Yeh right. You guys scared em all off so we took em in. Theyre harmless enough, just dont get em dancing.
I believe we have like 6 living Shakers today and they are all women. So the furniture craftspeople are all dead. The secrets oof their stains and jointery are being revived by crafts schools.
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tsarstepan
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Thu 9 Nov, 2017 07:59 am
@izzythepush,
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And where are the shakers now?
The already small matriarchal religious group (during their peak years) held onto a very strict celibacy rule. No procreation whatsoever. They proselytized via recruitment.
Shakers were celibate; procreation was forbidden after they joined the society (except for women who were already pregnant at admission). Children were added to their communities through indenture, adoption, or conversion. Occasionally a foundling was anonymously left on a Shaker doorstep.[35] They welcomed all, often taking in orphans and the homeless. For children, Shaker life was structured, safe and predictable, with no shortage of adults who cared about their young charges.[36]
When Shaker youngsters, girls and boys, reached the age of 21, they were free to leave or to remain with the Shakers. Unwilling to remain celibate, many chose to leave; today there are thousands of descendants of Shaker-raised seceders.
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For an atheist you sure put a lot of faith in religious extremists.
Never heard anyone call them extremists. If they are? They're one of the tamest extremists groups in the history of all things religion.
Part of my fondness for the group comes from watching the lovely Ken Burns' documentary: The Shakers: Hands to Work, Hearts to God (1984) as well as my father's deep appreciation for their woodwork and furniture.
Izzy has some twisted worldview that whatever happened in Britain was "good" so to persecute and stone Shakers to death, forceably driving them out of the nation, and forcing emigration to th US was "civilized " since it was England practicing "religious cleansing".
Part of my fondness for the group comes from watching the lovely Ken Burns' documentary: The Shakers: Hands to Work, Hearts to God (1984) as well as my father's deep appreciation for their woodwork and furniture.
I think that was the documentary I saw once. I'll have to check it out again.
Some Buddhist Monks can be almost as creepy as clowns. Always smiling. Always secretly wanting to eat your soul!
As an asside (deliberately misspelled), can we take this touchy subject out of the Smile Today thread into its own specific thread? Things are getting too edgy and crotchety for this all things love heartwarming thread.
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farmerman
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Thu 9 Nov, 2017 09:26 am
@izzythepush,
??? You are so fuckin predictable that your response really fits this thread. You hold a grudge because Ive noted your country's decided lack of a cuisine and your (gag) bacon.
The fact is the Shakers didnt go about "shanghaiing" liitle children or candidates and forcing a celibate life on them. If you'd take time to read anything about them, you see that the Shakers had folks coming into and leaving their order at all times. They were not anything considered extremist than were many other religions.
Indeed, They were a millenialist religion so they had a "mission", but they didnt engage in torture or stoning non-believers ,nor did they distribute smallpox laced blankets in order to decimate Native tribes).
I just saw your post and it brought back memories. The author of "Shaker your Plate" a cookbook compiled by sister Francis Carr of Sabbathday was given to my wife as a"Spiritual Gift" for some work she did for the Shakers community. Sister Frncis signed it , and this was just few months before she died . These people were just as nice as they appeared on theKen Burns feature. It was Sister Francis who said that :"She didnt want to be remembered as a cabinet or a table"
They really make me smile.
I found out that there are a few NEW shaker converts who are men who are trying to , by dedication, to sustain and maintain the shops and buildings at Sabbathday and New Lebanon.
