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Why I left the Democratic Party

 
 
oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 11 Feb, 2018 07:31 pm
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:
One of my gravest concerns is what appears to be a plan to make nuclear weapons conventional in our wars in the immediate future.

I suspect that you are being misled by leftists who want America to be defeated and conquered.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 11 Feb, 2018 07:32 pm
@camlok,
camlok wrote:
Don't you think that it is a tad excessive for a kind, benevolent country to be at war for 93% of its years in existence?

We're the global policeman. It's our job to confront the global bad guys.
camlok
 
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Reply Sun 11 Feb, 2018 09:16 pm
@oralloy,
Another lie. The rogue US nation is, has been a rogue cop, murdering tens of millions just to steal their wealth.

Just think how deeply evil these US governments are. Every US prez has been a Class A war criminal/ arch terrorist.

And now the mother of all false flags, the attacks on WTC, blamed upon nonexistent Arab hijackers and OBL who had nothing at all to do with it.

Maybe it was Tuvulu terrorists. I think they know how to make nanothermite out of coconut shells.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 12 Feb, 2018 12:05 pm
@oralloy,
I'm surprised you continue to have a "conversation" with this pro-communist wanna be.

I've always wondered whether he has posters or framed photo's of Stalin, Marx and Mao on his basement walls. I'm pretty sure he has a Che shirt in a different color for each day of the week.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 12 Feb, 2018 12:05 pm
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/11/democratic-primaries-2018-progressives-402096

Quote:

Progressive insurgents are launching challenges to Democratic members of Congress in some of the country’s bluest districts, sparked by deep frustration with the party establishment and anti-Trump anger.

Most of the challengers are long shots at the moment. But some are putting a scare into entrenched incumbents, thanks to their muscular fundraising and a message of liberal disaffection on issues including Wall Street, criminal justice reform and single-payer health care.


Six veteran incumbents already face energetic primary challenges from younger candidates in New York and Massachusetts. In Illinois, two Chicago-based members are being targeted from the left.

“I think Donald Trump getting elected president is part of it — the old institutional political knowledge we had about the way things works clearly just doesn’t work. And now people are knocking down the door,” said Bill Hyers, a political consultant and campaign strategist for New York Mayor Bill de Blasio and Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand. “There’s a new energy and excitement out there in a new way, and it's palpable.”


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"Something big is stirring in American politics, and it’s a more than a moment, it’s a movement. Massachusetts is the original ‘old boys' club,’” said Lee. “Voters are fed up with the status quo and see a vote for a woman candidate as a vote to shake up the system in a sea of male, mostly white, politicians.”
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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 12 Feb, 2018 12:16 pm
@Baldimo,
Baldimo wrote:
I'm surprised you continue to have a "conversation" with this pro-communist wanna be.

That's generally why I'm here: to have intelligent conversations with people who disagree with me.

I'm not going to bother with any of the 9/11 gibberish. But I actually like defending American military actions against the bad guys.
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camlok
 
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Reply Mon 12 Feb, 2018 07:24 pm
@Baldimo,
As usual, Baldimo, you are totally out to lunch. You couldn't be more wrong, until, likely, your next post.

It's folks like you who are the supporters of the deeply evil war criminals/terrorists.

You've always been highly supportive of US governments slaughtering others but now you seem to be totally fine with your governments murdering their own.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 12 Feb, 2018 10:59 pm
Our military has gotten out of control. Instead of more build up and more invasions, we need to wrap up these crazy and useless wars. It's a worn argument, but, the longer we attack and kill, the more we radicalize huge swaths of population. The terrorists they seek to kill are America's own creation. If we just had a statesman president, instead of a gooney bird -
Lash
 
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Reply Mon 12 Feb, 2018 11:51 pm
It’s happening.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/11/democratic-primaries-2018-progressives-402096

I feel satisfied tonight. Hope it continues.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 13 Feb, 2018 01:32 am
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:
Our military has gotten out of control.

Not to be blunt, but no it hasn't.


edgarblythe wrote:
Instead of more build up and more invasions, we need to wrap up these crazy and useless wars.

Protecting ourselves from those who seek to harm us is neither crazy nor useless.


edgarblythe wrote:
It's a worn argument, but, the longer we attack and kill, the more we radicalize huge swaths of population.

If people are driven to kill us because we dare to defend ourselves from their aggression, the answer is to kill them first.


edgarblythe wrote:
The terrorists they seek to kill are America's own creation.

No. The terrorists are responsible for their own decisions to commit horrendous atrocities.


edgarblythe wrote:
If we just had a statesman president, instead of a gooney bird -

Is statesman a euphemism for someone who will leave us defenseless to being massacred and enslaved?
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Tue 13 Feb, 2018 06:24 am
@oralloy,
You see, most of what you wrote is just the opposite of reality. We ran roughshod over those peoples until they finally had enough. They are protecting themselves from us. Iraq is just the tip of the iceberg.
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 13 Feb, 2018 01:11 pm
@edgarblythe,
Maybe if making them have a moderate government instead of being governed by radical terrorists is running roughshod over them.

