Why I left the Democratic Party

@maporsche,

Maine set for groundbreaking voting experiment on Tuesday

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Here's how it works, according to the Committee for Ranked Choice Voting, which helped campaign for the referendum:

"Ranked choice voting gives you the power to rank candidates from your favorite to your least favorite. On Election Night, all the ballots are counted for voters' first choices. If one candidate receives an outright majority, he or she wins. If no candidate receives a majority, the candidate with the fewest first choices is eliminated and voters who liked that candidate the best have their ballots instantly counted for their second choice. This process repeats and last-place candidates lose until one candidate reaches a majority and wins. Your vote counts for your second choice only if your first choice has been eliminated."

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/11/politics/maine-primaries-ranked-choice-voting/index.html

Thank you maporsche for mentioning this new groundbreaking voting system.
Also thank you revelette1 for providing the link to this story.

I Love This Voting System.
I Really Really Really Love This Voting System.
I Wish This Voting System Was In Every Local, State, National, and Presidential Election. I wish this System Was Used in Every Primary and Every General Election.

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@Real Music,

You are allowed to believe what you wish. Doesn't alter the facts.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

I don't even understand why the GOP can win any seat when their goal is to take away social security and Medicare to give bigger tax cuts to the rich.

For starters, because your characterization of Republican goals is rank demagogy.

But mainly because we need Trump as our president in order to prevent Democrats from violating the Second Amendment.

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@cicerone imposter,

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I don't even understand why the GOP can win any seat when their goal is to take away social security and Medicare to give bigger tax cuts to the rich.

Gerrymandering

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@Real Music,

From Politifact (which I trust): For Medicaid, Republican-proposed cuts could lead to specific individuals losing their coverage. That was the case with GOP proposals to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act. Under these prior proposals, other beneficiaries might have experienced cutbacks in their Medicaid coverage. But the program itself wouldn’t have been taken away.

So, is that supposed to be okay? When they talk about "cutbacks," what do they mean? I'm still asking the question: Is that okay?

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@cicerone imposter,

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From Politifact (which I trust): For Medicaid, Republican-proposed cuts could lead to specific individuals losing their coverage. That was the case with GOP proposals to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act. Under these prior proposals, other beneficiaries might have experienced cutbacks in their Medicaid coverage. But the program itself wouldn’t have been taken away.

So, is that supposed to be okay? When they talk about "cutbacks," what do they mean? I'm still asking the question: Is that okay?

Did you misunderstand something I said?
I agree with you.
I agree with everything you are saying.

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@Real Music,

If there's agreement, there's no quibble, right?
To clarify: The GOP proposals were aimed to cut ACA with no replacement. The GOP budget is proposing to cut $54 billion from Medicare. That may already have happened. With those cuts, the GOP wants to give bigger tax cuts to the rich. Trump's tax reform bill did exactly that. The rich benefited over 80% from those cuts. Many middle class and poor who voted for Trump got screwed, and there's a good chance they may reelect Trump. Is stupid curable?

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@Real Music,

If it has to be earned explain how a crook like Trump got the nomination. The only thing I can believe is our candidates are chosen for us by big business and the rich owners of the media.

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@cicerone imposter,

You are saying the same things I've said many times.
And I'm still saying those things.
Are you mistaking me for someone else?
Are you sure this is suppose to be directed at me?
I think you are mistaking me for Oralloy.
I think you meant your post to be directed at him.
Go back and read the previous post.

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@cicerone imposter,

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is stupid cureable

Judging by the last election it is not.

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@RABEL222,

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If it has to be earned explain how a crook like Trump got the nomination. The only thing I can believe is our candidates are chosen for us by big business and the rich owners of the media.

I could care less why the republicans chose a whack job like Trump to be their nominee.
I could care less about the entire republican party for that matter.
I could write a book detailing the many reasons I despise the republican party.
You might want to direct your comment to a republican or a conservative.
I am a true blue democrat.
Although the democratic party is far from being perfect, I fully support and back the democratic party.
Yes, I do want the democratic candidates to go out and earn the nomination of the democratic party.

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@Real Music,

I was once in the same position as you; a diehard democrat. But, I found too many disagreeable people and policies that I didn't agree with, and there were some policies of the republicans that I supported. My only choice was to become an Independent where I could pick and choose the politicians and policies that I liked. I'll probably remain an Independent for the duration.

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@Real Music,

CI does that, he's attributed one of Gungasnake's posts to me before today. I wish he'd be a bit less slap dash.

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@izzythepush,

There is no need to gang up on CI. He has admitted to forgetfulness at times. I only hope I do as well as he when I am his age. I doubt I do, I am 53 and I get forgetful and everything that goes along with it all the time.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

The GOP budget is proposing to cut $54 billion from Medicare.

Says who?

Even if that is true, it would be a tenth of what Obama cut from Medicare.

cicerone imposter wrote:

Many middle class and poor who voted for Trump got screwed, and there's a good chance they may reelect Trump.

Priorities.

The most important thing right now is that Trump is preventing liberals from violating the Second Amendment. Economic issues have to come in second to that.

It would be nice to be able to vote on economic issues. But so long as liberals are dead set on abolishing freedom, the most important thing right now is to preserve our civil rights.

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@revelette1,

I wasn't ganging up on anyone I was letting RM know the score. It would be one thing to have one of yours, Blatham's or Blickers' posts attributed to me, but Gungasnake! I don't want people to think I write that fascist crap.

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@izzythepush,

I understand your concern and ganging up on was overstating. However, I took issue with the "slap dash." But I don't want to go on about it.

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All this outrage over families getting brutally ripped apart. Part of Trump's wall strategy. Think how different it might have been had the democrats used what leverage they could muster before the budget got passed, instead of surrendering it all without a struggle of any sort.

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@edgarblythe,

edgarblythe wrote:

All this outrage over families getting brutally ripped apart. Part of Trump's wall strategy. Think how different it might have been had the democrats used what leverage they could muster before the budget got passed, instead of surrendering it all without a struggle of any sort.

Or if Jill Stein voters had done their part in keeping Trump out of office.

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