@nimh,
I am sorry that you do not understand yet, Nimh. Your critique concerning my "over the top" comments shows that you do not comprehend the nature of the discussion on these threads.
At present, we have a President who will probably bankrupt the USA and may yet, because of his pusillanimity, cause us to be attacked yet again by the fringe fanatic Muslims.
I do not know whether you realize that such danger calls for a full bore attack with all guns firing.
You are probably safe in Budpest. Who would bomb such a place?
But, New York may yet be a target.
Note:
Four men have been arrested for plotting what the FBI claims is a homegrown U.S. terror plot.
The suspects are accused of planning bomb and missile attacks in New York to punish America for killing Muslims in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
It is alleged that they intended to blow up two synagogues while simultaneously shooting a military plane out of the sky with a Stinger missile, creating 'a fireball that would make the country gasp', according to one police officer.
Accused: James Cromitie, pictured with FBI officers in New York last night, is said to have wanted to do 'something to America' in revenge for U.S. killings of Muslims in Afghanistan
There are believed to have been planning to attack military planes at a National Guard airbase in Newburgh, about 60 miles north of New York City.
But the plot was foiled by a perfectly executed FBI sting.
The Stinger missile and the plastic explosives packed into their car bombs were all fakes supplied by undercover FBI agents posing as Al Qaeda-backed militants.
Police arrested the suspects in the Bronx area of New York on Wednesday night. They are thought to have converted to Islam while serving prison sentences for unrelated crimes.
James Cromitie, David Williams, Onta Williams and Laguerre Payen, all of Newburgh, about 60 miles north of Manhattan, were charged yesterday with conspiracy to use weapons of mass destruction and conspiracy to acquire and use anti-aircraft missiles.
Each charge carries a maximum penalty of life imprisonment.
'Target': The Jewish Riverdale Temple in the Bronx, New York, was to have been attacked with a car packed with plastic explosives, U.S. officials say
At least three of the men are U.S. citizens.
One, of Afghan descent, was Muslim-born while the other three converted in prison, officials said, adding that some were of Arabic descent and one is of Haitian descent.
Peter King, the senior Republican on the House of Representatives Homeland Security Committee, said: 'Tonight was the night the attacks were being carried out.
'This was a long, well-planned investigation, and it shows how real the threat is from homegrown terrorists.'
New York police commissioner Raymond Kelly said the men had intended to drive back to Newburgh from New York last night and carry out their plan to shoot down aircraft, at the same time setting off the car bombs outside the Jewish centre and synagogue using detonators in mobile phones.
Cromitie - also known as Abdul Rahman - is said to have complained in June last year that U.S. forces were killing Muslims in Afghanistan, where his parents had lived, and in Pakistan.
David Williams and, right, Onta Williams are said to have plotted with Cromitie and a fourth suspect, Laguerre Payen, to fire Stinger missiles at military jets
Cromitie, of Newburgh, was interested in doing 'something to America' and would go to 'paradise' if he died a martyr, he is alleged to have told a contact - who was actually an informant working under the supervision of the U.S. intelligence agencies.
In July, officials say, Cromitie told the informant he wanted to join Pakistan-based terror group Jaish-e-Mohammed to 'do jihad'.
In October the informant is said to have begun meeting the four at a house in Newburgh that had been secretly rigged with video and audio recording devices.
In November, on a trip to a meeting of the Muslim Alliance of North America in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Cromitie is said to have declared that 'the best target was hit already' - referring to the World Trade Center, destroyed in the September 11 attacks of 2001 - and to have added: 'I hate those motherf ******s, those f****** Jewish bastards ... I would like to get a synagogue.'
'Target': Stewart International Airport in Newburgh, the suspects' home town
Blowing one up would be 'a piece of cake', he is alleged to have said.
Last month the suspects allegedly selected the Bronx's Riverdale Temple and the nearby Riverdale Jewish Centre as targets for an attack with C-4 plastic explosives.
They are also reported to have carried out surveillance of military planes at the New York Air National Guard base at Newburgh's Stewart International Airport.
The airfield is used by both the New York Air National Guard and the U.S. Air Force. Aircraft based there are used to fly supplies and personnel to American forces in Iraq and Afghanistan - and it is one of these cargo planes that the four men hoped to blast from the sky, officials say.
The charges say that on April 28 Onta Williams told the informant the U.S. military 'are killing Muslim brothers and sisters in Muslim countries so, if we kill them here ... it is equal', while David Williams - also called Daoud - declared 'it does not matter' if Jews were killed in the attack.
On alert: New York police officers guard the Riverdale Jewish Centre in the Bronx after the arrest of the suspected plotters
This month the four are said to have bought an arsenal including improvised explosive devices containing what they thought were C-4 plastic explosives and a surface-to-air guided missile - provided by the FBI and incapable of being fired.
The bombs had been made by FBI technicians,' said Police Commissioner Kelly. 'They were totally inert.'
The men allegedly planted one of the devices in a car boot outside the synagogue, where one remained as a lookout while the other three drove on to the Jewish centre, six city blocks away, where they planted two further devices in the back seat of a car.
But at about 9pm an 18-wheel police vehicle blocked the suspects' black 4x4 at 237th Street and Riverdale Avenue, the Bronx. Officers smashed the darkened windows of the 4x4 and arrested the men.
Jonathan Rosenblatt, senior rabbi at the Orthodox Jewish Centre, said he was told by police last night that his synagogue was a target along with the Reform synagogue.
His response was 'shock, surprise - a sense of disbelief that something which is supposed to belong to the world of front pages and the evening news had invaded the quiet world of our synagogue', he said.
The plot, if proven, would have been the third against the Riverdale synagogues in the past decade.
New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg said: 'While the bombs these terrorists attempted to plant tonight were - unbeknownst to them - fake, this latest attempt to attack our freedoms shows that the homeland security threats against New York City are sadly all too real.'
New York Senator Charles Schumer said if there can be any good news out of this case it's that 'the group was relatively unsophisticated, and penetrated early.
