Rising fascism in the US

Resisting the urge to swear....

It's high time Michigan invaded Ohio and took Toledo back from them.

Yes, it was the dipshit surveyors who deliberately tampered with the line starting back in Indiana (Faber D, The Toledo War: The First Michigan-Ohio Rivalry). That, however, does not eliminate the Clinton mafia links, because they are also tied to the Asian Triads and drug trafficking. The addresses we posted, for example, are in the same township: see www. for Bedford Heroin Rally. The important link to British MI5 and MI6 for the Temperance, Michigan addresses links precisely to Oliver Springs, Tennessee. Oliver Springs, Tennessee familial DNA (is the same [italics]) DNA that lived in Mena, Arkansas.

We must go back to verify the Mena, Arkansas link to Oliver Springs: it may not be the same DNA but it is quite the same familial DNA. Also, it is absolutely certain that the addresses in Temperance link the Rector-Boteler-Amery DNA line at Oliver Springs, Tn. Amery is the MI6 DNA link.

Hubaker DNA at the Temperance, Michigan addresses link Rector DNA to the same addresses, which are also the links to William Barclay "Bat" Masterson.

Park Wayne Masterson
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=65924489

University denies appearance by white nationalist Richard Spencer

Ohio State University has denied a request to rent space for an appearance by white nationalist Richard Spencer, citing risks to public safety.

An attorney representing Ohio State said in a letter sent Friday that the university consulted with law enforcement and considered Spencer's appearance at the University of Florida earlier in the week before deciding to turn down the request from Cameron Padgett, a Georgia university student organizing a tour of campuses by Spencer.

It's not problematic to keep Spencer's name on this thread. As the reader-prisoner can see, badger2 has concentrated on two threads here at able2know: Both can and will address the concept of fascism. We first direct the prisoners to Unexplained Mysteries website, where they can view the counterpart to the EPA thread at this website. Badger 2's messages were removed from the thread, which is the first sign of fascism operating at UM. We'll also note that the scrubbing of posts occurs (between [italics]) two female posters. Thus, suggested reading is Victoria de Grazia, How Fascism Ruled Women.

If one posts at an on-line bulletin board, one is on private property. If one attempts to pump out one's bilge in their threads, the management thereof is justified ethically and legally in removing that drivel, and banning one from further participation. Private venues are not subject to the guarantee of free speech written into the first amendment. If one were to go into a coffee shop noted for their wide-ranging discussions, and begin ranting and shouting, the management would be both ethically and legally justified in ejecting the odious would-be patron, and banning one from entering again. Free speech rights are guaranteed in public places, not on private property.

Apparently, it is necessary to point out that fascism can only "rise" when it is imposed by the party in power. It entails not only the suppression of free speech, but also the suppression of political opposition, fanatical nationalism, control of the means of production either through direct ownership or a close relationship with capitalists--among other attributes. Ejecting a loud-mouth trouble-maker from private property does not constitute fascism. It just displays good sense.

On the contrary, screenal space itself is the preaccomplished fascism of the removal of the third dimension, and if one accepts otherwise, everything that follows makes perfectly good sense. Setankitten is not only faced with the double-bind that contradicts his logic, S. is faced with the fact that education continues on in Others, and is why Stupidity always gets precisely the reality it deserves.

Absolute babble . . . which is no surprise.

This is awfully subjective.

There was recently a Deli Owner that decided that speaking Spanish in his establishment was objectionable. He banned it. There is no legal difference between Setanta's example and banning a feminist, or a civil rights activist, or someone who doesn't salute the flag. The law offers equal protection.

The problem with these discussions is that they assume an ideological point of view. In a diverse, democratic society, things aren't always so easy. We have multiple points of view and people who disagree with Setanta's world view have the same rights that he has.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/blogs-trending-41042266

Germany, closing in on global free speech.

Excerpt:
who is worried?

Opposition has come from a wide range of groups and politicians on both the left and right - and Facebook has also made its disagreement with the law clear.

