and kettle territory.

You got something right, izzy.

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@nimh,

nimh wrote:

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I've never known of any individual defining themselves as a Democratic Socialist outside America.

Might have been interesting, then, for a Labour Party member like Izzy to see those quotes I posted above from Neil Kinnock, Denis Healey, Michael Foot, and Nye Bevan, praising "democratic socialism". Or the video of Olof Palme saying "I am a democratic socialist". Or the quote of Jean-Luc Melenchon declaring "we are democratic socialism". Or the mention of the German Party for Democratic Socialism. Easy to throw in more: here's a prominent MP from Izzy's party, Clive Lewis: "I am a democratic socialist". Here's Owen Smith, who ran against Corbyn for the Labour Party leadership and pulled in 41% of the party member vote: "I’ve always been a democratic socialist and I always will be." Here's socialist author and commentator Owen Jones, defending the "democratic socialist Labour party members". Here's the late political scientist (and adviser to Blair and Brown's Labour governments) Sir Bernard Crick, writing "I am a democratic socialist". Et cetera, ad infinitum. But alas.

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