In that case, it is little different from the police running roughshod over bank robbers.

If bank robbers are tired of the police interfering with their robberies and start killing police officers, we don't have sympathy for the bank robbers.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Tue 13 Feb, 2018 01:36 pm
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camlok
 
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Reply Tue 13 Feb, 2018 03:09 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
Protecting ourselves from those who seek to harm us is neither crazy nor useless.


It is totally crazy and infinitely useless, oralloy, and you know full well it is. Why do you keep with the stark delusion?

There were no Arab hijackers. You know this too. The plane that they allegedly hijacked to fly into WTC2 wasn't the plane that the USGOCT said it was.

Sadly, for the real perpetrators of 911, the elements within the US government that planted the nanothermite in WTCs 1 & 2, and WTC7, which anyone with a brain knows Arab hijackers could never do, a jet engine flew out of the north face of WTC2 and landed on Murray Street.

That engine was from a 747 and the plane that the US government says hit WTC2 was UA175, a 767-222, which never used the engine found on Murray Street.

Just 4:38 of your time to confirm what you all already know. There were no Arab hijackers. Muslim terrorists did not attack the USA and WTC on September 11, 2001.

The plane was not UA175 ergo, there were no Arab hijackers ergo, the USGOCT is totally false.

Murray Street Engine - Scene from 9/11: IDENTIFY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhqZQqQdjyk
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revelette1
 
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Reply Wed 14 Feb, 2018 09:41 am
The following is old in today's standard, written on 3/8/18, yet, it sums up the whole reason why it was so devastating when the left split after the primaries of 16' and chose to go with a third party or chose to not vote. I know Hillary was hard for a lot of you stomach after the primaries, but, the long term affect should have made it clear there were more important issues. They should have considered the long term affect of having so many vacancies in our courts. Established (experienced)Republicans did, which is why they voted for Trump.

Inside Trump's Plan to Dramatically Reshape U.S. Courts (TIME Magazine)

Quote:
A few days after Donald Trump was elected President in November 2016, Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell placed a call to incoming White House counsel Don McGahn. McConnell knew Trump had a chance to change the ideological makeup of the federal court system in a way not seen since the Reagan era, but only if McConnell and McGahn could get him to tighten up a disorderly political operation, and fast. “I said, Don, we’ve got an opportunity here to have a huge long-term impact on the country,” McConnell recalls, sitting in a cushioned chair in his Capitol office one day last month. He made McGahn a promise to move qualified judges through the Senate confirmation process as quickly as the White House could send them.


Say whatever else, but Trump has been delivering on sending Judges who are well qualified but conservative and rule that way.

When mid-terms gets here we can't let our divisions divide us again and give the government away again to folks who fundamentally disagree with the government except for wars and defense and things like that and so they sabotage it any way they can.

So far on the special elections the ones who have been winning have not been on the far left, but have been on the moderate side of democrats though that has been in conservative states. I just wish we could unite the far left and moderate together by coming to some sort of compromise so as to do well at mid-terms.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Wed 14 Feb, 2018 11:20 am
@revelette1,
revelette1 wrote:

The following is old in today's standard, written on 3/8/18


2/8/18 Wink
hightor
 
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Reply Wed 14 Feb, 2018 11:39 am
@revelette1,
This will probably be the longest-lasting effect of the election, you know, assuming no thermonuclear war gets started. These judges will be on the bench for decades. And it's why I have so little regard for the Dems who supported Stein and the Sanders voters who sat it out — and are still threatening to abandon the party. Hypocritical evangelicals had no trouble voting for Trump; all they cared about was Roe vs. Wade.
maporsche
 
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Reply Wed 14 Feb, 2018 11:48 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
These judges will be on the bench for decades. And it's why I have so little regard for the Dems who supported Stein and the Sanders voters who sat it out — and are still threatening to abandon the party. Hypocritical evangelicals had no trouble voting for Trump; all they cared about was Roe vs. Wade.


Soooooo little regard.

There will never be a universally loved candidate in America. Never. Suck it up, put your adult pants on, and stop pretending you live in some dreamland.
camlok
 
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Reply Wed 14 Feb, 2018 12:24 pm
@maporsche,
Quote:
and stop pretending you live in some dreamland.


You do all live in a dreamland, maporsche, the largest one ever created by man, with the most extraordinary propaganda mill that keeps you all bending over for more.

People who can't even face reality, can't deal with hard science, can't deal with impossibilities that show, 100%, that USians act like little children.

Do you understand the meaning of 'impossible'?

Do you know that the molten/vaporized WTC steel tells any sane, sentient, thinking adult or child that there were no Arab hijackers?

Is there any nation with a more gullible populace on the planet. No way!!
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camlok
 
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Reply Wed 14 Feb, 2018 12:30 pm
@hightor,
Perpetual whiners!

You "have so little regard for the Dems who supported Stein and the Sanders voters who sat it out".

How much regard do you have for the Dems who sent troops to slaughter Iraqis and Afghans all based on a bunch of incredibly transparent lies?

How much regard do you have for all the people who provided unwavering support for these supreme war crimes?

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