The United Nations has also weighed in. David Kaye, the UN's Special Rapporteur on Freedom of Expression, has written to the German government to warn about the potential consequences of the law.

"With these 24 hour and seven day deadlines - if you are a company you are going to want avoid fines and bad public branding of your platform," he says. "If there is a complaint about a post you are just going to take it down. What is in it for you to leave it up? I think the result is likely to be greater censorship."

The group Reporters without Borders says the German law has already inspired a "draconian" new online media law in Russia.

Image copyright FACEBOOK A photo showing the famous selfie and fake wanted posters featuring Anas Modamani. False allegations made against Modamani are still circulating on social media.
Image caption Anas Modamani has been falsely linked to terror attacks in posts on social media.
But there are voices in Germany who are in favour of the law and who argue that making social networks more responsible for hate speech and illegal content on their platforms is a good thing.

Anas Modamani is a refugee from Syria who now lives in Berlin. In August 2015 he was catapulted to notoriety for taking a selfie with Angela Merkel while she was visiting a migrant shelter.

Really long read, but some may appreciate it.

http://www.nyulawreview.org/sites/default/files/pdf/NYULawReview-74-3-McGuire.pdf

Throwing someone out of your coffee shop for ranting and shouting is not at all the same as banning people for speaking Spanish. Some people around here lack basic reasoning skills. The two are not analogous.

Once again, fascism cannot occur unless and until a party with such aspirations takes majority power in the government of the nation in question.

Another take on the definition of fascism.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/510668/

A part:

Fascism was No. 3 last year, between socialism and racism, which is just where fascism began in the 1920s. Now, many political commentators, especially on the left, detect a fascist moment in the Western democracies. But is fascism an accurate heuristic for the populist movements in the United States and Europe that have arisen in recent years, or is invoking the term just a kneejerk way of condemning political opponents? And if it’s inaccurate, might the word still represent a useful case study on the debased value of political language?


The problem, as they might say at Merriam-Webster, is in the definition. Scholars of fascism do not agree on what fascism means; nor, for that matter, do fascist scholars. The difficulty is twofold, and concerns both origins and actions.

Fascism originated in 1920s Europe, mostly among the radical collectivists of the left. But it developed by synthesizing command economics with the racism and nationalism of the radical collectivists of the right. Historians now discount the once-popular Marxist interpretation that fascism was the child of capitalism and imperialism. But they are not unanimous about whether the rivalry of fascism and communism was a sibling rivalry. Like the communists, the fascists were radically unprincipled opportunists, contemptuous of democratic norms. They sought to overthrow the right-left format of democratic politics, and their ideology combined elements of both.

The challenge is whether these "legal and ethical" rights to ban expression apply to ideologies you agree with (such as feminism) or only to ideologies with which you disagree.

Not all store owners share your ideological beliefs. The question is whether the standards you are suggesting are principle or partisanship.

Able2know is a place where the private owners have given a wide latitude to express a number of different and sometimes conflicting opinions. There are other websites that are far more restrictive. I like the freedom.

You're a complete ignoramus compared to Setanta. Go find a different website that fits your juvenile interests.

Wouldn't you say that the Ku Klux Klan, the so-called "Christian Identity" movement, the John Birch Society, and the other white supremacist groups originated on the political right, not on the political left? Incidentally, isn't it also true that Holocaust deniers come from the political right?

(For the record, I'm neither a progressive/liberal nor a conservative. I've given up on politics.)

Yes, that’s what I’ve always thought.

A-Okay.

That's what I thought you'd say. No argument, of course.

I had other people in mind.

This place doesn't allow unlimited free speech, and often censors pretty inocuous stuff.

There once was a great thread on scifi and fantasy illustrations where Farmer, Set and I were posting, among others. I discovered a few interesting artists there. It was deleted, I assume because a few of the pictured ladies were scantily clad...

I was once banned for saying to oral: "you're a liar". I decide to ban a2k for a few months in retaliation. They need posters as much as posters need them. It's a transaction, an exchange, after all.