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The new Democratic party. What will it look like?

 
 
Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2016 06:34 pm
The new Democratic Party? What will it look like? What do you think about us talking about it now?

Do any Democrats like Bernie? Could we show the world what ethical politicians look like by starting debates with Bernie Sanders against Jill stein? I personally think it would look close to Jesus debating himself. What do you think?
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Lash
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2016 06:47 pm
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:

The new Democratic Party? What will it look like? What do you think about us talking about it now?

Do any Democrats like Bernie? Could we show the world what ethical politicians look like by starting debates with Bernie Sanders against Jill stein? I personally think it would look close to Jesus debating himself. What do you think?

I've seen groups on Twitter attempting to strengthen the Democrat Socialist party. I know a lot of people who've left the Dems in the #DemExit. They vow never to return; some voted Green, some for Trump in protest against the DNC.

I'm interested to see what the Dem party winds up looking like. I think Hillary attracted some Trump-weary conservatives to the Dem rolls... Quite interesting.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2016 07:03 pm
@Lash,
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I'm interested to see what the Dem party winds up looking like. I think Hillary attracted some Trump-weary conservatives to the Dem rolls... Quite interesting.


I am not sure if it is repairable but it is a well known party that may or may not be able to be over taken by true progressives who care about all people.
Lash
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2016 07:11 pm
@reasoning logic,
I hear you, but the Dem brand is probably ruined for the generation of progressives who experienced the 2016 cycle.
Krumple
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2016 07:14 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

I hear you, but the Dem brand is probably ruined for the generation of progressives who experienced the 2016 cycle.


Memory is short and in 4 years we will have a new croud of 18-20 year olds who will be completely unaware of the DNC debacle.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2016 07:15 pm
@Lash,
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I know a lot of people who've left the Dems in the #DemExit. They vow never to return; some voted Green,


I voted Jill myself. I think Bernie was a man of his word and the DNC who are attorneys made him agree to support the DNC primary nominee, he thought he had to support the evil result. They may have even paid him for his support not that I would not have taken the money myself.

I think he was bamboozled being the naïve man he is. Why do I think this? Because I too am a naïve man who is slow to learn at times.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2016 07:44 pm
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2016 08:00 pm
I would like to see Bernie and Jill be the next president and vice president and I don't really care which one is the president.
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2016 08:01 pm
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Lash
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2016 08:06 pm
@reasoning logic,
Thanks for this. Greenwald is the last journalist I trust. Talking about the last lawmaker I trust.
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Lash
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2016 08:08 pm
@reasoning logic,
I think falling in line with the ethical rules of the process controlled his choices.
Lash
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2016 08:09 pm
@Krumple,
So, they wouldn't be a part of the generation who experienced the 2016 cycle...
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2016 08:29 pm
@Lash,
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I think falling in line with the ethical rules of the process controlled his choices.


Not all rules are ethical even though they may seem so at times.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2016 11:08 pm

The Democratic Party is going to take a hard turn to the left over the next 20 years, but no one will notice because the Republicans will hold the White House for the entire time.

After their 20 years in the wilderness is complete, Democrats will begin to think about repudiating extremist liberalism, once they do so and nominate a "Trump lite" (sort of like Bill Clinton was a "Reagan lite") the voters will begin electing them to the White House again.

The 2013 gun control debacle will go down in history as the event that destroyed liberalism forever.
farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 11 Nov, 2016 05:14 am
@oralloy,
naah. You make too much of the hold of guns on people. Pa was an energizing of the white financially disaffected who didnt feel the recovery yet.
Trump's victory in Pa was brilliantly engineered by two guys who shall probably be rewarded (or not, after Trump realizes what hes just done
to himself) .

Ya cant tell an underemployed coal miner that his fuel should be phased out, (even though its going to be a fact driven by MARKET FACTS not regulations). His lines were effective but mostly lies.
Hillry hqd no way of presenting that case and Trump had nothing to do but to sttand anti Hillary.

In-state college prof pundits mostly agreed that Hillary was "Handing Pa to Trump" back in late summer. Everyone said ,"Thatll never happen."

Well, everyone will listen more closely to some of these local guys in each state (I assume that Michigan had a similar group of people who recognized the possibility of a rising populist uprising).

Trumps a salesman, Lets see if he can become an engineer and a planner.

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Lash
 
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Reply Fri 11 Nov, 2016 06:27 am
The first test for the Democrat party is boiling up right now.

Who do they pick for DNC leadership to replace the two recent disgraced women who cheated Sanders out of the nomination?? Another colluding cheater or a relatively clean, perhaps Bernie-suggested member?

The voters who left them on the 8th are watching. Do they remain dirty and establishment or do they evolve?
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Brand X
 
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Reply Fri 11 Nov, 2016 07:20 am
Elizabeth Warren is acting like the DNC leader, and she's definitely the wet dream of the left. She is going to be the voice of the crushed, the one that will be a thorn in Trump's administration.
Lash
 
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Reply Fri 11 Nov, 2016 07:25 am
@Brand X,
She's (Warren) definitely spoken rationally and in conciliatory language. I don't think the Dems would waste her at the helm of the DNC, but she is the de facto leader of the party, I agree. I would say Bernie is, but there's that pesky fact that he's not a straight Dem.

Still, in these days, I'm not sure if that matters. Fascinating to watch.
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Brand X
 
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Reply Fri 11 Nov, 2016 07:30 am
I just want to know who's going to be president of California after Calexit.

Remember all the guff Texas had to take for threatening secession?

Yo, irony.
Lash
 
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Reply Fri 11 Nov, 2016 07:44 am
@Brand X,
A take-down / breakdown of the DNC's loss by progressive activist Shaun King.

http://linkis.com/www.nydailynews.com/a6ezS

Re Texas / Cali -- instances of hypocrisy like that emphasize media bias pretty clearly
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